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Mt. Man
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: kenm0re-ga List Price: $5.25 |
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14 Sep 2004 20:10 PDT
Expires: 14 Oct 2004 20:10 PDT Question ID: 401324 |
here's the ?... (think old west) Before the settlers,before the stagecoachess,these rugged loners wrestled through the Rockiess looking for their fortunes. They were known as mountainn men. This man was known as the 1st. What was his name? thanks! I can't find a decent answer. |
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Re: Mt. Man
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Sep 2004 18:10 PDT Rated: ![]() |
Thank you for accepting my suggestion of John Colter as your answer. This was a tough one! Choosing just one of the mountain men as the "first" is difficult, but I think you can be reasonably certain that John Colter is your guy. Particularly compelling evidence: a book called "John Colter: First Mountain Man," and a miniature metal figurine called "John Colter, First of the Mountain Men." Below I've reposted material from my earlier comments. "Glass introduces his stories with the travels of Lewis and Clark (leaving out Sacajawea, which is peculiar and somewhat offensive); a member of the expedition, John Colter, is described as the first mountain man." Amazon: Mountain Men: True Grit and Tall Tales http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385908415 "Now available as an eBook from Anvil Publishers! John Colter: First Mountain Man by Dr. William B. Schafer, M.D." Anvil Publishers http://www.anvilpub.com/mountain_man.htm "History describes the first two mountain men as members of Lewis and Clark's Corps of Discovery, but private John Colter had left the expedition in about 1806 as it was on its way back, on the headwaters of the Missouri River. George Drouillard came back a year later to undertake the life of fur-trapping. Both men worked for the Spaniard, Manuel Lisa, who was clandestinely trading furs out of St. Louis." Ed Johnston: The Life and Times of John Colter http://www.edjohnston.com/edsci/colter1.htm "John Colter, First of the Mountain Men" Worster Miniatures http://www.milminwh.com/worster_west.htm My Google search strategy: "john colter" "mountain man OR men" first ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22john+colter%22+%22mountain+man+OR+men%22+first Good luck! ~Pink |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: larre-ga on 14 Sep 2004 20:22 PDT |
Before Ashley and Henry ran their famous advertisement in the St. Louis Gazette, the Astor's had 's famous advertisement for young men... "The first American fur trading expedition was formed by John Jacob Astor. He hoped to cross the continent overland and by sea, and create a trading post at the mouth of the Columbia River. William Price Hunt used the information supplied by the Lewis and Clark expedition to lead the overland Astorians. They reached the mouth of the Columbia in February of 1812 where the fort "Astoria" had already been erected by the seafaring group that had arrived months earlier. Leading the return overland expedition was Robert Stuart. This group would lay the groundwork for the Oregon Trail by finding the South Pass through the Rocky Mountains, a route that had eluded both the Lewis and Clark expedition and Hunt. The discovery of the South Pass was the key to a continental passage by land. The importance of Stuart's feat was recognized immediately, though the Missouri Gazette exaggerated the ease with which a crossing could be done: "By information received of these gentlemen, it appears that a journey across the continent of North America might be performed with a wagon." |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: larre-ga on 14 Sep 2004 20:22 PDT |
Sorry about the mess at the beginning of the above comment. Long day. ---l |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: pinkfreud-ga on 14 Sep 2004 21:07 PDT |
I vote for Jedediah Smith. "The men that searched the wild areas of the Rockies for beaver became known as the 'mountain men.' Many of these mountain men became known for helping to settle Oregon Country and the rest of the west. Two of the men who got their start out west as fur trappers, Jedediah Smith and Joe Meek, left an indelible mark on the Oregon Country. Jedediah Smith explored many mountain areas during his fur trapping time. He was the first white man to cross the Sierra Nevada reaching California by land from the east." National Park Service: MOUNTAIN MEN http://www.nps.gov/whmi/educate/ortrtg/6or4.htm "Dale Morgan notes that Jedediah Smith must be credited with being the first to find and recognize the natural gateway to the Oregon country through South Pass; the first overland traveler to reach California; the first white man of record to cross the Sierra Nevada; and the first to travel overland from California to the Columbia." Amazon.com: Jedediah Smith and the Opening of the West http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0803251386 |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: steph53-ga on 15 Sep 2004 10:50 PDT |
How about Paul Bunyon? Steph53 |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: tutuzdad-ga on 15 Sep 2004 11:10 PDT |
Here's a different approach. Your question does not specify that the man we are discussing here was known as "the first mountain man" but simply known historically as "the first": James (Jim) Bridger was indeed a mountain man who traveled the Rockies with the likes of Hugh Glass, Jedediah Smith, and Thomas Fitzpatrick...BUT he is also believed to have been THE FIRST white man to see the Great Salt Lake. Here then would be one explanation: Mountain Man Jim Bridger is in fact known as "the first". MOUNTAIN MAN JIM BRIDGER http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/HNS/Mtmen/jimbrid.html tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Sep 2004 11:19 PDT |
Note that Jedediah Smith is described as "the first" in several categories in the articles I mentioned: the first to find and recognize the natural gateway to the Oregon country through South Pass the first overland traveler to reach California the first white man of record to cross the Sierra Nevada the first to travel overland from California to the Columbia. |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: kenm0re-ga on 15 Sep 2004 17:29 PDT |
wow! these are great answers. Well.. which of the two went into the rockies? Wouldn't the southpass be the sierra nevada mts? Are these part of the rockies?? hmmm... I appreciate all that you guys have done this far. I'll double my price if someone can find an article that says one of them was the first mountain man. |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Sep 2004 17:44 PDT |
Here's an interesting possibility: John Colter. "Glass introduces his stories with the travels of Lewis and Clark (leaving out Sacajawea, which is peculiar and somewhat offensive); a member of the expedition, John Colter, is described as the first mountain man." http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385908415 "Now available as an eBook from Anvil Publishers! John Colter: First Mountain Man by Dr. William B. Schafer, M.D." http://www.anvilpub.com/mountain_man.htm "History describes the first two mountain men as members of Lewis and Clark's Corps of Discovery, but private John Colter had left the expedition in about 1806 as it was on its way back, on the headwaters of the Missouri River. George Drouillard came back a year later to undertake the life of fur-trapping. Both men worked for the Spaniard, Manuel Lisa, who was clandestinely trading furs out of St. Louis." http://www.edjohnston.com/edsci/colter1.htm |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Sep 2004 18:01 PDT |
"John Colter, First of the Mountain Men" http://www.milminwh.com/worster_west.htm |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: kenm0re-ga on 16 Sep 2004 17:33 PDT |
Hey pink.. I'll accept that as an answer.Thanks for your work... how do I close the question and make sure you get paid? |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Sep 2004 10:44 PDT |
Thanks for the five stars and the nice tip! Hope you ace the contest! ~Pink |
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Re: Mt. Man
From: idamann-ga on 29 Sep 2004 05:58 PDT |
What about Alexander MacKenzie? |
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