Google Answers Logo
View Question
 
Q: When did the Nazis begin using the straight arm salute ? ( No Answer,   3 Comments )
Question  
Subject: When did the Nazis begin using the straight arm salute ?
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: rexcurrydotnet-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 03 Sep 2004 07:05 PDT
Expires: 03 Oct 2004 07:05 PDT
Question ID: 396360
When did the National Socialist German Workers? Party begin using the
straight arm salute.  The monstrous party had been in existence since
1920 (with electoral breakthroughs in 1930 and dictatorship in 1933)
and in 1939 invaded Poland as allies with the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics.  WWII continued through 1945.

Request for Question Clarification by inquisitive-ga on 03 Sep 2004 08:37 PDT
I see that you already have a lot of this covered on your Web site.
Are you just looking for further sources? The exact date? I just want
to be clear on what you need before answering your question,
especially since you have already spent a lot of time on the subject.

Thanks!

--inquisitive-ga

Clarification of Question by rexcurrydotnet-ga on 03 Sep 2004 09:41 PDT
Well an exact date would be great. However, one reason for the
question is the following: the "straight-arm" salute of the national
socialist german workers' party originated with the Pledge of
Allegiance to the U.S. flag, which originally used a straight-arm
salute, as described by Francis Bellamy in 1892.  Interestingly
enough, Francis Bellamy was a self-proclaimed national socialist who
advocated an "industrial army" modeled after the military.  Here is
where it becomes even more interesting: Francis Bellamy died August
28, 1931. The monstrous party had been in existence since 1920 (with
electoral breakthroughs in 1930 and dictatorship in 1933) and in 1939
invaded Poland as allies with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
 WWII continued through 1945.  So, I am curious about what Bellamy
knew and thought about the National Socialist German Workers' Party
before Bellamy died.  He lived long enough to know of their existence
and their "National Socialist" political platform.  Did he also see
the use of "his" straight-arm salute.  So one reason for specificity
is to know whether the National Socialist German Workers' Party was
using the salute before Francis Bellamy died August 28, 1931. And it
would be nice to know how widespread the use was, whether Bellamy
might have seen photos or film of it or otherwise heard of the salute.
 Thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by googleexpert-ga on 08 Sep 2004 18:15 PDT
I did not find an exact date but I did find a year; 
earlier than what fp-ga found.

Also, through your clarifications, you raised more questions;
do you want those questions answered as well?

Thanks.

-googleexpert

Clarification of Question by rexcurrydotnet-ga on 08 Sep 2004 19:50 PDT
dear google expert. Thanks for finding a year but not an exact date. 
I would appreciate those other questions being answered as well, if
that is possible. I new at using google answer so if there is
something about the procedure that I am missing, please fill me in.
Thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by googleexpert-ga on 08 Sep 2004 22:50 PDT
with Hitler being a former art student, I think Hitler got the salute
from the Romans or its descendants and soon after, the Nazis adopted that salute.

what's interesting is that the salute has been around long before the
Nazis and long before Bellamy wrote the pledge of allegiance.

now.... what Francis Bellamy thought of the Nazis and their adopted
salute and whether the Nazis were really using Bellamy's salute, I was
unable to find out.
I could not find any connections between Bellamy and the Nazis online.

by the way, my sources say that Hitler saw the salute in 1921 and
introduced it at the first Nazi rally (January 1923)

Please let me know if If I have answered your question.
Thanks
-googleexpert

References:
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/R/Roman-salute.htm
http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swasti16.htm
http://www.blewa.co.uk/project2/teachers/T2-7-b1.htm
Answer  
There is no answer at this time.

Comments  
Subject: Re: When did the Nazis begin using the straight arm salute ?
From: fp-ga on 03 Sep 2004 14:02 PDT
 
This kind of salute was used by the Nazis approx. since 1925, according to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlergru%C3%9F

Used by members of the Nazi party since 1926, according to
http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/weimar/innenpolitik/nsdap/
Subject: Re: When did the Nazis begin using the straight arm salute ?
From: techtor-ga on 08 Sep 2004 22:55 PDT
 
I recall seeing a statue of a Roman official using this salute. While
I couldn't find a pic of this statue yet, I can't recall properly
whether it's Marcus Aurelius or another Roman official. Just mentioned
it for interest.
Subject: Re: When did the Nazis begin using the straight arm salute ?
From: techtor-ga on 08 Sep 2004 23:02 PDT
 
Aha, I think I found the picture, and it is Marcus Aurelius:

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/romanciv/Romancivimages16/marcus.jpg

Important Disclaimer: Answers and comments provided on Google Answers are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Google does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. Please read carefully the Google Answers Terms of Service.

If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you.
Search Google Answers for
Google Answers  


Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy