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Subject:
Law - Are overpaid taxes/wages to employee recoverable?
Category: Business and Money > Employment Asked by: democracy-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
13 Aug 2004 13:53 PDT
Expires: 12 Sep 2004 13:53 PDT Question ID: 387525 |
SUMMARY: I am a one-man company in Calif. I had an employee who erroneously got overpaid a certain amount of money. Now he is refusing to return the overpayment even though we have corrected all records (like W2 & tax forms). I have sued him in Small Claims Court and would like to get as much documented evidence in support of my case as possible to convince the judge. Court date: Aug. 24, 2004 DETAILS: The money was gradually paid over several months on his monthly paycheck. It is a tax credit that IRS gives an employee under the name "Advance Earned Income Credit" or EIC. The clerical error happened either due to my fault or due to my payroll company's fault (i.e. the employee was not at fault). When the error was discovered during tax time, we had our payroll company make corrections for all past quarters & W2. Once IRS determined that he was not eligible for EIC, IRS billed us for this amount. I am requesting this former employee to pay this money since these are employee's share of federal taxes that were supposed to have been withheld from his salary. IRS simply bills the employer (instead of billing the employee) since the employer withholds taxes on the paycheck. I found this link that shows that even the California State Gov. (Department of Personnel Administration) will use any and all means to recover overpaid amounts from former employees: http://www.dpa.ca.gov/collbarg/contract/Unit14Contract99-11.htm However, I am looking for more concrete legal information like perhaps an actual law (California or Federal) that says that if someone is overpaid accidentally, they are supposed to return that money. (As we all know, IRS takes money back forcibly all the time if they make a mistake so why can't an employer take back the money especially if it is IRS taxes that are being taken back - not wages.) To win 100% of this question, please provide links to CA or Federal law that clearly spell out the law in the above context (law doesn't have to be in my favor). Or provide sufficient other links that give (direct or indirect) support to my case in court (e.g. from legal firm websites). You could even send a link to a law that perhaps says that money erroneously paid to someone does or does not belong to the receiver. Pls. note that context of the answer must be relevant to my case. I must receive answers no later than August 23 midnight CA time. Thanks for reading this far. |
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Re: Law - Are overpaid taxes/wages to employee recoverable?
From: hummer-ga on 13 Aug 2004 14:52 PDT |
Hi democracy, Catch Payroll Errors Early "It seems when the company underpays an employee it hears about the underpayment immediately. When the opposite occurs and there?s an overpayment, in many cases the employee does not notice and/or does not report it to management or the payroll person. When an error is caught immediately, normally the California Labor Commissioner allows a deduction to be made on the next paycheck. If the error is allowed to go over a longer period of time, and a substantial amount of overpayment accu-mulates, this can become an issue with the Labor Commissioner. This situation casts doubts as to whether this was an error or an increase in the employee?s pay and the Labor Commissioner?s opinion is normally the latter, resulting in the overpaid wages not being recoverable." http://www.pinc.org/pages/article.asp?vrecord=222 Regards, hummer |
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Re: Law - Are overpaid taxes/wages to employee recoverable?
From: taxmama-ga on 15 Aug 2004 15:36 PDT |
Dear Democracy, I am posting the note here, instead of as an answer, because you won't like the information. The Federal tax code holds employer's responsible for correct withholding from their employees. If you make an error, it's up to you to make the corrections in a timely manner. You indicate that the errors went on for many months, since you had to amend more than 1 quarterly return and a W-2. Your employee could cite IRC Sec 3402 to support his position that this your problem, not his. Many employees use that to get credit for withholding that was never taken by employers who treated them as indepdendent contractors. I wish I could help - and give you some encouraging advice. But I don't think there are any laws in your favor. If the judge, or commissioner, grants a ruling in your favor, it will simply be because of the math. So, make sure you have a written report showing how much you paid, and how much you should have paid. Make sure that one piece of paper, that's easy to follow, you can explain, numerically, how much you've overpaid. In the future, please be careful to review and reconcile your payroll very carefully each month. At the very least, at the end of each quarter. Good luck! Your TaxMama-ga |
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Re: Law - Are overpaid taxes/wages to employee recoverable?
From: democracy-ga on 23 Aug 2004 00:21 PDT |
Dear TaxMama, I appreciate your time to put in the comment although it seems inappropriate for my question. Here's why: 1. IRC 3402 says nothing much that is relevant to my case: http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/ircprov/3402.htm 2. The tax code you are referring to in which the IRS forces an employer to pay for the employee's share of taxes if the employer treats a worker as a contractor in violation of IRS rules does not apply here either. That's because such an employer has knowingly or unknowingly, disregarded IRS's regulations about how to determine who is an employee and who is a contractor. Obviously, that is the employer's fault in that case. I have found more relevant articles in this regard just FYI: http://www.boc.ca.gov/RRHAD.htm "A person who has been overpaid or on whose behalf any provider or other person has been overpaid, under this chapter, is liable for that amount unless: The overpayment was not due to fraud, misrepresentation or willful nondisclosure on the part of the recipient. The overpayment was received without fault on the part of the recipient and its recovery would be against equity and good conscience. " In my case, the last line would apply to my case - "... equity and good conscience." Is it in equity and good conscience that the employee not pay his fair share of taxes?? Thanks any ways. Regards, Democracy |
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Re: Law - Are overpaid taxes/wages to employee recoverable?
From: cavalierlawyer-ga on 31 Aug 2004 13:09 PDT |
Democracy, I know it's beyond your deadline, but here is the info you needed. You can recoup the amount in small claims court and seek your costs, according to this Opinion letter (that pertains to private employers). The law you referred to above refers to amounts of victims, which seems inapplicable to me. http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/opinions/1999-09-22-1.pdf Cavalierlawyer |
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