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Subject: Decline of legal employment
Category: Business and Money > Employment
Asked by: jhabley-ga
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Posted: 16 Aug 2004 11:26 PDT
Expires: 15 Sep 2004 11:26 PDT
Question ID: 388592
I am looking for statistics that support the thesis that the number of
people entering the legal profession (as lawyers) is dropping. I'd
prefer Canadian-only stats, but will accept North American wide. Also
would be great to see other country comparisons if the data exists,
but is not necessary.

Clarification of Question by jhabley-ga on 16 Aug 2004 12:29 PDT
Hi Bobbie7, great to see you again. As usual, your work is thorough,
quick, and exactly to specs. I've printed this out and will take it on
the plane to put into my presentation. Please do formally answer this
with what you've found so far; I may have some additional quick
clarification questions later this evening.
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Subject: Re: Decline of legal employment
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 16 Aug 2004 12:34 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Jhabley,

I'm glad that my findings are satisfactory. I will repost the
information below to make my answer official.

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Judges, Lawyers and Quebec Notaries at a Glance
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411.shtml

Important Facts 
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p4.shtml

Unemployment: Below average 
The unemployment rate (1%) is below the 2001 average (5%). 
This rate is below the average for professional occupations 

% of Part-time work is about the same as average 
There were 71,400 workers employed in these occupations in 2001, an
increase of 9% since 1994.
The percentage of part-time workers is 6% compared to the 2001 average
of 18% and has stayed about the same since 1994

Self Employed
The percentage of self-employed workers (51%) is above the 2001
average (16%) and has stayed about the same since 1994.
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p4.shtml#section4_2

Current conditions 
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p3.shtml

Outlook To 2007
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p3.shtml#section3_3


See page 8
?The total number of lawyers increased by 106% between 1970 and 1980
and by another 73% between1980 and 1995. Comparable changes in the
number of men in the profession were 85% and 41%. Increases in the
number of female lawyers were especially note-worthy: 535% between
1970 and 1980 and 263%between 1980 and 1995. Thus, while women
accounted for less than 5% of lawyers in 1970, their proportion
increased to 15% in 1980 to
http://www.statcan.ca/english/studies/75-001/archive/2000/pear2000012001s1a02.pdf

The job market
http://www.commonlaw.uottawa.ca/eng/student_services/career/handbook/ch4_job_market.htm

EMPLOYMENT TRENDS

For Recent Graduates, 1985-2001 

?The overall employment rate for the Class of 2001 was 90% of
graduates for whom employment status was known as of February 15,
2002. It is important to note that new job classifications, effective
with the Class of 2001, permit a more precise tracking of the extent
to which law graduates are using their law degree in ways other than
the practice of law in the traditional sense. However, because of
these changes, exact comparisons with prior years are not available
for all trends.?
http://www.ilrg.com/employment/trends/

University qualifications granted by field of study, by sex
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/educ21.htm

Here?s an interesting article from the Canadian Bar Association: Seven
"Wonders" of the World...The Future for Lawyers
http://www.cba.org/CBA/EPIIGram/June2004/future.asp

U.S.

?The number of self-employed lawyers is expected to decrease slowly,
reflecting the difficulty of establishing a profitable new practice in
the face of competition from larger, established law firms. Moreover,
the growing complexity of law, which encourages specialization, along
with the cost of maintaining up-to-date legal research materials,
favors larger firms.?
http://www.collegegrad.com/careers/proft60.shtml


If there's any further information you need, please ask for a clarification.

Best regards,
Bobbie7

Clarification of Answer by bobbie7-ga on 16 Aug 2004 12:46 PDT
Jhabley, the following information may interest you:


Earnings & Employment Trends ( July 2003)

Among the Legal Professions, judges and lawyers, women increased their
representation in the first half of the decade, from 19 to 32 per cent
for judges and from 25 to 28 per cent for lawyers, but then their
representation remained unchanged between 1996 and 2001. This
flattening-out in the share may reflect that the long hours and stress
required to practise law are not compatible with raising a family, so
women lawyers are switching careers. ?

The data illustrated in the chart on page 2 of this publication
support this theory.

?The data from the 2001 Census show that many more men than women with
law degrees are practising law.?
BC Stats
http://www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca/pubs/eet/eet0307.pdf



Saskatchewan: Trends and Outlooks   
 
?The number of judges and lawyers working in Saskatchewan increased
significantly in the late nineties; from 1,390 in 1995 to 1,660 in
2000 according to Statistics Canada. Whether or not this high rate of
new job growth continues, this remains a large occupational group in
Saskatchewan. It is also an aging work force, with over 50% of all
Saskatchewan judges and lawyers 45 years of age or older in 2001.
Consequently, retirement or other turnover will create numerous
employment opportunities in the next few years, even if new job
creation slows. Nearly 70% of all judges and lawyers in Saskatchewan
work in the professional, scientific and technical services
industries.?

(..)

?While the employment outlook for lawyers in Saskatchewan is
excellent, alternatives to legal services may soon negatively impact
employment in this field. The low cost of dispute-resolution systems,
for example, may be attractive to clients facing the high cost of
lawyers' fees. The widespread adoption of these and other systems may
decrease the demand for lawyers in some areas. As well, electronic
filings and the growth of computerized legal databases my increase the
use of paralegal technicians at the expense of lawyers. Still, it must
be stressed that Saskatchewan employment trends favour lawyers in the
near future.?
http://saskjobfutures.ca/profiles/profile.cfm?noc=4112&lang=e&site=graphic
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Subject: Re: Decline of legal employment
From: bobbie7-ga on 16 Aug 2004 12:18 PDT
 
Hi Jhabley!

I gathered some statistics regarding lawyers in Canada.

Judges, Lawyers and Quebec Notaries at a Glance
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411.shtml

Important Facts 
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p4.shtml

Unemployment: Below average 
The unemployment rate (1%) is below the 2001 average (5%). 
This rate is below the average for professional occupations 

% of Part-time work is about the same as average 
There were 71,400 workers employed in these occupations in 2001, an
increase of 9% since 1994.
The percentage of part-time workers is 6% compared to the 2001 average
of 18% and has stayed about the same since 1994

Self Employed
The percentage of self-employed workers (51%) is above the 2001
average (16%) and has stayed about the same since 1994.
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p4.shtml#section4_2

Current conditions 
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p3.shtml

Outlook To 2007
http://jobfutures.ca/noc/411p3.shtml#section3_3


See page 8
?The total number of lawyers increased by 106% between 1970 and 1980
and by another 73% between1980 and 1995. Comparable changes in the
number of men in the profession were 85% and 41%. Increases in the
number of female lawyers were especially note-worthy: 535% between
1970 and 1980 and 263%between 1980 and 1995. Thus, while women
accounted for less than 5% of lawyers in 1970, their proportion
increased to 15% in 1980 to
http://www.statcan.ca/english/studies/75-001/archive/2000/pear2000012001s1a02.pdf

The job market
http://www.commonlaw.uottawa.ca/eng/student_services/career/handbook/ch4_job_market.htm

EMPLOYMENT TRENDS

For Recent Graduates, 1985-2001 

?The overall employment rate for the Class of 2001 was 90% of
graduates for whom employment status was known as of February 15,
2002. It is important to note that new job classifications, effective
with the Class of 2001, permit a more precise tracking of the extent
to which law graduates are using their law degree in ways other than
the practice of law in the traditional sense. However, because of
these changes, exact comparisons with prior years are not available
for all trends.?
http://www.ilrg.com/employment/trends/

University qualifications granted by field of study, by sex
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/educ21.htm

Is any of the above information helpful?

Thanks,
Bobbie7
Subject: Re: Decline of legal employment
From: bobbie7-ga on 16 Aug 2004 12:24 PDT
 
Here?s an interesting article from the Canadian Bar Association: Seven
"Wonders" of the World...The Future for Lawyers
http://www.cba.org/CBA/EPIIGram/June2004/future.asp

U.S.

?The number of self-employed lawyers is expected to decrease slowly,
reflecting the difficulty of establishing a profitable new practice in
the face of competition from larger, established law firms. Moreover,
the growing complexity of law, which encourages specialization, along
with the cost of maintaining up-to-date legal research materials,
favors larger firms.?
http://www.collegegrad.com/careers/proft60.shtml

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