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Subject:
Mortgage Loan Amortization Problem
Category: Business and Money > Finance Asked by: spencercat-ga List Price: $14.50 |
Posted:
03 Sep 2004 14:32 PDT
Expires: 03 Sep 2004 20:04 PDT Question ID: 396564 |
I have a 30 year mortgage on a piece of property with a $350,000 principal balance @ 5.125% interest. For the purposes of discussion use August 1, 2004 as the funding date with the first payment due on September 1, 2004. My payment is $1,780.48 per month. I am attempting to analyze what benefit there might be to signing up for my mortgage lender's semi-weekly payment program. I understand how the program works. It is essentially taking my monthly payment and multiplying it by 13 and dividing it by 26 semi-weekly payments. The problem is the fees the lender charges to enable this program will easily run $5,000 over the life of the loan. The bank will not allow me to manually write checks semi-weekly to achieve the same result. The best I could do would be to make my regular monthly payment and then send a separate $68.48 semi-weekly principal reduction payment. I would like to know what would be the total interest on the loan and the total number of semi-weekly payments if I were to make semi-weekly payments of $821.76 and the interest is calculated semi-weekly, not monthly. It is my intent to compare the result with my 30 year loan to determine if the interest savings justifies spending $5,000 on the lender's program. I would also like to know how much my overall interest costs will be over the life of the loan and what month & year the loan will pay-off if I just make the $68.48 semi-weekly principal reduction payments. |
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Subject:
Re: Mortgage Loan Amortization Problem
From: hyphenga-ga on 03 Sep 2004 15:33 PDT |
Hi - not a google researcher, but I've received (and declined) similar offers recently from my lender and others (3rd parties). As I understand it, paying bi-weekly (every 2 weeks) doesn't necessarily mean that the payments are being applied (and interest is being calculated) that way. The note could still be running on a monthly clock even if the lender has a "partial payment" from you. You can achieve the same intended results (save tons of interest dollars and shave 7 or 8 years off the mortgage) with no fees from anyone by adding one-twelth of $1,780.48 ($148.37) to each monthly payment for principal reduction. In effect, you're still making 13 mortage payments per year, but with only 12 checks. Anyhow, just my unsolicited two cents - leave it to the pros to do all the fancy figuring. :-) |
Subject:
Re: Mortgage Loan Amortization Problem
From: spencercat-ga on 03 Sep 2004 16:14 PDT |
Thanks hyphenga-ga. I suspect you are correct. If my lender is calculating interest on a monthly basis, then there is absolutely no reason for me to sign-up for their program. I could just do as you say and send them a monthly principal reduction check. I was considering the possibility that they might calculate interest semi-weekly if I were to convert to their program. In that case, the answer to my question would be what is the difference between the semi-weekly interest calcs and the monthly calcs over the life of the loan. Like you, I'm thinking these programs are a scam and that the amount I would pay to have them administer it is greater than the savings. Thanks for your comment. Spencer |
Subject:
Re: Mortgage Loan Amortization Problem
From: leoj-ga on 03 Sep 2004 19:00 PDT |
I've used biweekly payment setups in a previous mortgage and they are a wonderful mechanism for faster payoff. If your lender wants to charge you a fee for this, then I'd suggest you look to change lenders. While you're at it, I'd recommend an alternative to the 30 year fixed rate mortgage. Consider a 7/23, or a 7/1 ARM, or even a 5/1 ARM. If you run the numbers and pay off the same amount as you are considering doing, chances are the combination of increased payments and lowered interest rate could have you wind up paying much, much less in the long run. Don't be put of by the apparent risk of the ARMs, as long as you pay it down before it adjusts with discipline, the balance at that point will make it a better deal. Add to that the adjustment caps that are normally in place (like 2% per adjustment, 5% lifetime, etc., even a maximum adjustment will be less painful than you might expect. |
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