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Subject: alternative dentistry
Category: Health > Medicine
Asked by: brightquestion-ga
List Price: $40.00
Posted: 15 Jul 2002 19:42 PDT
Expires: 14 Aug 2002 19:42 PDT
Question ID: 39979
i am looking for the contact info of a dentist who has been regularly
and successfully using non-surgical means to heal root-canals. i do
not want my tooth extracted nor do i wish to have a root-canal-Surgery
done. Anywhere in the world is fine for me. I only wish to find
someone who uses biological (injecting a certain strain of germs
etc.), chemical, or electro-magnetic means for healing infections of
the root. Surgery is barbaric and akin to the day when they would
amputate a leg from fear the infection would spread. It may be that it
is easier to find this abroad as the ADA may stiffly discourage via
various means such attempts. Ada rhetoric is that once a root is
infected the tooth will deteriorate; without a root-canal surgery. It
is not as commonly known that rootcanal surgery will always leave a
small infection in the denitne tubules at the very least.
I will also pay for any scientific research regarding the specific
subject of attempting to avoid ROOT-CANAL and heal a root infection
via chemical, biological , or electromagnetic means. This does not
mean bringing me a slew of studies that demonstrate chlorhexidine's
efficacy as a chemical agent in general oral infections. I have done
that type of research already.

Request for Question Clarification by mwalcoff-ga on 15 Jul 2002 19:55 PDT
Hello,

I am a little confused by your question, since nonsurgical procedures
appear to be the recommended first treatment for root canals, with
surgery and extraction used only if the nonsurgical treatment does not
work. Are you looking to an alternative to the removal of the pulp
from the tooth?
Answer  
Subject: Re: alternative dentistry
Answered By: umiat-ga on 15 Jul 2002 23:24 PDT
 
Hello, brightquestion-ga!

The dentist….yikes! I don’t care for them too much myself, but I must
admit, I have had the traditional root canals, fillings, etc. I
commend you on your search for alternatives.

First off, here is a website devoted to listings of dentists
throughout the United States who practice alternative and biological
dentistry. Because the list does not go into detail concerning
root-canal procedures, you may need to contact each one individually
to make sure they use an alternative process with which you are
comfortable. The list can be found at:
http://www.heall.com/resource/dentists.html

At the website for the Holistic Dental Association, you can search for
an HDA dentist by clicking on the link “Locate an HDS member.” Again,
you would have to contact them to find out if they practice the type
of alternative dentistry you desire. http://www.holisticdental.org/

Dr. Joseph Mercola’s website has two links to finding dentists that
practice alternative and biological dentistry at
http://www.mercola.com/forms/dentist.htm

Another good reference that explains biological dentistry and includes
the address of a biological dental practice in Pennsylvania can be
found at: http://membrane.com/philanet/dentist/biomenu.html

The center for Biological Dentistry, located in Mexico, had this to
say about their philosophy:
“An effective treatment program is customized from the correct
combination of biological products and non-toxic, non-invasive
therapies, which correct body chemistry, reduce stress, maximize
immune response, remove toxins and regenerate the bio-energetic
system.” You can access their website and find out more about their
practice and at: http://www.biodentistry.com/dentistry/index.htm

National Integrated Health Associates also practices alternatives to
traditional root canals. “In many instances, root canal therapy may be
prevented with the use of nutritional intervention, lasers and the
application of special healing remedies. Since teeth have energetic
connections to other areas of the body, an infected tooth, as well as
the removal of a tooth, or areas around the tooth that remain infected
after the tooth is extracted, may disrupt the over-all energy flow in
the body. Every effort should be made to save the tooth by regular
testing and using this new technology.” Contact information can be
found on their website at: http://www.nihadc.com/contact.htm and
descriptions of their various areas of expertise at:
http://www.nihadc.com/practices.htm 

The American Academy of Quantum Medicine has an enlightening article
on utilizing laser in treatment of  root canal and bone infections
which you might find interesting, and which might provide another
alternative to traditional oral surgery.
http://www.aaqm.org/updatepage_3.htm

Search terms on Google
electromagnetic root canal therapy
alternative root canal therapy
non-surgical root canal therapy
biological dentistry

I hope this information helps you find the dentist that does right by
your teeth!

umiat-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by brightquestion-ga on 19 Jul 2002 00:05 PDT
Thank you for all your efforts. Unfortunately although u have found
many interesting links most of which i myself have found  (isnt
mercola great?)before, none of them answer my question specifically.
Even lasers that you mention are used after drilling the top of the
tooth or for bone and gum work which is a differnent though related
matter. As far as the lists of holistic dentists that you provided,
although that would be useful if i were clueless; to me its like if i
asked you to tell me the number of the district court and you handed
me a yellow pages. I want a specific answer ive already been calling
those types of lists. Unfortunately most holistic dentists are dressed
up niche demographic regular dentistry providers.   Are you still
intersted in answering my question.  Thnax again for your time and
energies.

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 19 Jul 2002 10:07 PDT
Hello, brightquestion-ga,

 I must say, I am a bit dismayed by your response to my answer. No, I
did not, before answering, consider you "clueless." However, I wish
you had been clearer in your initial question, by stating that you had
already called every alternative dentist in the country. I also wish
you had responded earlier to the intial posting for clarification
about pulp removal or the top of the tooth being removed considered
"surgery." It would have saved me several hours.

Though I did give you listings for alternative dentists and websites,
I did not merely copy them "as from the yellow pages". There were many
that I read through and avoided giving to you because I felt they were
not going to offer much more than traditional surgery. Short of
calling all of the dentists myself, I can know no more than you about
which one is willing to work with you on the exact alternative method
you prefer. This approach is usually worked out between a dentist and
a client through consultation. I cannot do that for you.

 I still stand by much of the information I gave you in the preceeding
answer. Because you were so unclear in your initial question , I gave
you links to some specific sites that clearly mentioned "non-invasive"
approaches.

 Have you called the Center for Biological Dentistry in Mexico, which,
clearly, as noted in my answer, tries many other dental approaches in
the hopes of avoiding surgery. When I look at your question , and I
look at the clinic's approach, I consider that clinic to be a very
specific answer to your question. You have asked for dentists which
try to "heal root infections via chemical, biological or
electromagnetic means." Their clinic, as quoted in my previous answer,
uses a "combination of biological products and non-toxic, non-invasive
therapies, which correct body chemistry, reduce stress, maximize
immune response, remove toxins and regenerate the bio-energetic
system.” If you had already called them, previous to asking your
question, it would have been helpful if you had noted all the places
you had previously contacted and noted which ones were "dressed up
niche demographic regular dentistry providers". Again, it would have
saved me a lot of time.

 I also gave you a link to National Integrated Health Associates,
which is clear in their statement that they also try "nutritional
intervention and applications of special healing remedies" as an
approach to avoiding root canal surgery. Again, I think this is
"contact info of a dentist who has been regularly and successfully
using non-surgical means to heal root-canals", as you asked for in
your question. Again, however, if you had already contacted them
previous to you question to Google, and considered them fraudulent, I
wish you had mentioned that. Researchers have no way of knowing what
you have done previously.

 Nevertheless, I will give you one more reference that may help you
understand a researcher's confusion and possibly point you in another
direction.  The Journal of Evolutionary Dentistry has an article by a
dentist in Rome, which is primarily about periapical lesions.
Throughout the article, he continually refers to non-surgical root
canal treatment. "This concept must be understood by the practitioner
because it relates to the rationale for non surgical root canal
treatment as opposed to surgical intervention." He also mentions
non-surgical treatment using temporary calcium hydroxide fillings.
"The prime focus for the practitioner is to completely biomechanically
and chemo-mechanically debride and shape the root canal system
regardless of the nature of the periradicular tissues."
http://www.dental-smile.com/1999/2-2and3-1999_3.htm
  
 From what I gather from you, this is invasive, whereas, to a dentist
and a researcher, this is considered a non-invasive approach. Thus,
again, I point to the two clinics mentioned above, and in my previous
answer, which practice nutritional and other non-toxic, non-invasive
therapies. Short of calling all over the world to various dentists and
talking to them directly, this is the best I can do. I have found no
other references to root canal therapy that use some sort of injection
into the gum (which you would probably consider invasive) or magical
substance which transfers into the root canal by osmosis through the
tooth. However, you might go to the site mentioned above with the
article from Evolutionary Dentistry, and link on the e-mail, asking
for information on a dentist overseas that practices what you are
looking for.
 
 I now quote your response.."This is not an easy search. i will now
read your suggestions for the previous question and see if you have
answered my question or not there. thank you for your efforts. i hope
that you are eager to do a
serious search of the type that i need."

 Having spent several hours in initial research, and even more time
trying to clarify my initial answer, I don't know how I can help you
any more. I think I have given you at least two good references for
consultation. Again, there is no way to read your mind in your initial
question and know that you have, in fact, already called every
dentist.

 Perhaps, if you are looking for the type of "serious search" that you
need, you should contact a professional research company which will
charge you anywhere from several hundred to over a thousand dollars to
search every journal and call every promising lead, in the United
States and elsewhere, to find to find a "possible" answer. Even if
they don't come up with the exact result you are looking for, you will
probably be charged anyway.

 I am sorry you have been so disappointed. I don't know how I can be
of any further help.

 umiat-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by brightquestion-ga on 21 Jul 2002 17:25 PDT
Hello,    It is obvious that you have put a lot of time and effort
into your answers, and i appreciate that fully. I answered your
question as soon as i received it, and i regret that you spent much
time without finding a solution.
The search terms that you placed in google although very intelligent,
are preliminary choices as they do not use any terms with insider
information.
YId be more than happy if YOU can still answer my questions. If you
feel that it is not worth your time perhaps you an give me an estimate
of how much time it would take you think and what you believe would be
fair compensation. Like you said a professional research company is
likely to rip me off... so i would like to hear your estimation. And
perhaps we can work out a win/win deal. set upas a bounty perhaps.  
thanx again

Request for Answer Clarification by brightquestion-ga on 21 Jul 2002 17:31 PDT
Hello,    It is obvious that you have put a lot of time and effort
into your answers, and i appreciate that fully. I answered your
question as soon as i received it, and i regret that you spent much
time without finding a solution.
The search terms that you placed in google although very intelligent,
are preliminary choices as they do not use any terms with insider
information.
Your choice of the center for biological dentistry, although it
aroused my attention over a month ago, unfortunately it was clear in
that they pushed root canal in situations with clear root infections
and they did not indicate otherwise. i also wanted to mention that i
believe my question was stated specifically from the start. Id be more
than happy if YOU can still answer my questions. If you feel that it
is not worth your time perhaps you can give me an estimate of how much
time it would take you think and what you believe would be fair
compensation. Like you said a professional research company is likely
to rip me off... and i believe someone like you has what it takes, so
i would like to hear your estimation. And perhaps we can work out a
win/win deal. set up as a bounty perhaps.   thanx again

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 21 Jul 2002 19:24 PDT
Brightquestion-ga,

  While I appreciate your interest in having me delve deeper for what
might be adequate compensation, I just don't believe I want to spend
the time doing more. You can make long-distance phone calls, overseas,
to clinics you might have found out about on your own. I cannot argue
with you over whether you think I have put enough time into the
question, with a genuine desire to help, for you to claim a refund.
All I can suggest is, if you have heard about some type of alternative
treatment in your readings somewhere, you go to that source and try to
find some contact information. I know, with the amount of health
problems in my family, including severe schizophrenia, lifelong
migraine headaches, and heart problems, that I have done all in my
power to find out information for my relatives. Sometimes, as with the
migraines that have been chronic over 50 years, there is no answer and
there is no solution, no matter where you turn. I don't know what to
tell you about your dentist quest. As I said, I have found absolutely
nothing in medical journals, etc., that advocate not removing diseased
pulp. If you have heard of something, why don't you tell me where you
heard it? Otherwise, I would have no clue where to start. I have
explored every avenue known to me, except for sites that elude to
dental quackery. I don't want to go that route. Therefore, if you have
a legitimate source concerning where you heard about this treatment, I
would be interested to know. Otherwise, for a mere $40.00 which
involved at least 4-5 hours of research on my part, and your
unwillingness to appreciate the time, I have no interest. As I said,
there are many times where there is no answer. The fact that you have
called all these dentists and found no hint of a treatment that you
want, may be your answer right there. Sorry.

umiat-ga

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 21 Jul 2002 19:27 PDT
Brightquestion-ga,

   By the way, what do you mean by "insider information?" No, I don't
have any insider information, other than my own dentist. But if you
do, please use it to your own advantage.
 
umiat-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: alternative dentistry
From: sublime1-ga on 15 Jul 2002 23:56 PDT
 
Hi Brightquestion,

For what it's worth, I've had personal experience with a system promoted by
V. Gardiakos, whose website I was able to locate:
http://www.albrite.com/

He markets a product called the 'Vita Pick', along with instructions.
The product consists of a syringe base with an angled metal 'needle', which
is not pointed and sharp, but ends in a miniscule tubular opening.
Using this device, it is possible to inject antibacterial solutions, such
as saltwater, hydrogen peroxide, or any solution you might prefer, into
the infected areas, by inserting the tip under the gums, parallel to the
side of the tooth. You might also utilize an antiviral agent, such as
silver nitrate solution.

When I ordered the device, about 5 years ago, I called the toll-free number:
1-800-533-1821, and was greeted by Mr, Gardiakos himself. The # has not
changed in those years. He offers a 60 day money-back guarantee. Using the
device eliminated my infection in short order. He claims over 21 years
of gum disease research and 22,000 smiling customers.

smiles.....
....sublime1-ga
Subject: Re: alternative dentistry
From: brightquestion-ga on 19 Jul 2002 00:19 PDT
 
to mwalcoffs question.....

   yes i am looking for an alternative to pulp removal  but not just
any alternative. it must not do the serious damage to the the tooth
that root-canal treatment does. no tooth drilling or extremely
minimalized by some new maneuver. hope that helps.

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