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is there such things as aliens?
Category: Science > Astronomy Asked by: stevecai-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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10 Aug 2004 00:03 PDT
Expires: 09 Sep 2004 00:03 PDT Question ID: 385748 |
is there such things as aliens? |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: iang-ga on 10 Aug 2004 01:00 PDT |
People have used the principle of mediocrity, the principle of plenitude and the principle of uniformity to show that there *should* be life on other planets, but that's a long way from saying there *is* life there. SETI searches still haven't found anything (though the "Wow event" is a high point) and optical searches of extra-solar planets aren't yet capable of telling us much. Ian G. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: pugwashjw-ga on 10 Aug 2004 01:51 PDT |
From the point of view of the Bible, No. The Bible states God made the heavens and the earth. The heavens are ALL the stars, not just the one we can see. No one knows the limit of the universe, and maybe never will. He made the earth for man "to be inhabited", and did not make it..."simply for nopthing...Isaiah 45;18. Maybe we are at the bottom rung of the ladder to the stars. To get there, because of the distances involved, we would have to live forever. And that will happen when God does away with death...Revelation 21;4...."aand death will; be no more... |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: daytrader76-ga on 10 Aug 2004 08:10 PDT |
Are there aliens somewhere? Are there aliens here? Those are two very different questions. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: techtor-ga on 10 Aug 2004 08:32 PDT |
It's still a possibility and that's what scientists and other people have been wanting to find out for years. Hence all the probes and satellites sent out in space to view the stars and peek into other worlds. In my opinion, it is likely that life may exist on other planets, though it is not sure that the life found will be intelligent. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: purkinje-ga on 10 Aug 2004 09:10 PDT |
We ARE aliens, and somewhere out there someone is asking if we exist. Ha ha. |
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From: purkinje-ga on 10 Aug 2004 09:24 PDT |
I can't believe pugwashjw says that the Bible says there is no life on other planets. First you gave no references showing that the Bible says such a thing. If anything, the Bible doesn't have a say on the matter. In my opinion, the Bible alludes to it. If God is eternal, and if his works are endless, and if he created the stars and the heavens, then it totally makes sense that he has placed life on other planets. Maybe you should save your preaching for an appropriate time... or at least be a litttle more educated about it. |
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From: scubajim-ga on 10 Aug 2004 10:53 PDT |
The whole Bible point of view that pugwashjw is espowising is pretty arrogant to think that out of the whole universe - which is really, really, really big - that we are such an important grain of sand in the grand scheme of things. Also his quotes don'r preclude life on other planets. The quotes don't address the issue at all. (except to say the Earth wasn't made for nothing, which doesn't mean everything else was made for nothing or not. It doesn't address the issue.) |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: kriswrite-ga on 10 Aug 2004 12:10 PDT |
The answer is yes, because any bacteria or microbe found in space that is unknown to the earth is, in fact, alien to it. Kriswrite |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: iang-ga on 10 Aug 2004 13:51 PDT |
>The answer is yes, because any bacteria or microbe found in space that is unknown to the earth is, in fact, alien to it. Have any been found? Ian G. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: purkinje-ga on 10 Aug 2004 14:38 PDT |
But we have never found a microbe in space, or even direct evidence of such. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: kriswrite-ga on 10 Aug 2004 15:33 PDT |
Scientist believe they have evidence of life on Mars: http://www.marsnews.com/focus/life/ Kriswrite |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: purkinje-ga on 10 Aug 2004 16:42 PDT |
I stand corrected-- I guess there is evidence (not compelling-- but persuasive). Thanks. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: iang-ga on 11 Aug 2004 02:06 PDT |
>Scientist believe they have evidence of life on Mars: *Some* do, but the majority opinion, maybe even an overwhelming majority, is that the formations aren't evidence of life. The buzz phrase at the time was "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - so far it hasn't been found. Ian G. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: touf-ga on 12 Aug 2004 10:04 PDT |
We know the universe is rather large. We know this, because we know the CLOSEST star (other than the sun) to us is over 4 light years away. Now, first of all, the Bible does NOT say that God did NOT create other "earths". It says God created this earth, but says nothing specifically about earth being the ONLY planet. Therefore, we cannot use the Bible as a plausible source for either argument. Now, figuring that the unvierse is so large, it is highly unlikely that Earth is the ONLY planet in it that can sustain life. Statistically speaking, there have to be other planets that can (and do) sustain life. If you believe in evolution, then you almost have to believe that evolution (from atoms to proteins to single cell bacteria to etc etc etc) took place SOMEWHERE, anywhere, else in the universe. In some places, evolution took place sooner. In some later. This means that some civilizations are more advanced than earth. Others are less advanced. Have we seen aliens? Let's assume for the moment no. Is there life in this solar system? Probably not. The conditions are unfavorable for any carbon based lifeform anywhere else except for Earth. Are there planets with similar atmospheres/conditions to Earth in this universe? Definitely. Statistically, there have to be. Does that mean there's life on them? Nobody knows, but if you look at it just probability wise, there is a greater chance of aliens existing than for them to not exist. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: guzzi-ga on 28 Aug 2004 17:22 PDT |
There are in the order of ten to the eleven stars in a galaxy, and at least ten to the ten galaxies. Consequently, it is utterly inconceivable that life (aliens) aren?t out there. Best |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: arktik-ga on 08 Apr 2005 19:18 PDT |
Going back to the Bible and religion descussion, bible says that god created everything, including us. Is realigion a belief, and who wrote the Bible? It is a good question. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: arktik-ga on 08 Apr 2005 19:38 PDT |
My opinion, on wether there are aliens in the universe is Yes there are.. It is logical, if god created earth, and the universe is endless, than why us? I mean who knows who or what is out there? Where is the evidence? Do u know any body that had seen god? Now, do u know any body that had seen an alien? There are things that people dont know, and posebly will never know of. I think religion is a belief, a good one. For every question asked about bible and the described miricles that had happened, there is a logical scientific explanation, as far as i know.I think science and religion are relative. And People will always seek the Truth. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: arjun_smart-ga on 12 Jun 2005 11:53 PDT |
there are a million other stars, and they are just too far away, bible is a holy book written by a human being not "GOD". We should consider that. I think aliens do exist, and it is not sure that human-beings need oxygen to live, thee could be other gases that we could survive in. I think there is 99% of chance of having aliens and 1% of not. |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: jjman2010-ga on 03 Jul 2005 14:11 PDT |
In my opinion, yes. If you really think about it, what constitutes an alien? Is it a being with a force field and only comes on the Fourth of July? Or is it simply a single-celled organism living on another planet, one of the seemingly infinite list of planets we have as yet undiscovered. Even though science has proved a singular, omnipotent being cannot exist, we cannot prove beings or creatures from another world exist until we have the technologies to travel there. It is theoretically possible there are planets with humans or creatures very similar to humans and maybe humans more advanced as us. We could find an entire planet of human beings, or possibly Dinosaurs that were not wiped out by a comet on the planet. But who knows? |
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Re: is there such things as aliens?
From: gatecrasher-ga on 19 Jul 2005 21:08 PDT |
I think a lot of good points have been made throughout these comments. And a lot of really bad points. It's pretty ignorant to dismiss science or religion one way or the other. Both Science AND Religion have strong evidence. In fact, evidence is constantly growing that indicates that many things mentioned in the Bible are scienctifically backed. In my opinion science and religion are inherently mutually inclusive. Einstein said something to the effect of (and this is not an exact quote) "Religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame." It's not appropriate to scoff someone for their belief in God or the Bible. Also, it's not right for someone that is religious to feel they are a better person than an atheist. Besides, one of the key values of religion should be to acknowledge other peoples beliefs no matter how they vary from your own. I completely relate to the people on here that trash talk the Bible and God because I used to feel the same way. The more I looked into the subject, the more I began to wonder if it might be possible that things are "more than they appear." Many people believe that the Bible is NOT literal in translation, meaning that some things mentioned are open for interpretation by the reader. It has also been suggested that the creation story of Genesis is really meant to describe the billions of years of things that have happened that scientists have described, which is supported by the fact that the scientific story of the "evolution/creation of the universe" coincides rather accurately to the Biblical story. In other words, the chronology of the events and development of specific things happen in accordance with each other in both the Scientific and Creation belief systems, but that the Bible mushes it all into 7 days versus the 14 Billion of science. Some places in the Bible exclaim that the realm of time does not apply to God, so that would explain the 7 days vs 14 billion years. (or so some believe) Having said all that, I would address the question at hand by saying, "Nobody knows for sure." No matter what anyone says, there's no solid evidence to scientifically prove that aliens exist. But some people don't need scientific evidence to "know" something is true, because it's part of their belief system and values. So, aliens are again a subjective matter. What IS an alien in your opinion? Some say "statistically speaking..." but statistics are just statistics. I can understand when someone says that an overwhelming statistic indicates that something is MORE LIKELY than not, but to say that statistics positively prove something is silly. I don't pretend to be a probability expert or a scientist. As to the Mars meteorite, it is rather interesting. Again, I'm not a scientist and I also didn't read all the tiny details, but if you want to be scientific, you must conclude that the Mars meteorite is not valid proof because it has been on Earth so it could be contaminated. The list goes on and on. Time and space and God and the Bible and science- none of them really explains aliens. So we just don't know. The following quote that someone on here wrote is interesting to me (and this is not meant as an attack): Even though science has proved a singular, omnipotent being cannot exist, we cannot prove beings or creatures from another world exist until we have the technologies to travel there. Please, tell me EXACTLY HOW has science PROVEN that a singular omnipotent being cannot exist? How has that been proven, I really would like to know. Could aliens exist? Sure. Might they not? Sure. Do I think they exist? I dunno! |
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