This refers to my earlier question "SS Northumbria casualties, 1919,
graves in Embleton, Northumberland.", ID 395910, and is intended for
scriptor-ga only

As you will see, someone else has given a quite full reply. However, I
would still very much like to read what you can offer on the war
graves reasoning and I do not want your efforts to be wasted. I hope
this is a reasonable thing to do - if not please let me know.

Thanks

Nevilley

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Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 02 Sep 2004 09:09 PDT

Dear Nevilley,

I very much appreciate this offer. However, I have a feeling it won't
be right to accept it since it is really not much I can provide and
since my source was already quoted by my colleague who answered your
question. It's the article in the online version of the newspaper "The
Hebridian", where the SS Northumbria is listed as:
"9th January 1919 ? SS Northumbria was sunk by a mine with 4 islanders
lost (3 Barra/1 South Uist)."
I concluded that since she became the victim of a mine from the Great
War that had ended just eight weeks before, the Northumbria still
counted as a war loss, although the war itself was over.

I do not want to appear greedy, so I will not post an answer here
unless you allow me to do so, because it's only a very modest amount
of information.

Regards,
Scriptor


Source: The Hebridian
http://www.thehebridean.net/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Newspaper/Article&pid=1080811024049&cid=1080811035363

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Clarification of Question by nevilley-ga on 02 Sep 2004 09:21 PDT

Dear Scriptor

Please go ahead and answer it. A deal's a deal and you did do the
work. I honestly don't mind and would think that fairer. But thanks
for checking.

Regards

Nevilley

Dear Nevilley,

Thank you so very much. Since I have already written down everything I
got, nothing else remains for me to do now than to assure you of my
thankfulness.

Best regards,
Scriptor

Great answer which helps fill in another part of this jigsaw. Thank you.

As Scriptor has bowed out, may I bow in?

I have searched for Deaths in England (Scotland records are held
separately) during the period Jan to Mar 1919 on:

http://www.1837online.com/

And I have found the following which may or may not be (some of) the
people that you are interested in but I think they all look promising:

Claude R Blythe (Age 25) Alnwick 10b 927
Thomas Inscoe (19) Newcastle T 10b 186
Neil McKinnon (31) Alnwick 10b 927
John McLennon (34) Alnwick 10b 928

There are LOTS of McDonalds to chose from and I am sure that you will
have noticed that the spellings of Blythe and Inscoe are somewhat
different from the names given. (Inouye seems highly unlikely.)

The last two references will be required should you require Death
Certificates which will of course give you the place and cause of
death.

Hope this helps!

All the Best

Bryan

Regarding 'war graves' ... I suspect (perhaps wrongly) that suchlike
would be found near battlefields rather than near Alnwick.

So, possibly the victims may have been buried in ordinary graves.

Thanks Bryan - that's brilliant - thanks! I will have a look and see
what else I can find along those lines. I visit up there from time to
time so I might be able to go to local archives etc.

I agree with you about Inouye - I was working on the assumption that
it was not an English name. But the others do seem quite plausible.

Thanks again, great reference.

Nevilley

Dear probonopublico-ga, 

>From: probonopublico-ga on 02 Sep 2004 10:07 PDT   	 

>Regarding 'war graves' ... I suspect (perhaps wrongly) that suchlike
>would be found near battlefields rather than near Alnwick.

>So, possibly the victims may have been buried in ordinary graves.

Thanks for that. No, they are definitely war graves. I was looking at
them last week, and have photos. I don't know how much you know about
this topic so I won't lecture you (!) but there are plenty of war
graves in non-battlefield sites - though of course the huge, famous
ones are often in places like Flanders and so on. Embleton has quite a
few - I think maybe as well as doing battlefield sites they must have
provided local burials where it was a death in combat, or the family
were unable to look after it themselves, etc. Most of the other
burials in that cemetery are locals. And cemeteries in Northumberland
generally have plenty of war graves, just a few each, also often
including WWII aircrew, sometimes enemy crews also. It's all very sad.
The war graves have a standard format, varied only by having the badge
of the deceased's unit on them, so they are very distinctive.

If you're interested, there is more at:

http://www.cwgc.org/

and my original query - now answered - is at:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=395910

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. 

Regards

Nevilley

Great, Nevilley

Hope your enquiries lead somewhere.

I've now found an Alan Macdonald (29) Newcastle T

Again a slightly different spelling.

I owe you this for my crass assumption about War Graves.

Happy searching.

Bryan

Brilliant - thanks very much for your help Bryan.

Nevilley