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Q: Why doesn't my web site show up in Google's directory? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
Subject: Why doesn't my web site show up in Google's directory?
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: redbeckyjoe-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 11 Sep 2004 05:52 PDT
Expires: 11 Oct 2004 05:52 PDT
Question ID: 399721
I get the following message when I try to research my site on Google. 
My site used to be in the first 3 pages under Grahl seating and now it
is gone!  How can I help get it back?
Your search - cache: - did
not match any documents.

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 11 Sep 2004 09:56 PDT
Hello redbeckyjoe-ga,

I searched for "Farris Group" and your site appears on the first page of hits.


Please show us the search terms you're using. Thanks.

~ czh ~

Clarification of Question by redbeckyjoe-ga on 11 Sep 2004 10:20 PDT
Grahl seating
office furniture
office chairs

Clarification of Question by redbeckyjoe-ga on 11 Sep 2004 10:24 PDT
Also, when I go to the google task bar and query google on the
individual pages of the site I get the message that there was no match
Subject: Re: Why doesn't my web site show up in Google's directory?
Answered By: larre-ga on 11 Sep 2004 18:06 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Thanks for asking!

Let's see if we can pin down some reasons your site is no longer shown
under the desired search terms, and come up with ways to counter that

1. Flash Intro

There's very little in the Flash Intro page for a search engine to
grab onto. Google doesn't use META keywords in determining what the
page is about, and Flash doesn't offer text for Google to interpret.
There's nothing in the Flash content related to any of your desired
search terms. The sites that link to you, link the main domain URL,
which is the Flash page. Which leads to the next problem.

2. Few Inbound Links

Search engines use inbound links to help determine the importance of a
website. The site shows only two inbound links, one from Grahl, the
other from what looks like a rather shady link exchange. This sort of
link is very risky. Google's Quality Guidelines state: "Don't
participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking
or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad
neighborhoods" on the web as your own ranking may be affected
adversely by those links." I'm afraid that "true value discounts"
falls into that bad neighborhood category. Sportsthisandthat could
well be considered a similar bad neighborhood. This type of linking
could well be why the site has dropped out of the top listings. The
search engines penalize sites that are involved with linking schemes.


Seek quality links. "Your website is a window to the world wide web.
In addition to the useful content or products you have to offer, you
can provide a superior service to your visitors by offering high
quality links to other sites."

"The benefits of linking go even further. Your site's search engine
ranking can be raised by the quality of your links. Links to, as well
as from your site. For better or worse, your site is partially judged
by the company you keep."

In the interests of full disclosure, the quotes above are my own words
from my own website.

Web Design Guide (Promotion Tutorial) | Links and Link Quality

Seek inbound links from local organizations and your customers, as
well as sites whose content complements your own. Link OUT to high
quality information on your own or related subjects, including review
sites, and any product information that is genuinely useful to your
customers. If you're after local business, make sure to list list your
address prominently on your homepage and contact pages. GoogleLocal
(and other local versions of popular search engines) can be an
excellent source of traffic.  Such strategies pay off long term.

Seek listings in the big directories, ODP, Yahoo, Looksmart. These
highly desirable links shout "quality". Regional listings are
generally easy to claim, even if you are unable to obtain listings
under the product or industry categories.

How to Suggest a Site to the Open Directory Project

Yahoo Directory Listings | Suggest a Site Help

Zeal (LookSmart) Register and Add A Site Profile

When seeking links, you might consider using your default.htm page as
the link destination, rather than the Flash page.

See your site as the search engines do. Use the SimSpider or the
Keyword Density Analyzer to help you create keyword related content.

Search Engine World Tools (scroll to Tools Menu)

Read this "Build a High Ranking Page" tutorial. It's outdated with
respect to meta tags (META keywords have been much downgraded in
importance since 1997), but the basic process is still the same.

Webmaster Guidelines

Familiarize yourself with search engine Guidelines, and check them
every 3-4 months or so. Both Google and Yahoo describe the sort of
pages they don't want in their results. Make sure your site stay away
from the practices that are considered suspect.

-- "Make pages for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your
   users, or present different content to search engines than you 
   display to users."

-- "Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good
   rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what 
   you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful 
   test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search 
   engines didn't exist?" 

Google Information for Webmasters

Search Engine Resources
Google Rankings

Yahoo Rankings

Search Engine Watch

Webmaster World

Search Engine Online Search Engine Tools

HighRankings Advisor (free Newsletter, plus extensive Archives)

SEO Chat Forums

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Request for Answer Clarification by redbeckyjoe-ga on 13 Sep 2004 04:34 PDT
Thank you for your suggestions.  The link from "true value discounts"
just showed up this week and I am not sure where it came from.  At any
rate, the site had already fallen off before that link.  Grahl just
relinked to me and I am waiting on one of my other manufacturers to do
the same.

I did submit my URL to but had not heard back from them on
the acceptance of the site.  Maybe they are connected to "true value
discounts"?  Anyhow, how do I get my link disconnected from them?  I
can't find even find the site!

Clarification of Answer by larre-ga on 13 Sep 2004 10:16 PDT
I'm sorry, I find nothing on either, or even just ascerio
alone. Are you certain of the spelling?

Request for Answer Clarification by redbeckyjoe-ga on 13 Sep 2004 11:11 PDT
this is where I added a link.  I finally found it after some research
today.  However, I have not been approved there yet!  The popular web
sites there seem very legimate to me!

Clarification of Answer by larre-ga on 13 Sep 2004 11:24 PDT

Alexa uses the ODP Directory listings (noted in the Recommended Links
section above), which are very respectible. Hopefully, your listing
will appear soon.

redbeckyjoe-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Good suggestions!  Much thanks!

Subject: Re: Why doesn't my web site show up in Google's directory?
From: larre-ga on 13 Sep 2004 10:44 PDT
Thanks to colleague Pinkfreud, whose mispelling was more creative than
my own, we've found Ascendio Web Design. Is this by chance the site
you're seeking?

No bad neighborhood there, seems very legitimate. 


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