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"pimping" medical students - phrase origin
Category: Health > Medicine Asked by: bogonflux-ga List Price: $3.00 |
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05 Sep 2004 12:41 PDT
Expires: 05 Oct 2004 12:41 PDT Question ID: 397197 |
In university hospitals, attending physicians "pimp" medical students / interns by asking a series of very difficult questions. I find the name for this (asking "pimp" questions or "pimping" medical students) very peculiar and would like to know the origin of this usage of that word. A humorous article by Frederick Brancati makes some claims about the origin, but, given the nature of this article, I am skeptical of it's veracity. http://www.neonatology.org/pearls/pimping.html Please find the origins (or provide references to back up Brancati's claims). | |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
Answered By: denco-ga on 11 Sep 2004 19:58 PDT Rated: |
Howdy bogonflux-ga, Appreciate you accepting this as an answer. I would imagine that it is all derived from the use of the word "pimp" to mean to "pandar" (the old way to spell pander) or to procure. TheFreeDictionary.com definition of procure. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/procure 1) "get by extra effort" 2) ... pimp, pander Pander (pandar) goes back to before Shakespeare. http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-pan2.htm "In fact, he?d used it himself in the very last scene of the Merry Wives of Windsor back in 1598: 'Marry, sir, we?ll bring you to Windsor, to one Master Brook, that you have cozen?d of money, to whom you should have been a pander'." So, I would think that pander and pimp were pretty much in common usage sometime (at least) in the 1500s, and had the alternative meaning of "get by extra effort" even then. For whatever it is worth, on the streets of Chicago, to "pimp" someone has always (well, for a long time) meant to get on someone's case, to place some pressure on that person, or badger them, more out of fun than anything. If you need any clarification, feel free to ask. Search strategy: Already knew about the pimp/pander/procure connection. Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Sep 2004 13:06 PDT |
I love the Brancati article! Thanks for the link. I agree that Brancati is a questionable reference source. For one thing, the quote from Harvey appears online only in relation to its citation by Brancati. Even the unabridged OED doesn't give a clue to the origins of "pimping" in its medical sense. I hope someone can find an answer, because I've wondered about this for years. |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Sep 2004 13:24 PDT |
One more thing: "bogonflux" has got to be one of the best usernames on all of Google Answers. I literally laughed out loud. |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
From: denco-ga on 05 Sep 2004 14:37 PDT |
Howdy bogonflux-ga, I would imagine that it is all derived from the use of the word "pimp" to mean to "pandar" (the "modern" spelling of pander) or to procure. TheFreeDictionary.com definition of procure. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/procure 1) "get by extra effort" 2) ... pimp, pander Pander (pandar) goes back to before Shakespeare. http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-pan2.htm "In fact, he?d used it himself in the very last scene of the Merry Wives of Windsor back in 1598: 'Marry, sir, we?ll bring you to Windsor, to one Master Brook, that you have cozen?d of money, to whom you should have been a pander'." So, I would think that pander and pimp were pretty much in common usage sometime (at least) in the 1500s, and had the alternative meaning of "get by extra effort" even then. Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher (IIW) |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Sep 2004 14:45 PDT |
This is mere speculation, but I wonder whether "pimping" may initially have been a deliberate corruption of "pumping," as in "pumping someone for information." In my mind's ear, I can hear Peter Sellers, as Inspector Clouseau, saying "So, mon ami, you have pimped him for details about ze crime?" |
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Re: "pimping" medical students - phrase origin
From: denco-ga on 12 Sep 2004 08:28 PDT |
Much thanks for the 5 star rating, bogonflux-ga. Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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