Three of my favorite SHOP NBC hosts are no longer with the home
shopping network.  They are Tim Temple, Karen Connelly and Kendy
Kloepper.  Why were they let go or did they leave on there own?  And
will they be showing up on other shopping networks?  These were 3 of
the strongest and most knowledgeable hots they have and now they are
just gone!

I dont have the answer and have been looking as well.  I strongly
agree with your comments on this and received a blanket PR response
from ShopNBC.  On Shawn's website there is some reference under FAQ's
but nothing specific.  Hope to find Tim somewhere else soon.

I wish I knew too!!!! I emailed Shawn and in his reply all he said was
Karen said good-bye on the air at the end of her show, walked out of
the building. He says that is all he knows. (Yeah right!!!) I have
been trying every source I know to get an answer but right now no one
is talking.  I read an article that there is a new shopping channel in
the works ( suppose to be very high-end, designer labels only) and I
am wondering if all our favorite people will show up there. What
really bothers me is all the changes in Hosts and vendors over the
last few years, you would think management at ShopNBC would understand
their loyal customers do not like alot of change. I have been watching
some of the new Hosts.....no comment!!! They do not have the working
on air relationship with the vendors and it shows. If I ever find out,
I will post it.

I think Tim Temple was the most knowledgeable watch host in the business. Shop
NBC made a huge mistake by letting him go. The people they replaced
him with are jokes. They lost my business!!!!!

Karen has signed on with a NEW shopping network.  This word comes via
her ex-husband Skip.  I can only assume that the other two had similar
plans.

The Shop NBC Watch Show without Tim Temple sucks. Tim knew what he was
talking about on the subject of watches. I learned a lot about watches
and the history of watches from Tim. I watched the show because it was
very informative. I own many watches from Crotons to Omegas. I knew
nothing about automatic movements until I started to watch Tim
Tempel's watch show. The new host is horrible. The new host obviously
has very little knowledge of horology. I no longer enjoy watching the
Shop NBC Watch Show without TIM TEMPLE.

I'm glad I found some sort of answers here.  I haven't been watching
ShopNBC the last few weeks, so I'm a little late on noticing Karen's
departure.  I wasn't even aware of Kendy or Tim.  This is a great
loss.  I e-mailed ShopNBC one week ago, asking why Karen was no longer
listed as a host--I still haven't received a reply.  I called Customer
Service a little while ago.  All the rep said was that Karen resigned
on the air.  I didn't see her last show, so I have no idea what
transpired.  I just hope Wes and Pam, Charla and Laura don't go as
well.  I think ShopNBC owes its customers some sort of an explanation
. . .

I agree that the watch shows just are not the same without Tim Temple.
 His knowledge of watches is pretty good, though I think he over-used
the word "complication" a bit.  What made the show so good when he was
on was his quirky sense of humor and he coveyed a sense of fun and
excitement about watches.  I also think shopnbc should let their loyal
customers know why he is gone.  For anyone from shopnbc who gives a
darn, I don't plan on watching any of the "watch" shows anymore or
buying any more watches from shopnbc.  I am looking forward to seeing
Tim back on the air on a different network, perhaps I will take my
business there.  Also, does anyone know if Tim has a personal website?
 I would really like to email him some kind words.

Yesterday, 9/14/04, Charla was on with Sonia Bitton took a call from a
Sonia fan.  The caller asked, on the air, "Where are Kendy and Karen
(caller didn't mention Tim), I haven't seen them on the air recently."
 Charla was a little taken aback and said they have moved-on to do
something else, their own thing and we miss them and wish them well. 
Charla also said she has stayed in touch with Karen and will send her
everyones's good thoughts and wishes.  She didn't say any thing else
but that and stayed true to the company/party line.  The caller said
she hoped that Charla wasn't leaving because she loved her bubbly
personality, etc. Charla said she wasn't leaving.

So that's the latest I've heard from Shop NBC.  But as everyone else
has said, the shows are not the same, the knowledge and personal
attachment to the viewer are not there with the new hosts.  One female
host can't remember the older show hosts' names when she introduces
them and she can't speak a complete sentence without flubbing it. 
Also, she won't put on her glasses to read the prompter.  Charla does
because she's a professional.

I Know for a fact that the reason Karen and Kendy left the show was
because this "NEW" shopping network is getting started.  A ridiculous
sum of money was thrown at them! Unfortunately I haven't heard what
the name of this shopping network is or where it can be found, etc. 
If they had any common sense, they would post something that said
where they were going. It's possible though their contracts with
ShopNBC had something in them that said they couldn't work for a
certain amount of months for another network.
I don't blame the company for letting them go, I think if they really
cared about their viewers, they would have found a way to stay there,
and if they really wanted the money I think a sister network of NBC
could afford it!  Until they let me know where they are going, I am
going to enjoy Charla, Lynne, and The McCoy's!

Something's wrong somewhere; Tim'd never voluntarily leave before his
6th anniversay which is this month.  What is this new shopping place? 
With his talents, he could have gone into music, photography, or even
designing watches for companies.  Why all the trips to Wisconsin?
Striking deals?  HE is the one who brought watches to ValueVision; it
was his baby. I don't see him just walking away unless SNBC put
demands he wouldn't accept. The other twits who now are doing watches
know nothing, mispronounce, etc. Tim IS watches; he IS SNBC. Without
his shows, they'd be a lot poorer. I've quit SNBC altogether. Can you
imagine how his guests feel?  Tim and Judah were a blast. No more
posse jokes, soundproof booth, teleprompter. If Tim is going
elsewhere, how long before he can appear and how will we know anyhow?
I've bought my last timepiece--a Coifman. It's a Bad Day in Black
Rock.  I'm depressed as hell.

Have read everything here. Some questions:  How can Tim go to another
type of SNBC without taking Eyal, Lior, Judah, and Croton? He probably
knows lots of similar people, but would they go with him when SNBC's
already in place? Would the ones mentioned leave SNBC? I doubt it.
Despite all his knowledge, even a new station wouldn't take Tim
without him bringing along people of the calibre he had at
SNBC--people with clout. The "posse" sure wouldn't help him out. Can
anyone answer these posers?  I think we've lost Tim forever as a watch
host. That one person mentioned music. Maybe he and that Chris
Chandler are doing something together? Tim as arranger and producer?
If Google can't get an answer, how can we when all SNBC hands out is
that form garbage. Has anyone contacted the Minneapolis newspapers?
Hope someone can get answers before this site's gone.
Karen's a loss--what's her supposed new station? Maybe she's just
designing now. I personally don't care.
Without Mr. Temple, there's no more watch-buying for me, so no point to SNBC.

I don't think the Network demanded them anything unreasonable.  I
heard they started throwing money at the other hosts when they saw
Kendy and Karen leave.  I'm really not sure about Tim, but if this
"new" network is as smart as they seem (they took the top 2 female
hosts after all) I am sure they probably needed a male counterpart
with a following in the male demographic as Tim had.  I only hope they
will let us know where they are going soon.  What do all you ladies
think of Lynne taking over Karen's spot?

p.s. does anyone know where i can read about this new network or
anything at all about it?

Personally, I'm glad Mr.Temple is no longer associated with Shop NBC.
I found his watch show rather boring and confusing.Mr.Temple could not
stay on task...he stammered too much,would wander away from the
discussion at hand and would have to be reminded where he left off.
His attention span was extremly short. I also sensed an air of
discomfort between he and Eyal of Invica whenever they did a show
together. As far as the other host,Charla....she isn't hardly worth
mentioning. This woman must have had an inside connection to get hired
in the first place and is a total bafoon. I feel that Shop NBC is much
better off without the "service" of these two hosts and can only
continue to improve by offering us, the loyal patrons of Shop
NBC,professional and adept hosts.

I too noticed some friction between Mr Temple and the Invicta guy.
Lets face it the invicta guy has the money and an ego the size of a
lupa grand, I wouldn't want to cross him. I was addicted to that watch
show bascally due to TT's obvious enthusiasm and honesty in sales.
time to find a new vice, glad i was never suckered into an invicta,
good luck to em.

I think we should let herplover-ga know that charla is still on air

How can anyone possibly think there was "friction/discomfort" between
Tim and Eyal/Invicta? Wasn't it Tim who came up with what was called
the "Zoo" collection; would Eyal have even considered it without
liking Tim?
Tim Temple boring? Tim Temple stammering? Tim Temple with a short
attention span? hey, herplover, what show were you watching? "Stay on
task"? what are you--a teacher? people don't talk like that in real
life. Tim was so on task, I don't know how he stood it.
Perhaps the farming out of all HIS shows to the novices who know
diddly ticked him off. Personally, I don't buy watches because they
have a pretty color or are cutting edge--I want the
movement/complication info, and these other pathetic hosts can't even
come close.  As with daver3, I too was addicted to Time Zone/Watch
It/etal.
Maybe one of you guys should ask Google about this supposed new
station. jb007p1, Tim needs hosts to bring in the merchandise; no
station would want just TT, would they?
Bottom line:  no one's talking and we'll prob. never learn the why. 
what's worse, we won't know where next to find Tim.
I'm with vtimelordv and depressed as hell. We're all being left in the
dark without a hope in h---.

For your information Byebyette, I AM a teacher and people DO speak
this way...at least educated people do. I stand by my observations
regarding Mr. Temple and his other co-hosts inept,(look it up),
ability to perform in a professional manner. Obviously, I have ruffled
your feathers...unfortunate. However, it IS still a free country, and
we ALL are still entitled to our opinions. Tim Temple was nothing but
a paid employee who obviously did not perform to the
satisfaction/expectations of Shop NBC...period!
Bottom line: "we'll never learn the why?","we won't know where next to
find Tim?", you're depressed as hell?, you're left in the dark without
a hope in h---? Hmmm...

herplover: in your frenetic haste to denigrate me--I, too, being a pedagogue--
you're forgetting the point to this page:  Where & why did 3 of the
best of the Shop NBC hosts leave the show? [I'd argue the 3.]  (By the
way, consult the dictionary for the spelling of "bafoon".)
If Tim was not up to Shop's standards, etc., then they lied? when they
said he chose to leave? They lied about the 2 women, as well?
The point to all our missives is to learn the whys and wheres of them
now. Can you help in that area, or don't you care? If you don't, then
why write here?
I do wish that someone could give all of us the answers we
search--don't think they'll ever be made known, however.
IS there even a new shopping network?

Hey, everyone--if you haven't already done so, go to the third green
box site at the top of this page--www.where-to-surf.com and read the
reports from others. Nearing the bottom of the list were some real
goodies about Karen and Kendy--rather surprising.
Are there other places where we might learn something valid?
neeen-ga deserves an answer for his/her $2, as do we all.

Hi everyone, 
Just over a week ago I sent Skip Connelly (Karen's X)an email and
asked if he knew where Karen went....well you will be happy to know
that Karen went with a new shopping channel that will air early next
year.  If I can find out other information I will post it here.

hey, snowlodg--this site disappears at 10 pm, EST, in 2 days!!!!!
Wednesday, 22 Sept. have my doubts you can learn it that quickly.
However, I am really ONLY INTERESTED in the whereabouts of TIM
TEMPLE--THE Watch Guy! Wish you'd asked Skip (who I miss a lot) about
him, as well.
Think all's a lost cause.  Especially with this site closing down so soon.

I've been waiting for Tim Temple to reappear and was assuming that he
was just on vacation or something. Judging by these comments he's
apparently gone for good...or do we know for sure yet? Anyway, Tim is
just plain fun to listen to. I could care less if he's the best public
speaker in the world or whether he's the foremost authority on
watches. His watch shows are entertaining in a way that none of the
other people can match. And I'm sorry if any of you like Shawn Wilsie
or whatever his name is, but I hate to listen to him, especially on
the watch shows...no fun at all and apparently very little knowledge
of watches.

Hey, mckinnm--you and & I are SO in total sync about Tim!  when he was
gone from the show after 3 wks., I emailed Customer Service about when
he'd return from vacation.  Their answer was a form PR piece of
garbage:  "Tim Temple chose to leave . . . "
Shawn is pathetic beyond words.
I've quit the watch shows and SNBC.
All is secrecy/hush-hush. No way will SNBC reveal any info.
The chances of learning the truth are nil; how we'll ever find Tim
again is beyond my comprehension.
It's a loss words don't cover; he was great; loved him with Judah; his
knowledge endless in all shows he covered--jewelery, electronics, etc.
If you have any brilliant idea(s), let us know; this site ends today;
think i'll repost it in slightly different form.
Maybe Tim decided to go into a new career direction; whatever--leaving
wasn't an impluse; he must have made plans at least a month prior to
his departure.

Glad to find this forum! I'm very displeased by this turn of events as
well. I'm in total agreement with bob8950, lawdude, watch_guy13,
vtimelordv, adessociao, byebyett, and mckinnm. I hope that Tim will
resurface somewhere. I know that Tim has a website dealing with his
photography and he may have another dealing with his music but I've
not been able to find it. All three of these folks will be missed by
me but especially Tim Temple because of his vast knowledge about
watches. I'll buy no more watches from ShopNBC.

In case this site closes, I opened another under something like: 
What's become of Tim Temple?  Gabby757 there's one comment there if
you'd like to take a look.  Unfortunately, it, too, is vague but, at
least, it comes from a very, very reliable source.
Can you tell me what the site is for Tim's photography?
How any of us are to find Tim in the future, I haven't a clue; do you?
757 hope you'll respond to the other site; do not understand why this
one's still here since it's past the expiration date at the top and
would like to continue the conversation.

I agree with so many people on this site. I REALLY miss Tim Temple's
watch programs. There was a real chemistry between he and his guests.
Tim really got me interested in collecting watches. His knowledge of
watches kept me watching his programs. In all due respects from my
personal point of view,I feel that the other hosts are light years
away from equalling Tim's presence. I no longer tape the watch
programs. In fact, I'm no longer watching ShopNBC. I just have this
personal feeling that the other hosts are just selling watches and not
giving the viewers a real indepth look at times in to the watch
industry and related topics of interest.Tim was so good at this. Yes,
he was there to sell watches but he did it by being extremely
informative in his endeavor.

hey, 1941 and 757, there are 2 other question sites--Tim Temple former
NBC host and ShopNBC host Tim Temple.  Go there in case this one
disappears.
We need a devious mind [or a mole  :)] to get us what we need.
Anybody out there up for the job?

Calling everyone and anyone. Found those 2 other sites at Google
Answers:  Tim Temple former SNBC host and ShopNBC host, Tim Temple.
Nothing really exciting, but may get some one of you thinking and
coming up with new approaches to our problem.
I WANT TIM TEMPLE BACK with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have it on good authority that Tim left the shows for 2 reasons.

1) He was in contract negotiations (possibly to counter a higher offer
made by this new network) and ShopNBC simply felt that Tim was asking
for much more than he was worth to them. They could not agree on terms
(both money and power) and agreed to end his contract.

2) Tim has gotten involved with this new network and is working in a
more powerful position than just a regular host. He will have say-so
over products carried, etc.

Tim was excellent at what he did, but stay tuned, ShopNBC will be
adding a new host to the watch shows that will not only match Tim's
watch knowledge (possibly surpass it) but will share his same
enthusiasm and provide equal entertainment value.

I saw a post or two saying that Tim and the CEO of Invicta seemed to
have some tension. This could not be farther from the truth. As a
matter of fact they have a friendship that extends beyond business on
the air. Tim probably enjoyed presenting Invictas moreso than any
other brand, and had more "fun" on the air with Eyal Lalo than
probably any other guest.

The watch shows will not die, in actuality they will flourish beyond
what we have previously seen. The hosts currently working the watch
shows are only doing so until the new host arrives. Many who are
filling in simply do not know watches because that is not their job,
they are merely a substitute.

Keep your eyes open, I can tell you that you will be in for a pleasant
surprise in the coming month.

I really am very leery of the phrase "I have it on good authority". 
So, WHO IS THIS GOOD AUTHORITY, hmmmmmmmm?????  Why the secrecy; enjoy
lording it over the rest of us?
Why should we believe YOU; because you say so? Uh, huh; no way, jose; forget it.
It all sounds very, very logical what you threw out for us peasants;
you might even be Tim himself writing it sounds so plausible. If you
are Tim, it's very clever to say that SNBC will be even better without
TT. Get a grip, guru (didn't David Mermelstein call Tim that?).
Without Tim, SNBC sucks. Am not interested in those who will make up
the "Watch Team", as the first newsletter (and last for moi--stolen
from Tim--said.  A host better than Tim--how do YOU know that? Anyhow,
there ain't no such animal.
In any case, I'll never see the person; I quit SNBC the second
Customer Service tossed their PR comment out.
By not saying who you are to know all this inside info, you've labeled
yourself a coward--possibly a SNBC clod/suit who was told to tell us
what you have. How else could you KNOW Tim's salary, for cryin' out
loud? Why not tell us this new network' name that YOU KNOW he's going
to that will be overshadowed by SNBC?
You are rather arrogant, mr. guru; i both mistrust and distrust you.
Except for those 2 earlier twits who spoke of Tim and Eyal not getting
along, the rest of us know that's a pile of do-do.  He and Judah were
a comedic, knowledgeable duo. Poor Lior--likes Tim so much.
Tim's busy climbing the ladder of success and, what they were making
him do at your station, he loathed. He's prob. arrogant, too--but with
good reason. The man's brilliant! Probably a MENSA member.
Your missive sent "to help [us])" did no such thing. It's all
innuendo/doublespeak/parc. Done very well for any non-thinking human,
but not worth the effort.
Tell us your GOOD AUTHORITY and the new network's name, and I'll buy your fable.
In any case, short of God himself being the host (and I don't know
that He has Tim's sense of humor), channel 228, Dish satellite, is
forever gone as my timepiece stop.
You wouldn't believe the hundreds of dollars I've saved these past 3 months.
Calling Tim Temple. . .Where the aitch are you, fella? We miss you.

The guru person seems to think that Tim shouldn't want a good pay
raise and more say about the watch shows.  Surely, I can't be the only
person who remembers that it was to ValueVision that Tim brought the
watch shows.

If not for Tim Temple, who knows?

Originally, there were basically Time Zone and Watch It and Sunday
p.m.'s. Suddenly, the shows were proliferating all over the place with
the dimwits who knew nothing about timepieces hosting them.

Tim wanted a big raise, maybe? So what? Who doesn't? He wanted more
say about HIS shows which had made SNBC megarich. Their error was in
not giving him everything he asked for--or compromise.

Guru--name the network to which Tim's supposedly going.
I dare you.

This response is for adessociao in particular. Boy, I wish you were my
speech writer. I laughed at parts of it until I could regain my
composure. Great job! Speaking of hosts on the watch programs, Shawn
Wilsie should have his own stage name. Perhaps Yawn Wilsie would be
appropriate. Ho hum. I hope ShopNBC is being inundated by eMail
voicing their displeasure of Tim Temple's absence. I think Tim
Temple's face should be on every major billboard in the state of
Minnesota with a title: "We miss you" or something similar. I would
vote to have his likeness added to Mt. Rushmore if there were room.
Also, appreciated vtimelordv's comments.

I thank you ra1941 and am glad i pushed whatever button made you
laugh. Writing is a joy for me; would enjoy writing your speeches; but
we must remember the topic is Tim (about whom i could go on forever).

Man, i miss his mimicry, humor, laid-back air--the posse; awwww, why go on?

Consider this:  Tim has been reading all these thirty-some missives
and decided to join in.  However, he cannot do it as himself, so he
writes as though he were "someone" (guru--Mermelstein's nickname for
Tim, remember?) working at SNBC. He does know EVERYTHING that went on:
where he's going (which contracts would prevent him saying); he knows
why he left but must word it as if he were those who threw him away.
He would prob. know what's going to happen at SNBC through any friends
he may still have there, in whatever capacity that person may be.

How's that for a devious mind? It IS plausible though, right?
What bothers me, and you and all of us who lived for his shows, is HOW
IN THE HELL WILL WE EVER FIND HIM AGAIN?  Any ideas?

Poor Shawn is all i can say.     Too, he'll never talk; "mgt. wouldn't like it."

Don't delude yourself about one thing:  if every bloody person "on the
planet"--recognize that?--emailed SNBC about wanting Tim back, do you
really think they'd give a rodent's rear?  THEY GOT RID OF THAT ONE
PERSON WHO MADE THEM WHAT THEY ARE! WHO BROUGHT THEM ALL THEY ARE NOW
USING TO THEIR "advantage". Sorry; tend to lose it when i consider the
audacity of them and their treatment of Tim.

Tim had to have things pretty much in place before he walked. Remember
his 2 "vacations" to Wisconsin, oh, back in the springtime? I now
wonder if they were meetings to set things up for what was to come.

Timelord's got my vote, too.         Unfortunately, we're screwed
until somehow we discover where his new "home" will be (bet he thought
SNBC was a second home, too).   PLEASE throw out any ideas you or
others may have on that subject.  Hope to read you soon again.

Trying to be succinct, unlike adessociao and timelord (both of whom I
enjoy tremendously for their right-on observations):

Did you notice that herplover (somewhere in the middle of this list)
called Tim Temple INEPT?????????????????  INEPT? Forgive her, Lord.

Timelord has to be right about Tim being guru:  who else would also
speak so eloquently about his and Eyal's rapport?

Any comments out there?
Wish more would come back and add further comments.

Hey ra1941--If you really want some laughs by your 2 favorite writers
on this page, go to www.where-to-surf.com and read the list, but
especially the ones near the end between guru01 and Irritated/Still
Irritated.

Am surprised SNBC allows this.

well, everyone's vented his feelings and neen-ga must be pretty
frustrated that his question brought him absolutely nothing.
everyone has speculated, that's all.
wish Tim had answered--yeah, right.
nobody knows nuthin'--zero, zip, zilch   only with luck will we ever
come across THE watch guy   this oughta make your day: what if your
cable co./satellite dish DOESN'T CARRY this supposed new network? 
how's that grab you?
screw the world, i want to get off

Received letter from ShopNBC CEO, William J Lansing, yesterday. I quote:
"Tim is a unique individual.  Tim wanted to move on and do some things
for himself and we have to support him in that decision. . . ."

So, that's that.
Absolutely NO ONE will ever tell us the big WHY, WHY, WHY did Tim
"chose to leave" or "want ... to move on".

All I can hope is that he'll be an on-air personality again. But,
where, only God knows.
Unfortunately for us, he could stay in arranging and producing music.
With his brilliant mind, he could go in any direction he chooses, but,
nasty thought, he'll prob. go the most-money way. Just hope it's in
timepieces and on-air and our cable company carries whatever station
it turns out to be.

Ah, hell

Apologies for adding to the supositions, but I just found this "answer."

I've never been a huge fan of Tim's; not a watch freak. And I tended
to avoid Kendy's shows.

But I very much miss Karen Connelly (cannot STAND Lynn S.)

I'm pretty Karen's departure was unplanned at least, because Laura
Dufek was talking about Karen's 50th Bday celebration coming up in the
very near future and all the plans the hosts had to give her a bad
time about reaching that milestone.

I think Karen was very excited about the upcoming SYK anniversary too,
and that is this week, but just as Sincerely Yours with no mention of
Karen.

To the folks who posted the www.where-to-surf.com site, I've looked
there and couldn't find any message board.  :-(  Any further pointers
appreciated.

Hi!  Please forgive any errors I may make as this is my first time
using this service.

Tim, Karen & Kendy all left of their own accord!  I cannot verify if
Kendy will, but Tim and Karen left for a NEW shopping network.  It
will be at least 6 months before it will be up and running.  'The
Posse' (watch people know I mean Michael Friedman) is the source of
the information, and I told him I would NOT spread it around, but he
said I had his approval, as it is not 'gossip'.  If he gets more data,
I will post it, but...................

Shawn Wilsie:  Never a favorite of mine!  We have been corresponding
since Tim left and Shawn took over.  This is no small task, as you
well know. It took him until Sunday's show to really get into the
groove.   He is the most knowledgable person on ShopNBC, and what I
like is that he will say when he does not know something, will check
and then reply.  ALSO, SHAWN HAS SAID FROM THE FIRST DAY WE CONVERSED
THAT HE APPRECIATED THE E-MAIL I SENT, AS I CORRECTED AN ERROR HE
MADE. Shawn said to please continue, as that is the only way he can
keep getting better.
I,personally, was the topic of conversation on last Sunday's LATE show
with Shawn and Eyal Lalo.  During the afternoon show, Eyal said
Invicta made 3 meteorite watches:  Acero, Lupah & SubAqua.  I e-mailed
Shawn, as Eyal left off the 4th watch.  It is the Speedway.  Shaw
e-mailed me immediately after the late show as he brought my e-mail
on-air and gave it to Eyal who, unknown to Shawn, read it out loud,
on-air.  Eyal said 'He's right.  Thgere are four but I don't think it
is the Speedway.  All of a sudden Shawn said a light went off in
Eyal's head, and said I was correct.  Apparently "THANK YOU, LANCE!"
was repeated quite often.  He even told Shawn that I should be sent a
gift.  I already have the Invicta jacket, but one of the NEW Invictas
debuting next month would be nice. -;)
BTW: A certain host scheduled a vacation and when he refused to change
it to meet with a watch vendor, he was told he was OFF the 'YOU MUST
WATCH WATCH SHOW' (sorry......... couldn't remember exact show name,
but it was the one done by Kerry McNally (UGH!).  Talk about a BAD
host, especially on watches, I wrote to Angela Ackerman, and then her
supervisor, Laura Elhard of The President's Office at ShopNBC.

Karen Connelly:  Karen and I go back to the CVN days when she and her
ex-, Skip, hosted Coffee With The Connellys every Sunday morning, and
those of you who remember this, CVN paid $2.00 to anyone who spoke
on-air!  I still own the record of 102 times on-air, as I was buying
coins like crazy at that time!  I lost Karen's phone number when I
went from a daily planner to a PDA, which I hate to death!  I still
have her old number, from her CVN days, and asked Anna of Limited
Editions, the vendors of Sincerely Yours, originally Sincerely Yours,
Karen for auction items, but she has not heard a word either.  Neither
Karen, nor Tim are stupid, and they would not leave unless they had
something in the works.  According to the Posse, he could NOT turn
down the offer.

For those who did not know, Skip Connelly left ShopNBC last year to go
back to Florida, as his mother was quite ill.  You can see Skip on
Home Shopping Network.

Kendy Kloepfer:  No verified information, but one has to presume she
is going with Tim and Karen!

I told Shawn that I expected Charla Rines to be the next to leave, but
he assured me she is going nowhere.

Please do keep me, as well as everyone else posted.  I shall do the same!

Any complaints could be sent to lelhard@shopnbc.com or
aackerman@shopnbc.com. Please, respect these people, as they are only
doing their jobs, and they are wonderful at what they do.

Whew! this has to be one of the longest page of answers on Google to a
question that has yet to be answered.
dear lemedecin, authority of all things Tim, Karen, Invicta, Eyal,
Shawn, what can one do but bow before your superior knowledge. Why are
you writing today; why not back when this question was posted?  You
have been told to write? Your first time using this service? Your
errors?  Pul-eeze
These 3 people "chose" to move on--everyone has said that, from the
"toppest" brass [ceo] to us peons.
What neither you, nor anyone else for that matter, has not said and,
ergo, answer the original question is: WHY, WHY, WHY?  Why did they
"chose to move on"? Are they money-hungry, power-mad people who
demanded so much, they were jettisoned?
Tim brought them a show, his baby, that grew beyond their wildest
imaginings; he should have been accorded the respect, wages, and
say-so to which he and any sane person would certainly think he was
entitled.  He sure as h--- brought in the money for them, didn't he,
oh, knowledgeable one.
You're saying Tim is going to find replacement Judah's, Eyal's,
Lior's, etc. for this new station?  Herr Friedman will give to YOU the
name of it, the date it will commence, and the cable companies that
will carry it?
You are in so tight with all peoples connected to our faves, what's it like?
We all knew why Skip left.
One must assume you have EVERYONE'S email address and can chat with
Tim whenever. How's he doing? How're things going for the new station?
Everything pretty much in place, or has he dropped from the sheer
magnitude of going thru all this once again?--although possibly it's a
bit easier the second time around.
Wish you had shown some modesty instead of your grandiose statements
and finger-pointing, by telling us to "be respectful" to those
addresses you afforded us.  Who in the aitch are they, anyhow? Why
should we want to write to them?  And why assume we wouldn't be
respectful?--bah !!!
But, I am not being very kind to you, am i? You see, what have you
actually told us that was not already on this page?  Well, yes, we did
learn how close you are to/with Shawn, Eyal, and Friedman. This info
we didn't need.
ShopNBC certainly could have countered any offers made to Tim and
Karen and given them what they wanted. Instead it chose to go with
mediocrity, newbies, and dull-as-dirt hosts. Something just doesn't
smell right.
Can you get Tim to issue some statement. Of course, we know he
couldn't tell us all--perhaps a small thing verifying your words. 
Sorry, but i never buy anything as gospel unless it comes from the
horse's mouth, and that you ain't--right?
You've ruined my dinner.  It's cold as ice now.  
Should we keep tuning in to this page every day for the next, how many
months, until you speak again? What do you recommend, oh savant?

Dear koshka--Alas and alack, this page is it, to the best of my
knowledge. Wish there were a chat room but, even if there were, it
would still be speculation.  You and I want facts, provable facts;
and, they don't seem to exist.
If Karen's gone to this new station everyone's babbling about, who's
going to tell us when it starts and on what cable network?  Ever
consider yours won't carry it? I have.
This is all very distressing and gets neither you nor I anywhere. Wish
I could help you out. Wish someone could but, if you read all these
comments, you saw there's nothing here to put money on.
I liked Karen, esp. with Lambert Cheng; Tim is my watch guy. I quit
SNBC the day I learned he wasn't on vacation, but had "chosen to move
on".  Must admit I've saved a bundle these past 3 months.
Good luck; if you find anything, please let me know here.

Amusingly enough, byebyett, IMO I kept ValueVision (especially with
the Ramsays) afloat singlehandedly with my purchases.... until my
cable company dropped VV.

I only found ShopNBC by surfing and tripping across [wait for it]
Karen!!! A familiar face pulled me to their network.

I agree with the other posters here that the quality of the
merchandise has dropped lately. Today I heard someone bragging about
how great SI diamonds of H-I color were. Oh please.

BTW, I did figure out how to read the comments at where-to-surf.com.
Pretty funny stuff.

I would wish people "in the business" could comment without hurting
their futures, but that's show-biz. I await developments.

Dear Byebyett:  I never knew this existed until I got an e-mail of
this exact question and answers from the rep. of Limited Editions.
I never said I was speaking to any one of the missing people, and my
reply was based on information Tim supposedly gave to Michael. I had
just received an e-mail from Tim and upon replying I got a form reply
saying Tim, Karen & Kendy were gone!  I have NOT spoken with any of
them since.
                I am not now, nor have I ever been associated with
SNBC, nor am I anyone's puppet, if you please.  The people I told you
about are from The President's Office, and I know we are all furious
with the way ShopNBC has been handling things, and yes, I too said the
station has gone down!  I also miss the good old ValueVision days.
                If I get any information about what station, whenm
etc., I will certainly post it, but I hope everyone here will do the
same.
                Honestly, CVN was the best company around until they
were taken over by QVC who has the highest quality control, IMNSHO,
but the highest prices, as well.  ShopNBC's gold prices are getting
ridiculous too.  I buy on the auction, and you can still get great
buys on the auction, but I am sure YOU know that already.
               This should be a place for sharing information, and not slinging mud.

Byebyett........... Sorry, I forgot to tell you one thing!
                    I only starting to get this channel a few years
ago, but Shawn has been with them since day 1, and sold watches since
they started selling watches.
                    I do not think very many people will disagree
about Tim bringing in the big bucks, but we are all in a business of
one kind or another, and everything, unfortunately, revolves around
the holy $$$$$!  Tim is the person who taught me about horology, and
when he said BUY, I bought.  I got my Quinting for a song, as well as
my Cartier Santos Chrono, VanCleef Music, Gerald Genta, 1st edition
Gevrils, + + + + +.
                    I find it interesting that not one person
mentioned Jeff Hess!  HE IS STILL THE KING OF HOROLOGY, and was on QVC
for a short period of time, but it was a disaster, as they wanted crap
to sell, and Jeff does not fit in with that!  Why don't you write to
him and ask about Tim?  WATCHDUDE, I think is his e-name.

To:  Koshka

You are right.  John and Laura were wonderful.  Have you gone to their
web?  RAMSEYGEMS.com.  The prices are outrageous.

lemedecin--There are many questions in re you and who you are that you
should be getting answers from Anna, rep. of Limited Editions. Perhaps
you don't realize you say things that most of us cannot--like
RECEIVING an email from Tim, that Michael Friedman of the posse is
your source [how do you know him?]and you are important? enough for
him to give you his nod?
You and Karen go back in what way? lost her phone #?  Come on,
fella--we, the little folk, have not this kind of "in", and you know
it.
That's why, in my humble opinion, I think you irked byebyett; it sort
of got to me, as well.
You're right--no mud-slinging but, also, no braggadocio, please. Try
reading your tomes from the "little" guy's side.
You and I have bought some similar brands, S.Coifman is also a fave,
along with Vacheron.
Someone DID mention Jeff Hess at the www.where-to-surf.com site--check
it out; it may even have been I. I wrote him and his answer's there,
somewhere in the list.  But, KING? "aspirant to Temple's throne",
perhaps--no more than.  I first came across him at HSN, last year;
he's gone now, and Lior's brother is there for SWI. Too, he plays a
role in hrWatch magazine.
You have too many connections to be just "Everyman". Tim's personal
email address?  Come on; Imight even kill for it.:)  If you're that
much in contact with him, surely you can give those of us who miss him
so something of what's going on with him?  He's okay?

Well, koshka--I, too, joined ValueVision--those were the good days.
Since I no longer watch SNBC, I was appalled--but, not really
surprised--by what you said you heard about the SI diamonds, etc. 
What's going on at that place I can't figure out.
Seemingly one big dif. between us:  you seem to have the patience to
hope for Karen's face to come "surfing" again; I lack that virtue
entirely.  Without even knowing if our cable or satellite companies
will carry this new network, I'm all but suicidal.
You seem so calm: "I await developments". Coming from where?  sigh

Adessiciao - Huh?  Please re-read my first post.  Nowhere did I say I
had Tim's PERSONAL e-mail address.  If I had it, I'd not be here
trying to find out if anyone has more information.  I e-mailed him at
his SNBC e-mail address.  Karen's number?  True, not fiction.  We were
in contact during the time she was at VVTV & I could not get that
station.
I know these people from phone and e-mail chats.  Usually it is about
a problem with an item.  I have gone through 3 Invicta Lupah 7750's,
and am on my 4th, as all had defects!
I am not the person who sits back and takes crap from anyone, so I
write letters to complain, but also to praise.  It does work well, and
people will usually respect you.  As to my original information, she
and I worked on the same block for awhile, and we had conversations
about one of Karen's rings I bought on auction.
Hopefulloy this will quell everyone's ire.  Again, write to The
President's Office, EVERYONE!  They have got to be told by as many
people as possible that it is going to result in a bigger loss of
members than they already have incurred if they (1) are not more
forthcoming; (2) do not do something about the quality & QA of the
merchandise; & (3) get some decent hosts.  One of the new female hosts
dresses like she should be walking on 8th Avenue!  <Non-New Yorkers
will not get the meaning.  Sorry.>

lemedecin--you mean the one i mentally call "the slut"?  sorry about
the email business; i totally forgot the one we used to use
@shopnbc.com.  You're still a puzzle, sir--"I know these people from
phone and e-mail chats," you say. Our notes are becoming so long i
have to print them out to try and follow. Who are "these people" with
whom you have phone chats? You mean Karen?
No one would ever give out Tim's personal email address unless he had
a death wish.  Six months, perhaps January?, would be about the time
this new station airs. I do know from our local stations that when a
host leaves, his lips must remain sealed usually for at least 6 mos. 
I'm already concerned about what cable and satellite companies will
NOT even carry it.
Can you think of any way at all/any federal source that would know of
new stations? Who does oversee cable companies anyhow?
The chances of it being in MN are minimal, don't you think? So,
according to Tim who's finally settled in one place for longer than 5
minutes, will have to relocate. And, what about his recently completed
studio? Dealing with these things, as well as putting together a new
show, must be a daunting/Hurculean chore, yes?
Think there's any chance of Judah, Lior, David, Eyal leaving SNBC to
follow Tim and Jeff Hess moving in with his own team?  By the way did
you go to the where-to-surf.com site and read Jeff's words? Or, are
you on the phone with him, too?--sigh.:)
Did you read what the CEO, Lansing, wrote to me a few comments above?
What I didn't include were his monetary deals to get me to stick
around and "develop the same kind of bond that you felt with Tim with
some of our other hosts."
We can go on forever, but we're not progressing one iota, are we.
I guess you're sticking with SNBC, while i'm not at all interested in so doing.
I, personally, have contacted all the people and sources (some weird
and far out) I can dream up for info; dead ends everywhere.
I wish Tim all the luck in the world, but can't imagine any way this
new station can publicize itself and Tim's coming, can you.

lemedecin
Am thoroughly enjoying the "comments" you and adessociao have been sharing.
About the Ramseys, with these prices now, one knows why they left
ShopNBC. Do miss his info about aquamarines.
About J Hess: you gave a partial email address--no help; know the @ part?
Karen I liked; found her own style a bit over-the-top (a lot of bling,
as Tim finally brought himself to confidently use) for my wife's
taste.
Tim's a Renaissance man, I think; brilliant in just about any field
you can name, extremely inventive, easily bored, etc. Did you ever
note all the pacing he did during his shows? Juggling a heck of a lot
of balls right now, no doubt--even if he knew months and months before
June that he was leaving.
Have you visited his photography site? 
Having a face-to-face conversation with him must be exhilarating,
informative, and a hell of a lot of laughs. What I wouldn't give for
the opportunity but, I'm with adessociao in that I'll never see the
man again becausse the chances of gettind the new station seem slim,
at best.
Does new station = new network?

And, too, lest we forget:  all 3 of them were probably paid a
considerable amount to keep their mouths shut, shut, shut.
The viewers are of little importance when money's involved.
So, we're screwed.
To:  lemedecin  Why don't you ask Mr. Friedman for at least the name
of this supposed new station/network. Seems to me he didn't tell you
sqat--this new whatever it is has been written of plenty on this page
before you entered the fray.

Hi everyone......OK.....uncle, I give up.  I have gone to
www.where-to-surf.com and I cannot figure out what to "click" on to
see all the comments everyone is talking about, HELP PLEASE.  Thanks
everyone

I have been reading along, after my initial questions, along with
everyone else's, about Karen and Kendy, way back up through these
communications.  Thanks everyone, for your insight on all the hosts. 
With this in mind, I wonder if anyone has any information on what's
happened to Laura Duffek--is she on vacation?  I haven't seen her in
about 3 weeks; she's still listed under the Hosts tab on the SNBC home
page, but I see no program listings for her.  Re:  Karen, Kendy and
Tim, I will keep my ear to the ground, also.  I miss them all, and I
just cannot watch the new hosts.  At this point, if it's not Wes &
Pam, Charla or Lynne, I just can't watch.

TO:  snowlodg--in re www.where-to-surf.com, there isn't anything to
click; it's simply a listing of comments about SNBC.  The ones about
our 3 missing hosts start about halfway down, or so. They provide both
amusement and/or depression, depending on one's attitude/feelings. 
Why not add your own remarks?  There is a place to click for
that--near top of list, i think.
What's of passing interest, is that the site was supposed to go away
the last day of Sept., but i see it's been extended to the end of this
month, or is it Nov.? Have forgotten.
I wonder: does SNBC sponsor it? does it read our thoughts? does it care?

TO dbt:  Was blown away by your remarks concerning Laura. Since I
dropped the show altogether when Tim left and only take a minute's
quick look about once a week, you can see why i wouldn't have missed
her.  She seemed a nice person.
I, too, thought Tim was on vacation; but, when it was going into the
end of the 3rd week, i sent an email to Customer Service asking when
he'd be back. They then gave out the info about the 3 leaving.  Why
don't you write them about Laura?  Tim's name was listed as host until
i reminded them to take it off; however, his picture was gone. Is hers
still there?
The new hosts i've noticed/heard are pathetic.  However, must disagree
with you about Lynne; she gives me a raging headache--always has. 
With you cutting the hosts down to 4 you will watch, you're not
viewing them much either.
A most uncharitable comment from me:  hope SNBC is losing, and
continues to lose, buckets of $$$$$$$ due to their tossing out the
best and hiring mediocrity.
Should you hear anything concrete about the new station/network where
supposedly the others have gone, please let us know asap.  thanks

I too have been a faithful ShopNBC viewer until recently.  Not only
have the hosts undergone dramatic changes, even the items and shows
have become more mundane.  As someone else earlier noted, now Behzad
is gone.  He was one of my favorite guests because of his energy and
enthusiasm.  It seems like ShopNBC is in a downward spiral.  What a
shame.

You know, everyone, perhaps if all these 57 comments could be
transferred to the www.where-to-surf.com site, which, i bet, was set
up by SNBC itself, they'd understand why sales have dropped (I hope).
Maybe we should write there instead of this site.
'course, it makes no difference now, does it, with everyone they
should have kept gone--the twits! It had to be that they could get 10
lousy, new hosts for less than it cost them to keep the cream of the
crop.
Idle thought out of nowhere:  is Bill Fahey still around?

I normally have answered each person's questions individually, but
this is the condensed version.  If I missed anything, I know you'll
tell me.

MY OPINION ONLY! NO FACTUAL BACK-UP!  The new network will NOT be a
NEW network. I havea feeling it will be 'HTN' - Hollywood Treasures
Network.  I watched it for the time it was on-air with Cablevision,
and they did high-end jewelryt and WATCHES! They even did the 'Tim &
Jeff'-style, with USED watches.

Don't complain about the letter received from the CEO.  I did not even get one.

I asked the same question about Laura Duffek.  She is the only one of
the gang left that doesn't give me a migraine or, well, you know what
I am replying to, when I made my 8th Avenue comment, and YES, I agree
with you!

I don't think Michael even knows.  This is the hush-hush deal of the
century, and have you noticed the title of today's shows?  SINCERELY
YOURS,  <Duh!  They forgot to remove it since Karen's name came after
it.>  Also, I find it amazing that the 50h birthday celebration for
Karen turned into a 10 year anniversary for Charla Rines!  They did
that in a big hurry.  Probably to HOPE everyone would forget about
Karen!

While most of us are quick pissed off, I suggest that everyone
continue shopping the auction, eventhough the new format is ghastly! 
You need a magnifying glass to read half of the words.  I have gotten
bargains like crazy.  Just got an 18kt & diamond ring for $1,000.00,
which is retailing between $6,000.00 andover $7,000.00, and a 48 gm.
14kt necklace for $185.00, plus a Bezhad ring with chocolate and white
diamonds, in a HEAVY setting for just over $300.00.

The watches are bargains, as well, if you luck out, and, of cours,e
know your watches and pricing.

As to replacing Lior, Judah, David..... I cannot tolerate any of them!
 Michael is the one decent person, but he refuses to be seen on air!

As to Jeff Hess.........  I think it is WATCHDUDE@aol.com since I
never used anything but WATCHDUDE, so he must be on aol!  Also, search
for HESS FINE ARTS in Florida, and you will get the e-mail address, or
if you purchased the Rolex book several years ago, it is in there, as
Jeff was heavily involved.
 
I know I missed something, but I cannot remember what. 

Oh!  No!  I haven't seen Tim's photo site.  Do you have an addres?

Okay, here goes:  in your first posting you said that Michael had said
it would be a NEW network, at least 6 mos. before it'll be up and
running; ergo, i'm now confused.  By the way, how did you ever come to
know Michael? and "in" i'd like to have.
I am not sure, but wasn't Karen's show called "Sincerely Yours,
Karen"? so, they can still get away with what is now the abbreviated
version.
Not a complaint about the CEO; what I had done was write a scathing
letter about the loss of Tim (rather lengthy), and he replied with the
remarks i think i've already mentioned. Did you "scathe" :) to anyone?
Did the auction give the diamond stone quality, etc.  No, for me, SNBC
no longer exists. Pity, they used to have really quality things
besides the watches, which seemed to be less so a short time before
Tim left, and i wondered what the h--- was going on.
Okay, I'll give you Lior [his brother Isaac at HSN is much better, but
the merchandise . . .], David (migraine time), and Eyal, but JUDAH????
He knows watches, was a riot with Tim, and i got a kick out of his
non-thinking tales of wealthy doings.
Will try the Hess connection; not sure there's a point to it. You
pretty much covered that, didn't you? I wrote [at
www.where-to-surf.com](you gone there yet?) what he told me.
Now 2 questions stemming from ignorance:  Is Cablevision a cable
company? Is HTN a program on it, or what?
As to Tim's photo site, it's:  www.templephotography.com     However,
I learned that the Contact address is incorrect, unless it's been
fixed since yesterday.  It should be: gallery@templephotography.COM 
not NET.  Good luck.
Seems that the 2 of us can rub along; getting better with each
comment. 'til next time.

To snowlodg,

I had trouble finding the comments page too.

If you enter www.where-to-surf.com, it takes you to the main page, BUT
if you click on it from one of the Boxes at the top of this page, it
takes you to the ShopNBC specific comments on the ShopNBC page.

Hope this helps!

From my observations, Bill Fahey is still there. 

And I think my FAVE host is Jolene Benoit, tho she's not as much a
"PERSONALITY" like Charla or Karen.  :-)

I hope Laura is still there, tho I seldom watch in her time slots.

I think the 8th Avenue person is Connie Kunkle. My husband noticed her
"shaking 'em" before I did! LOL

I bought a Gevril and no booklet was enclosed. Tim asked Michael to
call me, and send me one.  Hence, we met by phone.  If you are a
customer and have a question, I am sure Michael will speak with you. 
The phone number is under Sterling-Time.  They recently moved to
Brooklyn, NY, but if you cannot find it go to Auctions, find any watch
showing Sterling-Time, and the number should be at the bottom of the
listing.
Did not mean to confuse anyone re: HTN. I checked with cable, and HTN
was not removed from my line-up.  They stopped airing the program,
which they had hinted about, in order to redo and make a better
network.  Since they sold high-end jewelry and TONS of watches, like
when Jeff Hess was on with Tim *THE GOOD OLD DAYS!".  This is why I
said I had no factual data to back up what I said, but IMNSHO, it
would be a perfect match, especially since their main watch person
knew his product, but lacked the requisite temperament to be a host!
Koshka........ You are a wise person in your reading of people, at
least in the last post you added! -;)
The auction did not give the grade, but a certain 'lady' did give it
when she aired her prducts on SNBC!  <HINT! HINT!>  Mine was graded
VS1/2 - G color, confirmed by a gemologist.
I met some of the people because my office was on the same street as
their offices/factories.... 45th Street, NYC.  Others though e-mails
about problems, or compliments.
No!  I did not scathe.  I gave it up!  It raised my blood pressure but
got me nowhere.  (Well, I'm trying to give it up, to be honest!) 
Angela & Laura from The President's Office, are not people I would
ever blast.... especially Angela.  She is a really wonderful person,
who does what she promises, and hoes above and beyond the call of
duty!  I am e-mailing them about the CEO letter that only certain
people were given!

Thanks to whoever sent me to where-to-surf.com!

They noted that Bezhad Sarhady is gone!  <His name is no longer shown
under Dreams Of India, and his photo has been removed.>

I e-mailed Angela to see what the truth is.  Will advise when I hear from her.

Lura's name is still showing as a host, so ?????????????????

Thanks to whoever sent me to where-to-surf.com!

They noted that Bezhad Sarhady is gone! This is the first time we can
remember him NOT being present for a major event - even a clearance
event!  <His name is no longer shown under Dreams Of India, and his
photo has been removed.>

I e-mailed Angela to see what the truth is.  Will advise when I hear from her.

Lura's name is still showing as a host, so ?????????????????

'twas i, your fave person, 2 comments above your last ones that sent
you both the surf and tim's photo place.  awwwww, you don't read the
names above the comments?
now, you'll be able to converse with him again. i recd. the info on
size and cost quite promptly.

Just read this at Where-to-surf, written by Mags:  "Laura Duffek has
also left ShopNBC. The new shopping channel is referred to as
ISS--International Shopping Source and will be based out of Minn.,
possibly Wis. and will go live sometime early in the year.  Karen
Connelly resigned, as did Tim and Laura. ...chatter out there that
Carmela, Kendy, Karen, Tim, and Laura will be going with the new
network. . . ."
Why wasn't it posted here? Remember when you read the whole thing
there, it mentions Wisc., which is where Tim went a couple of times
before leaving. I wonder if it was to finalize the new setup.
Does anyone know if ISS is a station that only certain cable companies will carry?
Are the claims made by Mags to be believed? Again, I never believe
"reliable sources" unless I know who it is--not some anonymous person.

OK, so everyone we love is leaving and going somewhere else.....I live
in Wisconsin and there are only two possible cities for this new
shopping channel  and those are Milwaukee or Madison, I doubt anyone
would put a new channel in Green Bay or LaCrosse and those cities are
the four largest.
Where ever our hosts end up I can only hope they bring Bezhad, the
Ramseys and others we no longer see. The only thing I have been
purchasing from SHOPNBC is Isomers products.....and even with that you
can buy direct from Isomers for the same price.  I knew when
ValueVision became ShopNBC it was a matter of time before people would
leave.

From Karen's website (www.karenconnelly.com) 

"I would like to clarify a couple of issues.  First of all, my name,
Karen Connelly and the name of my line, Sincerely Yours, Karen are
trademarked and are owned solely by me.  All of the jewelry that you
see with that name on it was conceived, designed or selected by me and
at this time, and in fact, for the next several months, I am not
releasing any new product for sale on television.  Sorry about that!

And just to set the record straight, I resigned from ShopNBC on July
23rd, 2004.  I am now honoring my noncompete agreement.  I have not
retired from the television shopping industry and my health is fine. 
I am very touched by all of your concerns and miss you all very much."

Can't get much more from the horse's mouth than that.

Oh rats, my bad,

www.karenconnelly.info

I need more coffee.

The MEMOS are goin to fly tomorrow!
Sean finally said that he was selling Swiss & other high-end watches
since the early 90's, before (hesitation) someone else came along.
I love a good dig!

================================= =========================== ==================
Yes, Tim did go to WI a couple of times in the not too distant past!  

Bezhad's name was deleted at least 3 or 4 weeks ago.  I just never
gave it any thought until it was mentioned here.

Sorry!  I will read the names at the top of the posts!  I can only
claim that I am tired!  I have been keping my eyes open with tooth
picks!  I am involved woith large breed (dog) rescue, and aside from
my own 5, and the 2 I am fostering, I am also fostering an Irish
Wolfhound. She came to me when she was 2-1/2 weeks old, and I had to
feed her every 2 hours, starting out with an eyedropper.  My deaf Dogo
Argentino, who we call SLUGGER (as he does it!) has become her
personal bodyguard whenever she is in the cradle!  No, I am NOT crazy,
just a dog lover.  Think about (2) 178 lb. each Great Danes, 104 lb.
deaf Dogo Argentino, 115 lb. Akita Inu, 180 lb. Cane Corso + the
twins, Great Danes - now 10 months old, and the baby.

Thanks, everyone, especially adessociao, lemedecin, snowlodg and
koshka.  I am both very sad to read that Laura Duffek and Behzad have
left, but also excited about the possibility that all of those folks
may someday, and hopefully, soon, be coming back to us; and hopefully
I'll be able to get this new channel, whenever it pops into existence.
 Sincerly Yours w/o Karen had some beautiful pieces Saturday--all that
work she put into it . . . I really felt a big gap without her, there.
 Chuck Clemency, Offerings and Isomers are all I've got left, although
I did purchase some Tiffany-style lamps from Margie a while ago; they
were very nice.  I will send an e-mail to SNBC to let them know how
disappointed I am, but I am not expecting anything back; they still
have not returned my first e-mail, or my question about Laura's
absence, when I needed to call customer service last week.
For lemedecin--great job!  I am an animal lover, too--I've got 1 OES
(Old English Sheepdog) and 4 cats--would like to help with your big
dog rescue, but I travel a bit, right now, and have put off getting a
2nd dog until a better time.  Keep up the great work, and thank you,
all.  I hope they keep this site up for a while longer, until we can
get solid info on where and when to look for our favorite hosts and
vendors.

Snowlodg, good to read you again; could you somehow
email/phone/whatever your cable company and see what, if anything,
they know? There has to be some place on this planet that is in charge
of cable cos. and the shows they carry. I'm starting to wonder if S.
Behnam and/or Offerings will be around much longer. I'm a buyer of
neither, but everyone else is disappearing. ValueVision was so much
better an outfit than SNBC. Lemedecin, Tim wasn't first host of
watches? Assumed he was because they gave him the major air time for
timepieces. However, it must have been he who first brought about the
Posse and his guests--Judah, etal. I've gotten the sad feeling at
times that you didn't particularly care for Tim. Did you reach him at
the photography site? Tell him about these 2 sites? Ask him if he read
them?  Of course, the man's the consumate actor/liar, so who can put
trust in his answers. Your life is interesting, dif.--no office kind
of stuff, I guess.
Bottom line:  ISS may, or may not exist; it may, or may not, be in 1
of 2 cities; we all must wait. How/when will we KNOW?  It may, or may
not, be Jeff Hess who comes in as new watch host; Jeff Hess may, or
may not, co-host with Tim at the new station which may, or may not,
exist.
Everything's "on good authority", "from the Posse", or "...I don't do
that" [spell out the who's].
You think about it, koshka's submitted comment from Karen C. herself
is the one and only horse's mouth (sorry, Karen) comment we have in
this list of 70+ comments.
Is anyone else growing weary, discontented, disappointed, frustrated as aitch?

vtimelordv - Boy did you read me wrong!!  I could not thing of anyone
I liked and respected more than Tim!  I did e-mail him, and IF I hear
from him, I will advise.
             Shawn Wilsie is, for the time being, anyway, the major
watch show host, and I feel he deserves to be given a chance to earn
each person's respect.  He has already earned mine.
             Shawn is with VVTV/SNBC 13 years.  Tim was about to
celebrate his 6th.  Watches were sold on VVTV from day 1 (almost!) and
Shawn was the watch show host until Tim came along.  Since I did not
get the channel back then, I cannot say who brought in who, as far as
watch people, but the shows statred going down hill when Jeff Hess
disappeared, which was not even told to Tim, in advance of Jeff's
sudden departure.  The woman who replaced Jeff, the PRINCESS, was
yucky, and most of the vendors they are using now leave much to be
desired, as do the watches they are trying to sell.
             Has anyone else had problems with Invicta?  Not only do
they ship out watches that are defective, but their service plant is
pathetic. When I got back one of my Lupah 7750's, as the winding stem
broke offf, they not only put the back on upside-down, but they left a
piece of the stem inside, and the rotor moved only if the piec e did
not get stuck in the gears.  I still have a problem with the 4th 7750,
and Michael said to send it to him as it must be a watchmaker who
recalibrates the chrono dial on this movement.  He sent me the
booooklet on the 7750, plus a 4 page list & diagram of the parts that
make up the movement, and where they all go.  OY!

           I have heard nothing yet from the last e-mail to The
President's Office, but when I do, I will post it.

<PLEASE ADOPT A PET!  DO NOT BUY ONE IN A PET STORE!>

Was interested in your relating the history of VVision in re the watch
dept. I found it by accident just about the time Tim showed up (tho I
didn't know it). Were Tim and Jeff co-hosts, or had he left by the
time of Tim's arrival. I only know the man from seeing him a few times
at HSN (a site I forget exists); he's left there, too. I sensed, from
Tim's not-really-funny remarks which the TPTB heard about, that he
wasn't thrilled, especially when some of the brands he started showing
kept him from being what he was when a George J. showed
up--enthusiastic. He was so excited about Nicolet and Android--the
whole gamut. But Via Spiga? Please!
You have any idea who makes Calibre--thought maybe Clerc, but Tim
didn't answer me when I emailed him that. Tim can be difficult--a
royal pain, I bet, to mgt.  Still wonder why Shawn was shoved aside if
he was watch host from the start.
I do think that what Judah was bringing in was quite good--until
earlier this year. But, isn't it the Posse that gives him the goods to
show?
Yes, I've had Invicta problems--not to your horrendous extent, but
maddening all the same. No one cares, but I'm Lupah-ed out; sick of
the bloody things and tiring of the brand itself. You have to redo the
watch??? OY VEY, doesn't even begin to cover that.
I hope Shawn does well; but, I won't be a part of it because I no
longer watch SNBC. Wonder if the poor guy's been inundated with emails
as Tim was. Please do let me, too, know if/when you hear from Tim. Did
you order a photo or just a friendly email (I know, it's none of my
business at all--sorry)?  Maybe he doesn't want to go back to tons of
emails again; who knows.
Would love to adopt, but a dog deserves the space it needs and here
it's too limited. Too, being away so much--I will not let a dog be
alone or spend its life in a kennel somewhere. I have been a dog lover
all my life, but...maybe one day.
Don't know if you ever caught the remark Tim made about Beethovan his
dog? I imagine--probably wrongly--its the image of the movie's
Beethovan.
Too many questions and only Karen's reliable fact/answer. Wonder if
the person who asked the original question here ever dreamt what it
would bring in comments. He's still awaiting AN ANSWER! but, who
isn't? The speculation is running rife.

I AM FURIOUS! I typed an entire comment & good, old, reliable AOL crashed!
Please foregive any missing replies to your comments, Byebyett.  Just
post them again, and I'll reply.
1. Tim always LIKED George J. VanBurgh.  I never heard a bad word
about him, the brand, or Stuhrling, for which they are the (I believe)
European reps.
2. Guru1 has most of the data posted 100% correct. I cannot, under
penalty of death, reveal exact details.
3. Shawn started out 13 years ago on VVTV with David Mermelstein as
the only brand for sale, basically.  Tim joined 6 years ago, so no way
he could have originated the show. Shawn was happy to become #2 on
watches, as he likes diversity, and he sold jewelry, gems &
electronics - quite happily!
4. Calibre is NOT Clerc!  I believe it is connected to the brand, with
the same name, that makes cigarette lighters, but you can try
www.calibrewatches.com (or use the proper suffix for its country of
origin; i.e.: CH for Switzerland). But it is a cheap brand.
5. Tim was the host, and Jeff Hess, the vendor!  He was never an
employee of VVTV.  He was also on QVC, as well as HSN.  He is gone
from all now, and we can only hope he shows up on the new channel, if
it gets up and running.
6. Tim was annoyed that the Quinting shows was squashed, and some others, as well.
7. You are 100 % right about Veethoven and Tim!
8. You are 100% correct about having a dog. You must be an animal
lover, or you would not have written what you did!  BRAVA!
   I had to apply for a variance as I am only allowed 4 dogs in my
village.  I paid the fees, went to the meetings, and got it. 
Eventhough I own 5, Oreo & Sniuckers will soon be mine, so I wil lhave
7.  That is what the cariance is for.  Luckily I found out that a
friend of mine loves Irish Wolfhounds, and he was approved to adopt,
so my baby will be leaving this weekend.  Slugger will NOT be happy! I
kept a 160lb. St. Bernard here for 3 months. A wonderful, elderly
couple from a few blocks away had a 7yo. named Bernie. When the
husband had a stroke, I told the wife I would keep Bernie until the
husband returned. On one of the final walks Bernie and I took before I
brought him home, a little dog followed us.  Candy, as she was named,
is a 2yo Staffordshire mix. What a mush! I fed her, and temperament
tested this 'throw away' dog who was fully trained, and allowed me to
take her food and bowl from her as she ate.  I fed her a little by
hand, and then gave her back the bowl.  Well, she is now Bernie's
little sister.  They are inseparable, and when she took Candy to be
spayed, Bernie went nuts at the vets. office.  She called me.  I ran
over, and Bernie ran to me, grabbed my wrist, and dragged me to the
door where he last saw Candy!  I took him back, although the
receptionist protested.  TOUGH LADY! You fight with the dog, not me. 
As soon as he saw all was well with Candy, he took me by the hand, and
home we went!  Nobody else can take Candy away from him but me. 
Strange, but......  When I originally brought Candy to the people, she
gently put her paws on the husband's leg, and her head on her paws.  
She went to the side affected by the stroke, and he moved his hand
slowly, and began to pet her.  She crawled into his lap, and as they
say, that is all she wrote!  Bernie was never jealous, and he has
regained his youth having a young, active dog around him!

lemedecin--Many, many thanks for the watch show history; were Tim and
Jeff a good team? Their personalities seem like chalk & cheese. It's
catching, I guess; mine crashed last week. The only question I asked
that you lost was the one about the Posse--isn't it they who "supply"
whatever Judah shows? Who else has access to any of the brands? Man,
how I'd luv to have been a fly on the wall for these 13 yrs.
Both Tim & Judah were bound by the same pain of death as you, I guess,
for them in revealing the Calibre connection--only the clue that it's
made by one of the 3 brands that are located where Clerc is--which, by
the way, I bought. And, the way David M. goes on and on, I assumed he
came with Tim--way, way, way too much bling with Croton (raging
headache time betw. the merchandise and the no-stopping-the-sales
pitch) for me. The man's only 5 or 6 yrs. older than Tim--was
surprised at that.
Do you think Shawn will be #2 again when, whoever takes over? They are
bringing in a "Tim" replacement?  I only hope Shawn doesn't mind this
happening again to him.
I agree with you ab. Tim losing Quinting; unlike him, I'm not a lover
of a multitude of complications. Who in the h--- ended that brand and
the others? For me, it always seems to come back to the Posse; but, I
think you know the truth there.  S Coifman, first-generation Gevril,
Bruguet are just 3 of my faves. Must include Stuhrling.
Am mad for horses and dogs; cats I loathe--unless you're talking the wild ones.
Good lord, wherever do you live that you refer to it as a village!
Irish Wolfhounds--ahhhhhhh, there's a breed! Great tale ab. Bernie and
Candy; didn't know whether to laught or cry.
I will certainly appreciate it if and when you can say anything should
you hear from Tim. Poor guy--just finished his music studio, too; but,
making the almighty dollar rates high and, if he does get more
say/power ...
Your dogs' name are great! Keep up the fabulous work.

Byebyett.......... Tim and Jeff were a match made in heaven!  Jeff
brought tons of vintage stuff, and as you probably know, is one with
tons of knowledge, especialy on Rolex!  His books ouwl dnot have been
published (his or those he controibuted to!)
                   IF anyone were to be brought in to run the watch
shows, I am sre Shawn would love to go back to his prior position. 
Hey, as long as Kerry McNally is dumped, I don't care if hey bring in
a Gorilla as the host! I cannot tolerate Kerry.  He is arrogant, and
puts on airs when he does not know the material.  I e-mailed that to
the President's Office, along with my comments on Connie Kunkel
(koshka.... yhou get it?) and the new GIA certififed gemologist host,
who I think is doing a great job!
                   When I said VILLAGE, it is because I live in a
village, which is part of a town, which is part of a county just
northwest of NY City, and they have ridiculous rules. My area has the
toughest zoning. When I wanted to sell my house, the broker said it
would be great for a doctor.  It is close to the hospital, and has a
full, mostly above ground basement.  Well, guess what!  Since the only
methods of egress are the garage and the steps up to the main floor,
it is not legal to put an office downstairs.  Apparently there is a
difference between a basement & a cellar, and I have the one that is
unacceptable.  If someone applied for a variance, and installed stairs
to the outside, then perhaps, but I doubt it.  They stopped gibing
them out 5 years ago.
             Back to the subject of watches......... Michael does
provide a great amount of the watches, but remember you have SWI
manufacturing MAGICO in the East!  Croton, from who knows where, and
frankly, I don't care! They are not my cup of tea, either.  CZ's and
crystals are not appealing to me.  My  2 diamonds watches are 1.05
cts. and 4.40 cts., and, IMNSHO, not as garish as  anything by Croton.
             Back out of watches........ We should have known
something was up when Samuel Benham started supplying a ton of
diamonds to the show.  Dreams Of India was the stud & tennis bracelet
sole-supplier.  If you noticed Tim's ring - which he was banned from
wearing, as SNBC was not selling it, was made by amuel Benham, as were
a ton of men's jewelry including bracelets. Based on the quality,
color, cut and carat weight, they are overpriced, and they are very
low on the totem pole on these categories, for the most part.
            For those who are neumismatists, as I am, when Bill Gale
left, the show was awful, and now that he is back, and thankfully,
David Levine, has come on board, things are better, but Bill is not
selling the quality of merchandise he was originally, but that is
based on SNBC's orders. I knew him from CVN, which, as you know is how
I know Karen, and I started buying directly from Bill. He had a
standing order to send me whatever I should have!  I am only missing
one coin to make my US gold set complete, and I will never have it! 
The $4.00 coin is rare and EXPENSIVE (an understatement)!

Please clickon the 'where-to-surf.com' link above and read the posts
by Koshka and yours truly.  They are succinct, to the point!

Something wierd's going on at this site.  Yesterday, I read a message
from neen, the one who asked the original question; TODAY IT'S NOT
HERE! Neen's fed up with us using this site as a chat room--which
seems to have happened, hasn't it?  He/She talked about closing this
down.
Someone, timelord?, don't recall now, responded to neen with a: yes,
you prob. should close.  THAT TOO IS GONE!
Over at the Surf site, they're removing statements as the put in new
ones. It's apparently limiting what they'll put. Something I wrote
just before koshka and lemedecin is gone!
When all this began all of us were shocked, dismayed, and sad the 3
had disappeared; now, we've moved to frustrated, disappointed, and
maybe a tad angry at being unable to make any headway.
Perhaps I'll open another question site to keep this going if our
remarks are being deleted here, or it shuts down. What do you think?
Lemedecin--DO SOMETHING! Say something! Counting on you.

Just remembered I did put out a question called NEW SHOPPING CHANNEL?
Does anyone know anything about a new channel--ISS . . .?  If needs be
and this site closes we can switch to that, can't we?  Or, are we all
a bunch of twits?
Me, I need closure--which means real answers which we'll NEVER get
from SNBC or, prob. the departed hosts.
Lemedecin--didn't know Behnam made Tim's ring; wasn't there supposed
to be another version coming up/before this debacle?  I think Behnam
and the Offerings couple are also gone.

It occurred to me that we might want to form a yahoo group (ooooh
google competition!!) where we could ramble on a bit more AND keep the
questions open until resolution.

When I was searching for answers about Karen, et al, I looked for a
yahoo group about ShopNBC. I did find one for fans of Pamela McCoy.

I wondered if ShopNBC would start pressuring where-to-surf to remove
the negative comments since they sponsor that site.

Tsk tsk, if they did apply pressure to stifle our comments.

IIRC, Neen wasn't threatening to close the thread, but only asked that
we stay on topic. Dog and Variance/home office topics seemed to be
irksome to him/her, and I can't disagree with that.

I took my own advice and started a yahoo group at
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyond_shopnbc/

I've never done this before, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Please
join and lets keep this going even if google is forced to pull the
plug on this thread!

First, please accept my apology for getting way off track of this site!  Sorry.

I will follow you, byebyett & you, koshka, wherever you go, as long as
I am invited.

I think you are correct that we need a new forum, and I am going to
check out the new yahoo group... IF I CAN REMEMBER MY NAME & PASSWORD
on Yahoo Groups!
(Early seinilty!)

Am I totally nuts, or did they edit our notes?  (That was rhetorical!)

I just realized that all of the web sites are now in blue, underlined
and are links. I do not remember them being this way a couple of days
ago!

lemedecin:  yes, you are starting to crack--lack of sleep 'cause of
Candy etal. those sites have been in blue from the start--don't sweat
it. am going over to Yahoo, too. name and password will also be issues
for me; may have to invent new stuff.
I'm more concerned about comments disappearing from this site. Think
you and I may be only watch people at Yah. Wonder if vtimelordv and
adessociao will follow.  See you there soon.

How do i join you who may go to Yahoo? Will I have to go thru the
entire setup procedure they have; I haven't a clue how/what to do?
Come one lemedecin help me out here, svp.

Here it is in print:
PTI[ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 06, 2004 01:46:46 PM ] 
MUMBAI: SB&T International Ltd on Wednesday said International
Shopping Source Inc, USA (ISS) has agreed to source gem set jewellery
from it which could provide the company with revenues between $25-30
million in 2005 increasing to a recurring annual turnover of $75
million per year from 2007.

ISS & SB&T intend to enter into a strategic alliance through which
SB&T would become a primary worldwide supplier of gem set jewellery to
ISS, as well as have the first right of refusal to manufacture gem set
jewellery for the US entity sourced in India, SB&T informed the Stock
Exchange here.

The company would enhance its manufacturing facilities from the
current size of 11,000 square feet to almost 40,000 sq feet, it added.
 
 I wonder if this could be the horses mouth!!!!

yes, could be the proverbial "mouth"; however, we're assuming the
hosts are going to ISS, but we do not seem to know where it's located
or if it is already up and running.  does  gem jewelry include
watches? which have been my pull to VV/SNBC.  it's a possible start,
but still a lot remains unknown.

Salve!

Studio italiano! Scrivo abbastanza bene, capito meglio. Comunque non
mi piace parlare. Mio marito ed io siamo andati in Italia questa
primavera scorsa! Che bella!

To answer your question, I think you need to create a yahoo ID to join
yahoo groups but I believe all the messages are set to be readable by
the general public.

Please do join us! it's at http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyond_shopnbc/

Maybe this is part of the trail of secrecy?  Who knows . . .
www.GeraldOnline.com -- the new concept in Jewelry Retailing
International Shopping Source (ISS), Inc USA has agreed in principle
with SB&T International Ltd (SB&T) for jewelry outsourcing agreements
for India.  SB&T International Ltd is one of the fastest growing
jewelry manufacturers and exporters in India (Behzad, the vendor at
ShopNBC for gold/diamond/gemstone jewelry and Lucien Piccard Watches
has also left ShopNBC and is no longer listed on their website.  Maybe
this is why??).  SB&T has an exclusive deal to supply
www.Geraldonline.com direct, meaning that the savings can be passed on
directly to the customer.

Jianders......... You failed to mention that they are in LONDON, England.
All prices quoted are in Pounds Sterling.

Yes, I know.  But QVC is also in England.  I don't know if it has
anything to do with it at all, but it is possible that they could be
planning to come to the U.S.  Who knows . . . only guessing.  Have a
good weekend.

Why do I have a sinking feeling that the McCoys have just joined the
exodus?  There was no mention of them being off this past week, yet
they were not there.  All we got was Connie Klunker and that one who
used to be a singing star in Japan (Ms.
Let's-say-something-not-real-nice-about-the-merchandise).  Thank
goodness Charla was on yesterday or else I would have watched HSN.

If it has not already been mentioned here, is Dreams of India going as
well?  I notice they did a clearance without Mr. Sahady or however you
spell it.

I've been suspicious of ShopNBC ever since the Ramseys suddenly
disappeared.  After the events of the last two months, I soon may not
be watching anymore.  And to think I dropped Comcast because they
dropped ShopNBC, and got satellite instead just in time to see this
mess!

Oh, yeah, Bezhaad's long gone.  Why not join the Beyond the ShopNBC
group over at Yahoo and get opinions, facts--sorta, and all kinds of
good stuff?

Here's some info and comments for what their worth:
1. I wrote to Time Warner Cable, my cable company, and they do not
know of any new channels coming onto their network.
2. Bezahd has an office in the US called SNB at 221 S. Voss, Suite
101, Houston, TX  77057.  His phone there is 800-478-5710.  This
office handles customer service for his jewelry.  Maybe someone else
would like to call.
3.  When Karen was on air at Shop NBC, she always talking about
building a new house.  That was still in progress , at least, when she
left.  Laura Duffek said on the air she was building (or built) a
house in the same development.
4.  Kendy has a family and it's not so easy to pick up and just leave.
 I'm sure her husband works in the MN area and cannot just move.  So
she's a good candidate for a new channel.
5.  These comments lead me to believe if there is a new shopping
channel, it would be in the MN area.
6.  No new business enterprise that deals in retail sales would miss
out on the Christmas selling season.  It makes no sense to start a new
channel in January after everyone has spent their money on Christmas. 
A shopping channel gears up for Christmas now, as is QVC, to make its
largest percentage of yearly sales in this season.
7.  The Bezhad merchandise is all clearance stuff.  Shop NBC has to
clear out and get back its huge investment in merchandise bought from
Bezhad.  They are losing money with it sitting in their vaults.  The
same with SYK.  That jewelry was well-made but way over priced.  And
although I like Karen, some of her designs were not that mainstream. 
there's a lot left in the clearance section;check it out.  Shop NBC
has so much money tied up in old merchandise, it HAS to clear out the
old to get in the new in time for Christmas. Watch for a big clearance
sale any day now.  Vendors sell their stuff to Shop NBC; it's not a
consignment arrangement.

I was/am in the jewelry business for over 20 years.  I watch Shop NBC
to see what people are buying.  It's unbelievable the prices people
pay for commercial quality goods.  And when there are diamonds
involved, they are small, pave and low quality like I1,I2,I3 and H-I
color.  Jewelers always considered that to be commercial goods that
would sell in a Walmart, Service Merchandise and other low-end
discount merchandisers.   Have any of you been to any of the gem shows
the Shop NBC hosts have been to?  I have.  What I see there is not
what they are selling you.

I got my GG certifice 10 years ago, although I am out of the jewelry business now.

Coulnd't agree with your comments more!

If you go to http://answers.google.com/answers and search the words
"new shopping channel" (in quotes) it should pop up.

or you can just go to: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=409636

Koshka

Doh! and I meant to post that last comment at where-to-surf.com Sorry

Neeen:  thanks so much for your advice regarding jewelery.  It was
very kind of you to take the time to educate some of us "newbies!"

Thsi is my first post here, so bear with me please ....
    I sure have learned a lot about the downhill fall of SHOPNBC from
this group! I rec'd a letter from the SHOPNBC CEO, "Wm J Lansing,"
with regards to my emails about my disappointment with Karen & Kendy
leaving.  He included discount cooupons in his letter. I dont think
I'll be using those coupons, as SHOPNBC is beginning to resemble a
version what it would be like to shop WalMart on TV.  I cant wait to
see the SHOPNBC Hosts on their own shopping channel very soon!
    I read on www.suzannesomers.com, that someone has already seen the
new Shopping Channel with former SHOPNBC hosts Karen & Kendy,
broadcasting from somewhere down the street from SHOPNBC...
(1.) Can anyone here validate the new shopping channel is on the air already?   
(2.) How can I email Karen?  The links on her website dont have an
email address to send to?
(3.) Anyone know yet if DISH NETWORK will broadcast the new shopping channel?
   I'm looking forward to visiting here often to find out when I can
see the SHOPNBC former hosts on another channel very soon!   Thanks.

dogsmom--In regards to the new channel, we've heard it's called ISS
and will be airing from Minneapolis but not until the first of the
year.  Called Dish myself, and they said they know nothing and should
try again near end of December--take that for what it's worth. None of
the hosts who have left SNBC, because of contract clauses, can work
for about a 6 mos. period. Therefore, I doubt very much the truth of
the suzannesomers site.  Karen does not want any emails at this point
due, probably, to the non-disclosure clause.  May I recomment 2 other
sites you may enjoy: the one at the top left of this page called
Wher-to-Surf and to a group started by one of the commenters on this
page:  http://tvgroups.yahoo.com/group/beyond_shopnbc/    I think
you'll enjoy the comments and find many who are in total agreement
with what you wrote here.
There is also an excellent one here at Google Answers: 
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?=409636, which has to do
with what you were asking; pay close attention to what one of the
people lemedecin has to say--seems to know fact from fiction.
This site originally was about the departure of Tim, Karen, and Kendy;
the other Google one is about the New Shopping Channel.  Don't forget
lemedecin's words wherever you run across them at any of the 3 sites.

To: adessociao
Thanks for responding to me.  I forgot to mention some other things - 
I started emailing SHOPNBC customer service several weeks ago, as soon
as I noticed Karen & Kendy were gone, and I was BRUTALLY honest about
my feelings as to how the network was the big loser by letting them
walk out the door.
I rec'd SEVERAL responses from Cust Serv, incl., Cust Serv Mgmnt,
about how there was nothing that could be done, Karen & Kendys minds
were made up, and all would be well at SHOPNBC without the 2 of them.
All of a sudden, I get a letter at home from The CEO with the SHOPNBC
discount coupons, thanking me for my concern about the loss of Karen &
Kendy and for my honest comments, & also explaining they now had GREAT
new on-air talent, and to look for positive changes with the new
on-air talent, etc. etc. (All of which I could care less about)
I also had emailed Laura Duffek and Charla at the same time, as I
recalled them stating several times they were good friends with Karen.
I asked them both to pls forward my emails to Karen & Kendy & that so
many of us missed them a LOT, and it was a HUGE loss to SHOPNBC.   I
got a rather ominous email reply from Laura Duffek stating although
she was happy I was such a big fan of Karen & Kendy & took the time to
write, she could make no further comment as the email I sent to & that
she was responding from, was 'company property,'& to pls not email
again with the same subject matter.  Seemed obvious to me their
SHOPNBC emails are heavily monitored by 'big brother' in corporate
America.  I never rec'd a reply from Charla at all. Next thing we know
-"poof" Laura Duffek is gone as well!
Out of habit I still tune to SHOPNBC, and each day I get more
disgusted with their Mickey Mouse new on-air talent.  Lynne Schaker
annoys the heck out of me. And,I'm sad Behzad is now gone as well.
Their new programming and products resembles more what it would be
like if WalMart had a shopping channel...
I bought my 10 yr Diamond Wedding Anniversary ring from SHOPNBC/Laura
& John Ramsey a couple yrs ago, and its a beauty! Their
www.ramseygems.com website is pricey, wont be visiting there too
often.  Although, I did receive a nice email from the Ramseys quite
some time ago, when I inquired on their site at that time why they
hadnt been on SHOPNBC for a while?  They stated "their business was
going through change, and they decided they wouldnt be returning to
SHOPNBC, & thanks for my previous SHOPNBC purchases."  (By the way, I
now purchase Laura Ramsey beautiful jewelry from EBAY.)
I emailed DISH NETWORK yesterday about their carrying the alledged new
Shopping Channel "ISS" from either Minn or Wis in the near future,
around the 1st of the year - and I was responded back today as
follows: "We are constatnly looking for new programming to delight our
customers. Check back again towards year end, and if we will be
broadcasting the new shopping network, we should know more then for
you."
* Thanks for the great info here*

hey, dogsmom--i went to Somers site that you provided, but couldn't
find the info to which you refer.  can you say EXACTLY where it is
there?  i see no logic in a SNBC program having any connection to her.
 please, help.

To:  byebyett-ga 
On www.suzannesomers.com, you have to go to CHAT ROOM, and sign in. 
The discussion I discovered was about "how when popular hosts leave
different shopping channels, i.e. when Kathy Levine left QVC, when Dan
Dennis left HSN, everyone thought that was TERRIBLE for QVC/HSN... as
may seemingly be the case with Karen Connelly, Tim, Kendy, Laura
leaving SHOPNBC.  However, the networks always continue on, and sooner
or later all is forgotten about the hosts that left."  Thats where
someone stated they <"alledgedly" saw Karen Connelly on-air recently
at a new/different network, selling jewelry.>
{{{ By the way,... ceo@shopnbc.com = William J Lansing, CEO email, as
it appears on his ShopNBC letterhead.}}}

I would like to know where guru obtained the information regarding a
new, qualified watch show host for ShopNBC ??
Do you know this for a fact?
Are you a watch collector?
Do you frequent watch related web sites & forums?
Can you tell us the new hosts name?
Can you tell us when he/she will be arriving and on air?
Can you tell us if Eyal Lalo was involved in this move?
Can you varify the backgound of this new host?

to dogsmom--there just is no way for Karen to be on air because all
the departed hosts had to sign a non-disclosure whatever and have to
stay invisible in all ways for a 6 month period.
in regards to Lansing:  I wrote, I received, I laughed hysterically.
thank you for the Somers info.

to ellar:   Who Guru is has yet to be determined.  However, in answer
to just about all your questions, all you have to do is go to
shawnwilsie/tv  or his host info site at SNBC.  The new host will
appear this Sunday as "guest" host for the Invicta show. NEVER doubt
the word of ANYTHING offered by either LeMedecin or
Vatenenenfer--their? word can be taken to the bank.
consider these 2 other sites: 
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=409636     
www.Where-to-surf.com    also, you might want to put your 2 cents
worth in if you join up at
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=ShopNBC, which will take you to
the best one called beyond_ShopNBC.

He is a dedicated watch enthusiast.
I was attempting to ascertain if guru might be an acquaintance, or a
fellow WIS.(or even be the new host?) (I would not put this past his
sense of humor)
We have been sworn to secrecy for reasons I can't divulge, but the
knowledge of the new watch show host is unrivalled.
He has a definite association with Eyal Lalo/Invicta
I am new to this format, and won't be a regular participant.
Simply wanted to find out more re. guru
Thanks for your suggestions.

I did notice that Wes was doing a show with Melissa Miner.  They were
professional and low-key together. He said Pam was off for 4 days on a
buying trip.  What appearsed the most out-of-place was a promo by
Chuck Clemency for his upcoming shows.  He has no smile, almost a
monotone voice and almost an angry presence.  Did anyone else notice
this too?  Chuck is not his usual jovial self.  Maybe Shop NBC told
him he's got to do better on goods or prices-- or even worse.

To: W/W/Witch (please get a shorter name!).......... Did you see when
SHE BROKE THE GONG BANGER?  It was a riot!  Would not want to meet hre
in a dark alley!

To: Neeen............ Yes about Chuck, although I have only bought I
item of his, and returned it, as it was ghastly!


To: Ellar................. I think I know who the new host is also.
No, I am not going to name anyone, as I am not looking to start
rumors.  If YOU do know, say who he/she is.  This person is going to
be on-air in 48 to 72 hours anyway!


To:  Addessocaio.........  Danke schoen!

Signed, Not GURU01, but wish I were?

Bitte, mein Herr

After discovering this group about a week ago, I have more
observations about what I've read here, and have observed on SHOPNBC
in recent weeks/months.
     'Melissa Miner' was a host on ShopAtHomeTv (Tennessee)for many
years, and left to become a graduate gemologist. Once she graduated,
she was back at ShopAtHomeTV for awhile as a guest some months ago
with a line of higher end jewelry, she calimed to have designed.  She
vanished from there for a few months, and next thing I know.... she's
a 'guest' on SHOPNBC, and all of a sudden a "HOST" on ShopNBC.
     Considering the type of product on SHOPNBC daily special values,
some of the recent airings of 'costume type jewelery (very low priced,
looking like they came from a Flea Market)' & the products on "GOLD
DAY" today, I'm inclined to believe SHOPNBC has every intention of
going directly after Market Share from that of QVC & HSN. Todays
SHOPNBC Gold Day today was AWFUL! Karen, Kendy & Laura no doubt are
hysterical if they've watched any of it.  Since when has SHOPNBC
started selling "10KT Gold?"  And, some of their products today were
selling for $24.95... which to me, has "compete with HSN" written all
over it!'  I wonder how Wes, Pam, Charla & Jolene are tolerating this
culture shock at their employer?
    Its a real shame if ShopNBC is targeting market share from HSN &
QVC, as VVTV worked really hard over the years to develop a niche
market for high end, high quality, reasonably priced, fine jewelry.
     By the way, while flipping channels over the weekend, I noticed
that HSN was selling "Lucien Piccard" watches, which was the line that
Behzad developed while at ShopNBC, wasnt it?   Go to www.hsn.com, and
type in LUCIEN PICCARD, and item # 521-487 looks familiar to me...
does it look familiar to anyone else?  The rest of the watches are
low-end, under another name for Lucien Piccard.

I looked up Lucien Picard watches as suggested.  I have a feeling
they're from Behzad:  they have the same type of diamond and sapphire
accents as his watches did.  They seemed more expensive than they used
to be on SNBC.  Maybe SNBC refused to increase their prices for these
watches so Behzad left?  Just a theory....I guess as other people
said, we'll never know.

ValueVision equalled quality, high-class, high-end everything for
wonderful prices which couldn't be beat anywhere! The present
merchandise makes me cringe.  Tim couldn't stand the low-end brands he
was being made to sell once NBC got into the act.  I guess SNBC does
want more of the market and decided to forfeit all that VV once stood
for in order to accomplish that end. To hell with the customers!  It's
profit/money that is their be-all. So be it. I quit the station but
for a quicky peek every now and then after Tim and Karen left.
With the shlock they're presently offering, they very well may move in
on HSN territory. I think the original question of this site has
pretty much been answered by now.  They left rather than debase
themselves any further, for better merchandise, and probably much
higher wages.  Bottom line:  I wish SNBC all the worst.

The new watch show host will air late Friday(10/22), early Saturday
(10/23) with Shawn and Eyal Lalo.
His name is Jim, and he is an ex-forum moderator for the world's #1
watch forum web site.
He is moving from Virginia to Eden Prairie as we speak.
Eyal was asked to help provide some "decent, watch knowledgeable"
candidates to the dismal new watch shows since T.T.'s departure. He
had considerable contact with Jim as a moderator for a watch forum
dedicated to Eyal's watches.(This alone will give you enough
information to access the site, find his recent post(s), and THEN
respond, but nothing I can do about that is there?
You still can't provide us his last name. I can.

If adessociao OR guru can tell me/us his last name and the web site he
was a moderator for, I call "Foul".
And if you can and do, I think I know who addessociao is !!

ellar--you are demented   according to the SNBC schedule Shawn will do
a special show with Eyal from 8-9 p.m. Saturday night   the to-be new
host MAY show then, but he's promised for the Sunday 3-4 slot   what
did adessociao say that's making you crazy, anyhow?

ellar--adessociao, here    I gave my word to keep silent and I shall. 
 I have nothing to prove to you, a person playing childish games.  In
the growing hysteria over this person's debut, it seems that all have
forgotten about Tim Temple--remember him?   So, even with the
knowledge that I do have in regards to the upcoming Invicta marathon
and he-who-shall-remain-unknown for now at this site; despite it all,
I wonder how Tim is feeling and thinking right about now.  Too many of
those feverishly awaiting "the big cahoona" have already given me
Tim-who looks; oh, yeah, him looks and words.  I, though, am awaiting
Tim's return to the air. In a million years you couldn't begin to know
who I am; for, am I not a part of the inner circle.  and you?

This has devolved to the level of "I'm smarter than you are, neener neener neener."

Someone at the site I started
(http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyond_shopnbc/) posted the link of
http://www.watchuseek.com/invictaforum/ and directed folks to look for
the posts of Oompalupah who says he's the guy.

Don't know, don't really care. Not a watch person.

But this whole "I know, but I can't tell" reminds me of Jr. High School.

dear koshka--and your group has not also devolved? and to elementary
school level   seems to be a tearing-down coffee klach bunch of
females now   Star Jones "a Bitch"?  that's a real classy remark that
shouldn't have been written   complaints seem to be the mainstay of
the group; the original purpose long since lost
Why does this site bother you so much?    ignore it   let people play
their ridiculous games   so what? you seem to be the only one losing
your cool over it
Boy, have you ever made clear, over and over again, that you're no
watch person   enough already!  perhaps some of us are and find your
group's ceaseless carping about jewelery a bore.
This is the original site that started it all and not by you:  "Where
are the 3 best hosts etc." was what brought us together, remember?  A
new watch host is very big news for watch people--Tim Temple was our
"honcho".   Now, thanks to vatenenenfer we have reliable/factual info
which ties in a lot more to the orig. question than you group does.
Do you guys no longer care about where Karen et al are going?  am sure
you do, but no one mentions it in the endless complaints.  tell them
to look into that.
See if any of them can add comments at
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=409636    If only
someone can find out about ISS, which "seems" to be where Tim and
Karen will be in Jan/Feb.
You're excellent at organization, but a real Kommandant in issuing
orders.  How 'bout a truce or some help?
You don't like it here? Then leave us alone; why the unkind remarks.

I'm not clear where your venom has come from, byebyett.

I think some folks here are playing silly games about who this guy is.
It's going to be obvious who he is in a day or so, so why the
taunting?

As to ISS, we could make up stuff til the cows come home, but nobody
knows anything substantive.

And I would like to think if people DID know, they would point people
toward the information, not play guessing games with IDs etc.

Even though I don't care about watches, I think I posted the best info
about where folks could read for themselves without the neener neener
gamesmanship, because someone was kind enough to post it at my site.

I welcome all to my site, and I am trying NOT to censor or put down
people who post about stuff I don't care about. If someone thinks Star
Jones was unpleasant, that's their right.

The answers to THIS question also revolve around the lowering of
standards at ShopNBC, which is what many of us are concerned about.

With all due respect, "have a nice day."

adessociao: Ciao Baby!  The cat is out of the bag, and my lack of
intelligence in getting involved in this site as I STUMLED upon it,
has been confirmed.
The new host for the watch shows is Jim Skelton. He will be co-hosting
with Shawn & Eyal starting late Sat./early Sun. (my error in posting
the time incorrectly).I will no longer be behaving as if I were in Jr.
High, or murmuring comments under my breath, or passing notes to
anyone.
I shall return to the inner circle.
I must ask if you really, really wrote the words:"It's a loss words
don't cover" in response to Tim Temple leaving a TV Sales Program??
I will resist too much wording here, as I fear you will opt to mis-use
the phrase "me thinks he protests too much"!
I would suggest, seriously, that you take a good, long look at the
posts you have written here,(and apparently at other similar sites),
and pull out the local Yellow Pages and go to the "C" section and find
a good counselor to help you enter into professional mental health
renewal.
The simple fact that you have been here, are now affiliated with other
similar discussion groups, and your main concern is the whereabouts of
a TV Sales Host is an obvious call for help!
Please consider seeking professional help, seriously.
I leave you with best wishes, proof of the new watch programs host's
identity, and a sincere prayer that when you wrote "It's a loss words
don't cover", you were referring to your Blackjack losses at a local
riverboat casino,...NOT Tim Temple !!
For cryin out loud.......get a life! Then turn OFF the TV and go live it!!

Since I started this site,just looking for an answer to what I thought
was a simple question, I've seen it twist and turn in so many
directions.  I guess that's the nature of the beast.  But I'd like to
continue chatting here with like-minded people who care about buying
quality merchandise, miss the old Shop NBC, miss our favorite hosts
and struggle with the growing pains that come with change.

So most/some of us have watched the Invicta 2005 intro shows this
weekend with the introduction of new watch show host, Jim Skleton. 
Jim seems very knowledgable and not beholden to Invica even though he
reviewed watches for Eyal.  Let's give him a chance to get comfortable
and he will grow into the position.  We still miss Tim and will watch
for him to show somewhere soon, but kudos to Shop NBC that has begun
to heal itself with Jim's hire.

I also think mgmt have heard the hew & cry from the rest of us
regarding the downward spiral of its jewelry merchandise.  We can use
this forum to talk about Shop NBC experiences and we can always offer
up news when we find it about the reappearance of Tim, Karen, Laura
and Kendy.

To those who think we have no lives, we do.  Part of our lives involve
loving to shop and want to make it the most pleasurable experience it
can be.  When we find a store or saleperson we connect with, we return
to those places that are friendly, courteous, reliable and stand
behind their products.  After building a trust with these types of
vendors, please do not berate us for having lost them. For now we have
to replace them and that's hard work.  We are mourning for only a
momemt and we will move on because we must.  We do have lives; we buy
things for family, friends, ourselves, so we will continue to shop! 
I'm sure there's a sports or drinking-buddy metaphor here but can't
think of one.

If this group isn't your cup of tea, then go have a beer, most
preferably somewhere else.

Has anyone seen the winter 2004 styles of Pam McCy's Tissavel faux fur
coats on www.shopnbc.com yet?  I have 3 of them from years past, and
have received MANY compliments, I really like them. They're made very
well, are exceptionally warm, and no one has ever asked me if 'they
are real?, they just assume they are! Pam's Tissavel shows are
debuting this weekend. I looked on the web, and with a few exceptions,
seems like most of the same styles are back once again, not too much
new to choose from.

Chuck's NYC11 shows this past weekend - BORING! I'm not a big fan of
his jewelry, but was disappointed this time around nonetheless.  By
the way, Tony Malvagna (Park Avenue shows)on ShopAtHomeTV  (Dish
channel 224) frequently has the same jewelry Chuck has shown a few
months prior on SHOPNBC, for a lot less $$ a few months later.  Tony
Malvagna even comments that he sells his jewelry designs to another
network, but they sell them at much higher prices.  If you've seen
something of Chuck's you liked, but didnt purchase,wait a few
months... it'll probably air on ShopAtHomeTv some time later, for $50
- $200 less than Chuck's lowest sale price on ShopNBC.

Holidays are just around the corner.  Need to find new places to buy
gifts, and I HATE going to retail stores! I've been a dedicated TV
Shopper for the past 4 Holiday seasons, and VVTV/SHOPNBC has received
a lot of my Holiday $$$!  I rarely set foot in a 'retail' store for
Holiday gift buying. Why did SHOPNBC have to do this to us?  Guess
I'll be giving a lot of 'American Express Gift Cheques' this year, as
they're one stop shopping at my bank!

Have a good week everyone...

I was browsing the web looking for more info on SHOPNBC, and the
following info from Yahoo Finance below was posted here: 
http://tvtalkshows.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8b2276b3e67acf265a22f2bd83d6bd1c&threadid=94947

***********************************************************
October 8th, 2004 12:31 AM 
Hey Folks, this was on the HSN message board: 

Thursday October 7, 12:09 PM US-Based Company To Source Jewellery         
     From India's SB&T Yahoo! Finance MUMBAI, Oct 7 Asia Pulse - SB&T
International Ltd is set to supply gem set jewellery to International
Shopping Source Inc, USA (ISS) in a deal that could be worth between
US$25-30 million to SB&T in 2005.
     ISS & SB&T intend to enter into a strategic alliance through
which SB&T would become a primary worldwide supplier of gem set
jewellery to ISS, as well as have the first right of refusal to
manufacture gem set jewellery for the US entity sourced in India, SB&T
informed the Stock Exchange here.
     The company would enhance its manufacturing facilities from the
current size of 11,000 square feet to almost 40,000 sq feet, it added.
------------------------------------------ 
I did find it on Yahoo in the finance news. 

** Am I interpreting this correctly as Behzad (from India) is
confirming a business relationship with the new ISS? **

I've only just seen this stuff and, living in the UK, I am CONFUSED.

I feel I'm really missing something.

I am inconsolable!

NEWS FLASH.........John and Laura Ramsey (Gems at Large)is making a
return to ShopNBC.....first show is this Saturday November 13, 2004 at
11:00 am  with Lynn.  I received a letter in the mail from John and
Laura on ShopNBC paper. They are bring back the "Lynn" ring, before
they had a one and two carat this time it is a one and a half carat
ring.  They also have matching earrings and pendant. I will be
watching.

hey, snowlodg--be careful about the Ramsey show; apparently, two
different times are being given--one from the Ramseys and one from
SNBC.

so, a voice from across the pond--welcome

what is it you want to know?

don't be inconsolable--will help if possible

I posted this comment on the other Google question site because of a
need to reply to Lemedicin.  But there is info here for everyone that
may be valuable to you.

Here's my posting:

Sorry to get back to you so late but have been in & out of hospital
twice.  Am doing better.  I spend time (too much time) reading the
watchuseek Invicta Forum and enjoy that soooo much.  You can find me
there under the name Ken9ahora.  Lemedicin, does that make us
landsmen?

I want to explain why I bought crappy Van Belliger diamond earrings. 
I hadn't been able to get to a JA show in NYC for few years where I
have vendors I buy from.  But to order one pair of earrings is truly
inconvienient for these big companies.  Also, I wanted to test the
SNBC waters of what they were really sending out. Did the stuff meet
the priases that were being sung?  So I purchased a pair of 2.0 carat
huggie hoop 14K earrings for less than $600 after clearance and
coupons and another discount.  It was worth the try to see what I'd
get and how long they'd last and I knew I could always send them back
if they were defective, as they were.

So no more stinking Van Belliger diamonds for me.  As for the better
quality made stuff, it's fine for those who want to buy and can get
what they feel is a good price.

Now I'm waiting for the JIS in Miami Beach in January or will contact
vendors I know to replace those huggie earrings for everyday wear or
just get bigger studs.

TO ALL:
For your information and to enlighten others who read here, let me
tell you what I did buy at the JA show,(a friend picked them up for
me).  I have a pair of 18K white earrings that are pave and total
five(5)carats, really.  The stones are VS and the color is F-G.  SNBC
would have to sell these earrings for $9,999 to $12,999, now.  I'm
asking you what you think I should have paid, what a good, fair price
was.  This was before gold went over $00 gold but was at $350.  You
can guess and then I'll tell you the truth.  When you hear the truth,
you'll never buy from SNBC again, from the good vendors or others,
unless you get a truly great clearance price.  But you'll never find
this quality merchandise at SNBC either.  A good time to buy what you
like and must have is in their January clearance sale - and don't
forget to use those coupons.
Or try to find something on the SNBC auction site.  I just purchase a
diamond pave (1.75 ct) baby Lupah there for $452, to me that's a great
buy.

I've given up on my own Google question as comments are not flowing in
as before. No new information in a long time.  If I get any, I will
post there.  I plan to call a SNBC vendor next week when I feel better
to try to get some infor on one prong of the question: where is TT?

Lemedicin, please stay in touch with me if possible, if you want to
for what ever reason, either on my Google page or on the Invictia
Forum, although they are not interested on the many of the jewelry
issues discussed here.  The Yahoo group os ok for kvetching but I
rather kvetch directly to SBNC who may decide to do something.

TO ALL WHO HAVE ACCOUNTS WITH SHOP NBC _ CHECK THEM NOW!!!
All of you should check your online accounts with SNBC.  You cannot
access a lot of information as you used to.  I've officially
complained to Angela but it's going to take weeks to fix.  This is a
major screw-up and you can't see the breakdown of your total and how
it was arrived at.  You can't see coupons and dicounts that were
applied or where they were applied.  Also if you win an auction, it is
listed on your account but you can't click on any information to see
whats going on.  You can't see the tracking either.  Everybody check
and everybody write because this is unconcionable for a company of
this size to rollout a new system and not have the accounting section
fully functional.

Neeen--i think the reason it "dried up" at this site is because Koshka
formed that group of yentas at Yahoo.
 
They've pretty much forgotten that your site here was the start of it
all. They've forgotten we lost Tim and Karen (Kendy was never my
fave).  All they do is kvetch or go on and on and on and on, ad
nauseum, about the hosts that are now at SNBC, Isomers, Star
Jones--oy--it makes me crazy.

There are 3 sane posters there (in addition to me, natch):  LeMedecin,
of course, Red Devil, and alm_richard.

I noticed that I couldn't access the info about my account awhile
back. It makes me nervous.  On the other hand, unlike the other twits,
I've not really been shopping there since Tim departed.

Have forwarded your comment [at this and my site (New Channel)] to
LeMedecin. Wish I could just phone, but . . .   I believe the reason
neither of us is receiving comments at our sites is, basically,
there's nothing new to say in re our questions. We're in limbo, a
holding pattern until, i figure, we see if ISS goes into business with
our Tim and Karen.

Again, people report "stuff", but 99.9% of it is speculation. Whenever
I ask: Who told you? What's your source? there's no reply, or it's "i
can't reveal."
We will NEVER know the answer to your question.  Can't see Tim or
Karen ever talking about it; SNBC never will; and, for now, the
non-disclose clause buttons their lips.

Keep writing at that Yahoo place; noticed your name there for the
first time yesterday or the day before. If you'd rather not, let us
know where you'll be when you have the time.

You have my e-mail addres, so feel free to write.

Thought you might appreciate the flip ring from IDO.  Flips over, and
you have invisibly set diamonds on one side, and a choice of rubies or
sapphires on the reverse.  I thought it was too expensive, but.... the
diakmonds are VVS1-2 and the color is F.

Oh, I still read the comments here. But I am surprised at the level of
nastiness exhibited toward the yahoo group.

*shrug* different strokes

neeen--i saw this at the Yahoo Group; did you?

FROM SHOPNBC CUST SERVICE:
We will be reintroducing the Order Detail to the Account area of 
ShopNBC.com next Thursday morning.  This page will contain all the 
same information our former detail page contained but will match the 
look and feel of the rest of our site.  You will be able to view the 
shipping address, the order total including item price, 
discounts/coupons, shipping charges and any applicable sales tax.  
You will also be able to see the expected arrival date for your 
purchases.

Again, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience or frustration 
we have caused.  Thanks to feedback from you and others, we now 
recognize the value of this feature to our customers and are anxious 
to get this restored for your use.

So, apparently, what we were concerned about will soon end?

koshka:  I wanted to thank you for starting the Yahoo site.  It is a
very entertaining, informative and tolerant site, open to all sorts of
questions.  I've decided to no longer read this particular site, as I
am numbered among the "yentas" (what a particularly nasty, stereotypic
term!) and twits as a previous commentator wrote.  Of course, this
individual has written a number of deregatory statements about others
so perhaps this type of intolerance is limited primarily to this one
person.  But in a country that prides itself on freedom and diversity,
it is very sad that this person has to make her/himself feel superior
by insulting other people with difffering viewpoints.

Well, it's nice to hear from everyone, whether the comments are good
or not so good.  I don't know who the yentas are or are not but it
really dosen't matter as these pages are not limited to any type of
comment other than what Google censors.  This site just goes in a
different direction than the Yahoo site and so what? Now there's
something for everyone.  I've posted at Yahoo, the other Google site
and on the Watch Forum when I've felt I had a relevant comment.  Let's
put aside the bad feelings and turf-wars and continue to speak to each
other no matter where we do it.  These sites are not contests but
forums for sharing information. Thanks.

Thank you, sable22 and neeen for the kind comments! 

When I started the yahoo group, it was only because we all thought
this question might scroll off Google's board and we would lose all
the "like minds" that had gathered here.

I check here frequently, as well as the other Google Answer question
and the where-to-surf board too, because solid information is hard to
find.

sable22, hear hear to your comments about freedom and diversity!

OK - here it is - www.wss.tv - the new website is up.  Don't expect
too much quite yet.  There's not a lot of information available and a
newsletter mail
list doesn't appear to be turned on at this time.  Some references to
familiar "hosts" to be announced soon.  Mgmt., as predicted, is coming
from Value Vision / ShopNBC.

Hey - I'm hoping to find SCoifman, LeMed, Ciao, VanEd, and a few other Where
to Surf.com ShopNBC folks over here or on the other thread.  ShopNBC's
message board at Where to Surf seems to have disappeared ....just
vanished.  Go
figure - WSS site is up today and ShopNBC's Message Board goes down. 
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

The corprate answer was he went to pursue further career oppertunaties, bull!!!
I saw his last show and he was totally blindsided,as a matter of fact
he was complaining that he wasnt invited to the pizza party.I wrote to
Shawn and asked if thats what happened and all he said is that I was
extreamly perceptive.Iv been in t.v. for 23 years and have seen this
happen many times.Also this new guy jim definately knows ayol and is I
belive the son of former gunwriter skeeter skelton, he tried to take
over his fATHERS COULMN and didnt make it there at guns& ammo. He also
knows almost nothing about watches and seen to own every watch he
sohws....right??
anyhow thats all I know about this mystery except one other thing, my
two boys 10&14 used to watch Tim for both houres and were
glued.Someone must know Tims e-mail address and let it out ,that the
only way well find out, and I hope its soon, many people miss him
Thanks for reading my tyrade
ATTILA

Have you ever checked online for the products you are searching for?
Many of them can are priced well below the shopping network prices.
One good website to check out is http://www.redtagwarehouse.com

Karen did not leave to go to aonther network.  over at the US courts
she is sueing ShopNBC for the Sincerely Yours line of jewelry.  This
file is open to the public at
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D08MNXC/04-07809.PDF
Sounds like ShopNBC gave her a raw deal by going back on their agreements.

They are on Direct TV's WSS  (Worldwide Shopping Source) based out of Minneapolis.

My father is Behzad Sarhady and I'm glad you guys are so concerned
about what happened to Tim, Karen and Kendy.  All four are now at WSS
which is shown on DirecTV.  Please check it out, WSS can use all the
support they can get.  They also have a website:
www.shoppingsource.com

Karen Connelly, Tim Temple, Laura Duffek, Kendy Kloepfer and Carmella
Richards all left ShopNBC to work for a new start up shopping channel.
 It is called World Wide Shopping Source (ShoppingSource.com).  If you
visit the web site it has a video explaining all about the new
channel.