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Classical music ID
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: nosaj-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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29 Aug 2004 19:23 PDT
Expires: 28 Sep 2004 19:23 PDT Question ID: 394353 |
I'm looking for a simple ID of a classical piece of music. The peice is played out of a jam by the Grateful Dead, so I don't know what it's called. Dead music is freely available, so the song, "New Potato Caboose" can be found at: http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12858 It's available in ogg, 2 bitrates of mp3, and shn. The Jam comes in at 5:25, initiated by the bass player. It's a fast couple of notes on bass, with a few chords played over that. It's sounds very familiar, but I don't know what it is. I've asked around in some forums, and heard it is possibly Chopin's "Minute Waltz", or Bach's "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring", but all of the recorded versions of those pieces I have heard don't really sound the same. If you feel strongly that it is either of those pieces, please cite the recording. Thanks. | |
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Re: Classical music ID
From: markj-ga on 30 Aug 2004 09:04 PDT |
nosaj -- This strikes me as one of those questions for which a definitive answer is impossible, but it sure is interesting. The repeated chords played behind the guitar riff throughout the episode are a basic two-measure D major cadence that goes D-A7-D, with some interesting syncopation in the move from D to A7. It doesn't strike me as being derived from any one well-known source (classical or otherwise), but others may have a different idea about that. I do find that the guitar riff that is played over the chords is a close cousin of the catchy initial theme of -- get this -- a Perez Prado mambo hit from the 50s called "Patricia." I have tried to find an audio clip of that song that focuses on that particular theme, and I did come up with this one at the All Music Guide site (track 33): http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47E1FD84BAC7F20C985354BC1BA60FD07FE44F78F172C0456D3B82D6C872941D779A29181B9E576B466ADFF2EA0160ED2C0EB50F6DE6F2D4CF0&sql=10:47d5vwria92k I don't know if you will be able to access this directly if you haven't register with that site, though. If you have difficulty accessing that site, here is a link to another clip that begins with the last phrase of that theme but then moves on to the other main theme of the song(track 2): http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=e8677Hx908&ean=99442101321 In the meantime, I will continue to think about this fun question. I don't think that either the "Minute Waltz" or "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" are what you are looking for, though. markj-ga |
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Re: Classical music ID
From: markj-ga on 30 Aug 2004 09:25 PDT |
If that All Music Guide page won't open for you, here is another source for a clip that focuses on the theme I have in mind as the inspiration for the guitar riff: http://songs.allofmp3.com/mcatalog.shtml?group=12898&album=1&albref=7 |
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Re: Classical music ID
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 31 Aug 2004 00:03 PDT |
nosaj-- I may not have the world's most educated ear, but I know those two pieces and a lot of other classical music well enough to recognize many selections from just two or three notes in context (like a fast on-and-off of the radio when set to a classical station). I listened to your Dead number, and I did not detect any classical quotation or allusion that I recognized, and certainly not either of those named pieces. Archae0pteryx |
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Re: Classical music ID
From: pianoboy77-ga on 03 Sep 2004 18:10 PDT |
You could find many songs to match that 2-chord progression. If I had to give a popular "classical" song it's similar to, I'd say chopsticks! Check out Track13.mp3 at: http://www.x5ca.net/~drane/wmb/records.htm |
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