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Subject:
Rivet Expansion in Hole
Category: Science Asked by: stormo-ga List Price: $100.00 |
Posted:
26 Aug 2004 20:00 PDT
Expires: 25 Sep 2004 20:00 PDT Question ID: 393228 |
I need to know what happens to the shank of a 2117-T4 aluminum rivet (1/4"D x 3/4"L) when it is peened. My question is specific to 2117-T4 rivets, and I specifically need to know whether the shank expands inside the hole of the the two pieces of metal I am joining. The hole is 0.265"D. Will the 1/4" rivet expand and fill-up the entire hole? |
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Re: Rivet Expansion in Hole
Answered By: redhoss-ga on 28 Aug 2004 17:31 PDT Rated: |
Hello stormo, I was interested in your question because I had never considered the fact that a properly installed rivet of any material would not expand and fill a properly sized hole. I first found this very interesting web page that has much information on 2117T4 rivets: http://www.rvproject.com/rivets.html It does not directly answer your question, but has some very useful info and suggests consulting MIL-R-47196A. I read this spec and can now safely say that a 2117T4 rivet properly installed per this spec will expand to fill the .265 hole. If it didn't, it would be considered loose. Here is the link to MIL-R-47196A: http://home.flash.net/~gila/rivet_spec/rivet_a.htm Here is the part that answers your question: 3.3.3.3 Peening. The driven rivet shall completely fill the hole. Peening of the driven head by rolling the buckling bar shall not be permitted since the rivet hole will not be filled. This makes sense to me because any metal column does expand in diameter when subjected to compressive forces. The only question I had was whether the forces involved were sufficient to expand the rivet enough to fill the hole. Your .265 diameter hole is the maximum recommended diameter for a 1/4 inch rivet. Therefore, it will fill the hole if properly installed. The only question remaining is if your rivet length is correct. Your rivet should protrude through the hole by 1 1/2 times the diameter or for a .250 diameter rivet that would mean .375 inch. I hope that this convinces you that your rivet will fill the hole. | |
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stormo-ga
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Clearly written and useful. |
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Subject:
Re: Rivet Expansion in Hole
From: ticbol-ga on 28 Aug 2004 23:35 PDT |
In science in school we do experiments. Why not do one to answer your own question? Put that rivet into the holes and peen it to finish. Then get a hacksaw, or just a hacksaw blade. Then cut off one of the heads of the peened rivet with the hacksaw blade. Then eyeball, or use a magnifying glass, the condition of the rivet shank inside the plate's hole. Easy. |
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