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Subject:
Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: archae0pteryx-ga List Price: $21.21 |
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14 Sep 2004 20:32 PDT
Expires: 14 Oct 2004 20:32 PDT Question ID: 401338 |
Terms and the definitions of terms as a device for influencing and controlling behavior: that's the subject I want to know about. I am interested in the insidious effects of contriving special definitions of familiar terms for use within a context such as a cult or other closed society, the effect being that people can't question or resist them without seeming to advocate something counter to their own interests and/or those of the group. The general idea as I understand it is that you use terms anyone would have to agree to, and then you control the meanings ascribed to those terms, and you thereby trap people into a mindset that they are often simply powerless to fight. It's the power of the word that is the true focus of my question: not any kind of magical or religious power, but certainly psychological power. I am interested in this question both from the point of view of dispassionate analysis and from the point of view of those who practice or have been victimized by the practice of ownership of definitions as a means of controlling others. Exploration of this question will almost inevitably lead into some literature about Scientology. So let me say yes, I am interested in this issue as it comes up in relation to Scientology, but only as part of a larger picture. I have no special interest in that system in itself, nor any special interest in avoiding the subject. The answer to this question will consist of references and links to sources of information that will help me understand exactly what that process of owning definitions is all about, how it works, why it is so powerful, how to recognize it when it's being done, and how to counter it. If information does fall into two classes--scientific/analytic and practitioner/victim--I would like to see resources categorized that way. This is a real question, not just for fun, so I'm not pricing it as a toy question. Thank you, Archae0pteryx | |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: pinkfreud-ga on 14 Sep 2004 21:21 PDT |
Greetings, Tryx! My own mind is too discombobulated to take on this project, but I would like to put in a good word for the great wordsmith Dmitri Borgmann's coinage "logocide," defined (as I recall) as the deliberate destruction of a word's meaning (as in '1984' style mind control: War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, Ignorance Is Strength). ~Pink |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: denco-ga on 14 Sep 2004 23:34 PDT |
Perhaps a bit outside the scope of your question, but the present state of affairs has it that one is "unpatriotic" if they question the decisions of the government. Of course, it is the true patriot that questions the government every turn of the way. |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: powerjug-ga on 15 Sep 2004 10:32 PDT |
Here's an example which does not really go in the direction you are talking about. Take the word "organic" as used by organic farmers. Organic is one word with lots of definitions...and new technologies are free to give it even more definitions (like organic electronics). What's a fella to do? Pretty soon the organic farmers are going to have to come up with a new word because agribusiness is trying to "water down" the word "organic" and ultimately re-define it. How do the organic farmers communicate to people if someone has taken their word and re-defined it? When you are discussing a specific concept regarding an issue that is important to many people it requires a defined word...perhaps a new word is needed to suit the purpose. I think a problem arises in having to use words that are not specific enough. I hope you get your question sorted out. |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: ipfan-ga on 15 Sep 2004 14:36 PDT |
Have you looked into General Semantics? It is a related branch of epistemology that deals with the societal impact of definitions. See http://www.generalsemantics.org/. On that home page is a link to a story called "War Words and Tired Symbols" that's worth a read. See also http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/gs.htm, and my personal favorite on the notion of societal shaping of defintions and thus constructs and thus behaviors is "What is Salt?", found here: http://www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/salt.htm |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: neilzero-ga on 15 Sep 2004 18:44 PDT |
You will likely want to refer to what George Orwel called double speak in his book 1984. |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: voila-ga on 19 Sep 2004 12:34 PDT |
Could "loading the language" or "totalist language" be a part of what you're after? "'Loading the language' is a manipulative technique for persuasion, public relations, marketing, and political advocacy. At its core is nonstandard vocabulary: new words or phrases, or use of words and phrases in ways that are outside their traditional meaning." http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?LoadTheLanguage http://www.apologeticsindex.org/b07.html http://www.barnabasministry.com/lifton3.htm http://www.educationnews.org/e-files%20no.6.htm http://forbes.com/forbes/2003/1013/088_print.html |
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Re: Owning the definitions, controlling the mind
From: capitaineformidable-ga on 12 Nov 2004 14:46 PST |
Not so much a discussion of the words themselves but an overview of the principles and techniques that are going on behind the words. http://changingminds.org http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/conversion.htm Regards |
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