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Subject: Graduate Schools with joined Computer Science and MBA Programs
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: snwmanst-ga
List Price: $54.00
Posted: 20 Aug 2004 17:42 PDT
Expires: 19 Sep 2004 17:42 PDT
Question ID: 390646
Could you please find me all graduate schools that offer a dual/double
degree program in Computer Science and MBA.  I have already found two,
UCLA and UIUC.  If you can find me more, preferably schools with a
good reputation it would be awesome.   Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 20 Aug 2004 18:54 PDT
Most Researchers are very leery of questions that ask us to list "all"
of something. Would you be satisfied with a list of schools that offer
programs of the type mentioned, even though the list might not include
all schools that may offer this kind of program? If so, how long a
list would be satisfactory? It's very helpful to a Researcher to have
an idea of what your expectations are; that way we can gauge how best
to spend our time in gathering information for you.

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 20 Aug 2004 19:49 PDT
Pink is correct.  There's also a second problem: a degree may be
combined with something other than "computer science."  For example,
my MBA is in finance and "management science," approximately the same
thing.  Do you want to expand the range or is "computer science" it? 
Not "management science" or "information technology" or some other
variation?

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Clarification of Question by snwmanst-ga on 20 Aug 2004 22:17 PDT
Just to clarify, i'm looking for a program that allows a student to be
enrolled in both an MBA program and a Computer Science program at the
same time, thus recieving two masters degrees in the period of time
allotted.  For example: the UCLA Program is described as follows:
MBA/Master of Computer Science with the School of Engineering and
Applied Sciences (three years).  For this program I have to apply to
both the Anderson School of Management and the School of Engineering. 
After three years i'll be done and i'll have two masters degrees.  I
am looking for programs of the exact same type.  So far i've found
UIUC.  Other schools have programs that combine MBA/IT or have
specialized MBA programs, but what i'm looking for is strictly ones
that offer two degrees: MBA and Computer Science.  I am not exactly
sure how many of these programs exist, but if I have a list of the Top
10 and perhaps 5 more that are mediocre I will be happy.  Feel free to
let me know if you need any more clarification.  Thanks for your
effors.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Graduate Schools with joined Computer Science and MBA Programs
Answered By: adiloren-ga on 21 Aug 2004 02:43 PDT
 
Hi, thanks for your question. There don't seem to be as many dual
degree programs in business and computer science as one may expect in
this "information age". Here are some schools that do offer such a
program (note: there were some more, but most were online programs,
etc. I can provide you with info on those if you request it):

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Schools that offer dual-degree programs - MBA/ Computer Science:

Carnegie Mellon University
MBA - Computer Science 3-2 Program
http://wpweb2k.gsia.cmu.edu/admissions/3-2/bscs.asp

"This page is designed to provide information regarding the Masters of
Business Administration (MBA) and Bachelor of Science Computer Science
(BSCS) 3-2 program at Carnegie Mellon University.  Please read the
information below for program and application information.  Should you
have additional questions, please contact Carolyn Hess Abraham,
Associate Director of Masters Admissions at the Carnegie Mellon School
of Business."

UCLA
Management, M.B.A./Computer Science, M.S.
http://www.gdnet.ucla.edu/gasaa/deptinfo/deptinfo.asp?code=201&academicyear=20042005

"The John E. Anderson Graduate School of Management and the Department
of Computer Science in the School of Engineering and Applied Science
offer a concurrent degree program which enables the student to
complete the requirements for the M.S. in Computer Science and the
M.B.A. in three academic years. Interested applicants should contact
the M.B.A. program office for details."


Rensselaer at Hartford
http://www.rh.edu/academic/cis/dual_degree.html

"Dual Technical Master's and M.B.A. Degrees

Today's business environment demands professionals with a combination
of sharp leadership and technology management skills. Studies have
shown that people with master's degree skills in engineering and
business are twice as likely to become senior managers at some point
in their careers. Rensselaer at Hartford recognizes this need and
provides a way for students to complete two degrees simultaneously in
less time than if the two were completed separately. The Dual Masters
Degree program allows students to select from a family of unique
programs across Management, Computer Science, Information Technology,
and Engineering disciplines. Programs can be developed which combine
the M.B.A. or M.S. in Management with the M.S. in Computer Science,
Information Technology, or Engineering. This allows for a
30-credit-hour M.S. degree and the 60-credit-hour M.B.A. to be
completed in 72 (rather than 90) credit hours; or for two
30-credit-hour M.S. degrees to be completed in 54 (rather than 60)
credit hours."

*************************

Notable schools that don't offer dual-programs but offer technical
concentrations within the MBA progam:

MIT MBA Program
http://mitsloan.mit.edu/mba/program/index.php

Northeastern University MBA
http://www.cba.neu.edu/grad/portal.cfm?nav=47

*********************

An article dicussing the value of an MBA, specifically those with
concentrations in technology, and comparing the degree's value to a
computer science degree. Hey, why not just get both! (glad it's you
and not me ;)


Journal of Education for Business
March 1999

HEADLINE: What Have MBAs Done for Us Lately?

BYLINE: Hahs, Debbie L

HIGHLIGHT:
Business degrees are starting to be held more in prestige again
several issues pushed for changes in MBA programs

BODY:
<<The paper looks into the forces driving change in master of business
administration (MBA) programs and the proactive agendas established by
institutions to meet industry needs. Technology is playing an
increasingly vital part in keeping companies competitive. A survey of
1,400 CEOs finds that advanced degrees in business were preferred over
ones in computer science and engineering. However, it has been only a
few years since some technology managers reported on the big gap
between what their corporations wanted from recent MBA graduates and
what schools actually taught. To bridge this gap, business schools at
MIT, Harvard, Carnegie Mellon, and other leading universities have
created new courses and programs that zero in on technology and
consider rapid technological change. By involving industry in the
education process, schools can structure programs so graduates will
meet the expectations of their prospective employers. Students get
practical, real-life experience that does not underscore theoretical
content at the cost of practical skills through the interaction of
industry and educational institutions. At Keller Graduate School of
Management in Northern Illinois, working professionals are hired as
teachers. It likewise attempts to integrate quality, communications,
computerization, internationalization, and ethics into all its
courses. Article discusses other forces the change in MBA programs and
presents a profile of an MBA graduate, 21st century style.>>

**************************************

Google Search Strategy:

"dual degree" MBA, "computer science"
"MBA, computer science"
MBA, computer science
"joint program" MBA computer science

Clarification of Answer by adiloren-ga on 21 Aug 2004 02:47 PDT
Sorry, there are supposed to be more- I think I deleted a bunch of
them somehow. I'll follow up with more soon.

Clarification of Answer by adiloren-ga on 24 Aug 2004 00:21 PDT
I have to go back and find some of the others I had found. Sorry about
the one with the BS in computer science- that slipped past me.

I'll post some more MBA programs with MS in computer science soon. 

Thanks for your patience. 

-Anthony

Clarification of Answer by adiloren-ga on 24 Aug 2004 01:01 PDT
Here is some more information.  You would think that there would be a
lot more of these programs, but they are actually pretty scarce.  Hope
this helps.

St. Xavier:

Dual Degree programs combine the strengths of two schools within Saint
Xavier University
http://www.sxu.edu/business/grad/dualdegree.html#MBAMACS

"MBA/MACS Program 
The MBA/MACS is designed to meet the needs of those individuals
aspiring to move into a management level position in Internet
Information Systems."

Boston University:

http://management.bu.edu/gpo/msmba/index.asp

"Boston University School of Management is the only business school in
the world offering the MS·MBA, a Masters of Science in Information
Systems and an MBA. You don't need a technical background to
participate in this extraordinary program?just an awareness of the
interdependence of business processes and technology."

Bentley University:

http://www.bentley.edu/graduate/academics/dual_degree.cfm?CFID=305123&CFTOKEN=54749798

"The Dual Degree option gives students a powerful combination of broad
knowledge and deep technical expertise. Information Age MBA students
may simultaneously enroll in any of the McCallum Graduate School of
Business's specialized Master of Science degree programs. Up to 12
credits in courses at the 600 level or higher may be applied to
fulfill requirements for both programs."


UNC MBA/ MS Information Science 

http://www.ils.unc.edu/html/2_dual_degree.html

"Responding to marketplace needs for high-tech managers with
well-rounded, leading-edge business skills, UNC?s Kenan-Flagler
Business School and the School of Information and Library Science have
developed a dual master?s degree program. This dual degree program
will meet the needs of the high-tech business world in a more
comprehensive manner than either degree can by itself."

In Search of IT's Dual Degrees 
"So-called techno-MBAs - degrees that combine a traditional MBA
program with a heavy dose of technology - have risen to the very top
of many recruiters' wish lists."

MAY 14, 2001 (COMPUTERWORLD)
http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801,60445,00.html

"BU will admit its first class of 100 full-time MS/MBA students in September. "

"Temple recently revamped its graduate school programs to meet the
needs of a student population that's increasingly interested in adding
proficiency in IT to traditional business studies. Part-time students
can now choose an MBA with either an MIS or e-business concentration,
or a master of science in e-business, which is a post-MBA program.
Full-time students can pursue an MS/MBA in e-business. "

"He left his job and entered the demanding full-time MIS/ MBA program
at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. To survive the temporary
loss of income, Skinner banked sales commissions while he was still
working. While enrolled in the program, he obtained loans, lived
frugally and worked on campus. "

Clarification of Answer by adiloren-ga on 24 Aug 2004 01:18 PDT
Here is some more:

The California State schools offer a lot of dual MBA''s with a MS in
Information Technology

Cal State

Sacramento
http://www.csus.edu/cbagrad/MBA%20programs%20pages/MSBA%20MIS.htm

Long Beach
http://www.csulb.edu/depts/isd/

Fullerton
http://www.fullerton.edu/ecs/

Northridge
http://www.csun.edu/acct/misrt.html

"MASTER OF SCIENCE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS

The Master of Science in Business Administration, Management
Information Systems (MSBA/MIS) program prepares students for
specialized professional careers in developing and managing
computer-based information systems. This 30-unit program is designed
to accommodate students who have an undergraduate background in
Management Information Systems. Students who do not have an academic
foundation in information systems may participate in the MSBA/MIS
program after taking the Program Prerequisite courses. "
Comments  
Subject: Re: Graduate Schools with joined Computer Science and MBA Programs
From: pinkfreud-ga on 21 Aug 2004 09:17 PDT
 
Columbia University lists this kind of dual degree program:

"Computer Science/Business: Dual M.S./M.B.A."

http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/students/academics/registered.php
Subject: Re: Graduate Schools with joined Computer Science and MBA Programs
From: snwmanst-ga on 21 Aug 2004 12:01 PDT
 
Thank you for all your hard work.  The programs above are all great
except the only ones that apply to what i'm looking for are the
Columbia, UCLA (which i already knew), and the Rensselaer at Hartford
programs.  Unfortuanately the Carnegie Mellon program is an MBA with a
B.S. in computer science instead of an M.S.  I'm quite satisfied with
the work you guys have done.  If you could only find a handful more or
so, if possible, that would be awesome.  All these programs are quite
competative and so i'd like to apply to as many as possible, just to
be safe.  You guys rock!

Thanks you!

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