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Q: mac G4 computer problem ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: mac G4 computer problem
Category: Computers
Asked by: job7829-ga
List Price: $5.50
Posted: 11 Sep 2004 05:44 PDT
Expires: 11 Oct 2004 05:44 PDT
Question ID: 399718
My G4  Panther 10.3.5 wakes up after only 1 minute.Will not stay
asleep. Have looked at Apple, MacFixit, nothing there helps (it's not
the LAN). Have a LaCie ext harddrive with a new Psyncx backup of HD.
Tried to index it this morning, think its caused the trouble. (Trashed
index since). Ext drive does not slow down for sleep.
Anyone. Help please.

Request for Question Clarification by googleexpert-ga on 11 Sep 2004 12:59 PDT
I have had problems recently with my G4 as well lately.
Do you have Norton Filesaver running in the background?

Clarification of Question by job7829-ga on 11 Sep 2004 22:44 PDT
No. I no longer use Norton for anything (not for years). Found
Filesaver esoecially interferred with everything. Since writing this
question, have thought to maybe turn off all sleep, keep screensaver
on, but run the machine all tonight to try again to index the La Cie
drive. (I trashed the last one. It's no longer indexed). Maybe G4 is
still trying to run what appears to have been a botched index, and it
wants to finish it?

Request for Question Clarification by googleexpert-ga on 12 Sep 2004 18:09 PDT
1.) Is PsyncX running in the background?
If you're not sure, run Applications/Utilities/

2.)  Can you startup Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2?  
If so, are there any problems with the Lacie hard drive when
putting the computer to sleep?

Clarification of Question by job7829-ga on 12 Sep 2004 21:41 PDT
You spotted it. Psyncx was running in background even tho I thought
(had tried) to handle it. Serves me right for trying to use such an
'advanced' open source program, which I obviously don't know how to
control yet. Engineer- think is not one of my best subjects.
OSX and G4 are also very new for me? only a few months old? didn't
know about activity monitor at all. Many, many thanks. Now all I have
to do is figure out how to schedule the damn thing to do what I want
it to!
(Mistake in my last note: it was Norton Virus program that I hated.
Never used Filesaver for some reason, maybe it wasn't included in my
'gift Norton').
Again, my thanks.
Subject: Re: mac G4 computer problem
Answered By: googleexpert-ga on 12 Sep 2004 21:51 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Question: Hard Drive sleep problem for OS X 

Answer: Check for applications running in the background with ActivityMonitor


Please let me know if you have anymore questions.

Thanks again.

Clarification of Answer by googleexpert-ga on 13 Sep 2004 17:00 PDT
Thanks for the rating and tip!

If you need any help using PSyncX, please don't hesitate 
to ask and I'll do my best to help you.


Request for Answer Clarification by job7829-ga on 14 Sep 2004 22:23 PDT
You must be clairvoyant. Thought we'd solved Psyncx problem, but
haven't. Scheduled backup for yesterday, 6:00PM,once a week,  it went
fine, logged as finished. I turn off computer at 7:00PM. So this
morning, when I turned it on,  it's back at at it (Checked Activity
monitor and there it was again. And no sleep possible.)
Should I trash the app and download it again to start fresh? 

Clarification of Answer by googleexpert-ga on 15 Sep 2004 06:39 PDT
I installed and ran PsyncX and tried a manual backup which worked,
however scheduled backups
such as for every minute did not work for me.  I'm still experimenting
with PsyncX but it hasn't worked for me.

anyway, I figured out what your problem might be:
Your /etc/crontab file

open /Applications/Utilities/
and type: sudo pico /etc/crontab

Once that file is opened, you should see something that looks like:
###PsyncX Crontab###
*       9       *       *       *       root    /usr/bin/runpsync 0 0
0 '/Users/joe/Desktop/blah' '/Volumes/Maxtor/blah'
###End PsyncX Crontab###

delete those lines and reschedule your backups with PsyncX.

However, if PsyncX isn't working for you, you might want to try Deja Vu.
Deja Vu which came with my G4 and uses psync (not PsyncX) does seem to work.

If you would like to remove PsyncX, try the following with what
PsyncX's author says:

"You should be able to remove all of psync by deleting the psync*
entries in /usr/local/bin If you have installed other items in
/usr/local/bin, make sure to look before deleting! :-)

Also, under /usr/local/share, it installs some man pages.

All of the items are listed in the Bill of Materials (BOM) in

Please let me know if you have anymore questions.



Request for Answer Clarification by job7829-ga on 16 Sep 2004 02:22 PDT
was not able to disable (delete) the crontab.Darwin ignored selected
sentences, delete key, also tried moving to trash, wouldn't go. am
sending you a grab of the Terminal screen via e-mail. The Lacie
appears on each start up, even if I have no backup scheduled.
Probably should trash the whole program and buy the deja Vu as you
suggested, unless anything else occurs to you or I am really doing
something wrong with Terminal.
thanks, job

Request for Answer Clarification by job7829-ga on 16 Sep 2004 02:54 PDT
Ignore previous communique. Just sorted out problem: Psyncx somehow
managed to insert itself onto startup schedule. Discovered it and
dumped it via System Preferences/accounts. Restarted, all healed and
gone away.
So many thanks again for your patience and suggestions. This is the
2nd time have used google/answers, and am really impressed by
expertise, good manners, level of help. Beats phoning my x  (cnerd,
for a living) in England, who gets so expert on me I fumble
everything, and he's not that clever anyway.

Clarification of Answer by googleexpert-ga on 16 Sep 2004 07:15 PDT
I'm happy to hear you fixed your problem.
job7829-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00

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