i use an ipod mini at the gym.  what are the best non earbud headphones to use
with an eye towards price.  what percent better acoustic would a 600
dollar compared to 100 dollars.  i tend to get a strange ear resonance
for a couple of days after prolonged headphone use. i wear glasses -
do any headphones allow for them.  i do not like behind ear, just
prefer over the head type.
could the noise reduction be giving me the ear fullness sensation?


thank you in advance

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Clarification of Question by mdpa173-ga on 12 Aug 2004 13:29 PDT

are you able to make any comment about 'gym suitability' - i've had
headphones which get sweat saturated due to cushion lining in wrong
spot

also do you know, will it plug directly into my ipod mini?

thank you

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Clarification of Question by mdpa173-ga on 12 Aug 2004 13:31 PDT

forgot to ask, what is difference btwn 600 and 650.

also, any idea how ebay seller is able to cut price? ty

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2004 13:36 PDT

Perspiration may be an issue with these headphones, as they use a
cushy velour type material.  You might want to contact Sennheiser
www.sennheiserusa.com to see if there's a replacement material to use.
 These headphones will work with any standar, however (which may come
with it).

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2004 13:42 PDT

The 650 is relatively new, and supposed to be an improved version of
the 600.  How much of an improvement, I don't know; I've never used
them.

According to Headphone.com, "While these babies aren't exactly in the
bargain category, redesigned drivers and an improved headphone cable
give the 650's an even cleaner sound than the 600's with less harmonic
distortion,"

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=13&subTopicID=72

As for the eBay seller, there are places to get these headphones
overseas for much less.  This may be one explanation.  I bought mine
from Germany a while ago for much less than typical American prices.

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Clarification of Question by mdpa173-ga on 12 Aug 2004 19:00 PDT

to jbf -  is it reasonable to leave the question open for a while to
allow for further comment?  i have no desire to deny you the fee you
have earned, however i am finding the suggestions of others helpful in
my decision.

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2004 19:55 PDT

Sure, that's no problem...

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2004 19:57 PDT

Crythias has some good points ... etymotic is a very good choice for
such phones (www.etymotic.com), as I have heard (although I haven't
tried them myself).

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2004 20:00 PDT

a line above was somehow garbled:

"These headphones will work with any standard headphone jack on an mp3
or CD player, but may require an adapter, however (which may come with
it)."

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Clarification of Question by mdpa173-ga on 12 Aug 2004 20:17 PDT

thanks.  are you familiar with the bose triport model?( i don't like
in ear at all btw)

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 13 Aug 2004 07:23 PDT

Nope, never heard of it...

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Clarification of Question by mdpa173-ga on 13 Aug 2004 19:26 PDT

to jbf, i took your suggestion and ordered from ebay, the600, i'm sure
it will be xclnt.  ok to post answer now!   thank you for your advice

Thank you, mdpa173-ga -

Enjoy them, and let me know if you have any questions!

jbf777

these headphones are amazing. the purchase site at ebay was also smooth. thanks.
by the way, extra ear pads are 26.dollars or so.

Check out these:

http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=BbumSm4OEwfFeE6nvDMXEjVByD6BKq2YPTLx61aEK9QyH714QfuA!1537258353!-1900012200?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=triport_headphones_index&pageName=/home_entertainment/headphones_headsets/headphones/index.jsp

Arguably the best headphones and value on the market, as reviewed by
many sources, are the Sennheiser HD-600 or HD-650.  If you want
perfect sound, these are the ones to get, and they are extremely
economical for the quality and comfort.  Next to these are the Grado
brand headphones.

Here's a link to them for $219.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61333&item=5714869059&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Note the extremely high ratings at Audio Review:

http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_117995_2750crx.aspx#reviews

You would have to have bat ears to hear fidelity over what these can
deliver.  I own a pair myself.  They are absolute audiophile-level,
neutral, accurate, extremely comfortable, and essentially perfect, for
an incredible price.

Additional reviews can be seen with this search link:

://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=hd600+review&btnG=Google+Search

If these work for you, let me know, and I'll post this as an answer.

jbf777
researcher

Don't forget, though, that you might actually get some decent quality
out of in-the-earphones http://www.exhardware.com/reviews.php?Id=134
rather than the typical buds. These block external sound almost
completely, as well as avoid a lot of the problems of sweat-in-ear.

Being not encumbered by your gear while working out is a plus. Not to
mention a bit of the cool factor ...

Glad to hear it!  Thanks for the rating and tip.

jbf777