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Airplane --- Your Own Dirt Airstrip
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: nronronronro-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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16 Sep 2004 14:56 PDT
Expires: 16 Oct 2004 14:56 PDT Question ID: 402215 |
Hi There! I own 640 acres in the middle of nowhere; it's high desert in Modoc County, California. I am considering clearing a dirt airstrip for landing a small airplane (J-3 Cub). The work would be done on weekends my me. I have all the necessary tools, including a Bobcat loader, hand shovel, and enough beer to float a battleship. I would rather not ask anyone's permission since they often say "no." Specifically, I would rather not talk to the FAA, county government, or my neighbors. I'm sure they are all good people, but I'd rather avoid having them turn me down. So, the question is: can I do this without asking anyone? Or, will I eventually get zapped? Second question: is there a web site that describes the practical how-to for this project? Perhaps a lessons-learned story by someone who has already done it? A 5-star answer would be 2-3 paragraphs, and referral to 1-2 web sites. All comments greatly appreciated! Thanks. ron |
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Re: Airplane --- Your Own Dirt Airstrip
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 16 Sep 2004 16:20 PDT Rated: |
Ron -- First the bad news: you have to let the FAA know under FAR Part 157, which requires submission of a Form 7840-1 at least 30 days before the work is to begin: Electronic Code of Federal Regulations Title 15 -- Part 157 http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=fc6028f12b6ae7a21884988cdae88b7a&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title14/14cfr157_main_02.tpl Here's a link to the FAA form -- and note that your Google Answers screen name doesn't qualify for this form: FAA.gov Form 7840-1 http://www.faa.gov/arp/asw/7480-1.pdf And, it looks as if the State of California wants to know too. The good news is that if California's Aviation division people are anything like those in my home state of Washington, they're usually pretty good advocates for airstrips and can help you with certain resource questions. This page has links to the law; forms; and contact information: California Division of Aeronautics http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/planning/aeronaut/htmlfile/oairport.php The regulations above seem to be more up-to-date than those cited in this excellent guide from the State of Texas, which cites some distance restrictions for airports. This guide has excellent instructions, including some suppliers of signage, wind indicators and lighting: Texas Department of Transportation "Farm and Ranch Airstrips: How to Build Your Own Airstrip," (undated but appears to have been revised March, 2003) ftp://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/avn/avninfo/farm_ranch_airstrips.pdf A much more complex guide, intended for larger, public use airports is also available from the FAA. Originally released in 1989, there have been several updates, which are linked from the second URL: FAA "Airport Design: Advisory Circular," (Sept. 29, 1989) http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/planning/aeronaut/documents/5300-13.pdf FAA Advisory Circulars http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/planning/aeronaut/htmlfile/faa-acs.php Here's a brief account of an RV owner's building his own airstrip: Chris Heitman "Getting Approval for a Private Airstrip," (Jan. 30, 2002) http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/airstrip.html A final resource which may prove to be useful to you may be your state's pilots association. Our local chapter of the WPA actually maintains on the state's emergency fields at Skykomish (in the Cascade Mountain pass), so they have experience with the vagaries of keeping up a grass field. California Pilots Association http://www.calpilots.org/html/ Google search strategy: Build your own airstrip "building an airstrip" "my own airstrip" Keep the blue side up! Omnivorous-GA |
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omnivorous----top-flight answer! Exactly what I needed. Separately, your mention of Washington brought to mind a story from 15 years ago. I flew into Yakima, Washington. The guy who ran the local flying service/gas-up was 80+ years old. He showed me an original flight "permit" signed by Orville Wright himself. It was license number 42...as in less than 50 pilots in the country. If you ever get to Yakima, look him up. There's only one like him. Thanks again for the great info! ron |
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Re: Airplane --- Your Own Dirt Airstrip
From: omnivorous-ga on 17 Sep 2004 03:14 PDT |
Ron -- I think that it was in the book "Hangar Talk: Interviews with Fliers 1920's to 1990's" that I heard that or a similar story: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0910055408/ref=cm_aya_asin.title/104-7079124-8836748?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance Imagine having a connection like that to the pioneers of aviation! I knew a guy in Illinois, an American Airlines captain, who bought 110 acres of farmland NW of Chicago and cut his own airstrip. He took the equipment sheds and turned them into airplane hangars where he and others worked on Aeroncas. He also stored an old Tiger Moth for a friend: "Quite frankly it makes me nervous. It's one of 3 flying in the world and it's too valuable," he told me. That Tiger Moth needed to be tuned about every 5 hours of flight! When I was first here in Seattle, I also met one of the grandsons of the founder of Harvey Field, a public use airfield in Snohomish, WA. His grandfather had jumped ship (literally: with a bag of coconuts in San Francisco Bay) from an English merchant vessel. After trying his hand at gold mining, he purchased 120 acres of an old stump farm. In the early 1900s he was bitten by the aviation bug and started the airfield. Thanks for the kind rating. That Texas Department of Aviation document is a gem! Best regards, Omnivorous-GA Mooney pilot |
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Re: Airplane --- Your Own Dirt Airstrip
From: nronronronro-ga on 17 Sep 2004 07:22 PDT |
omnivorous---thanks for your great comments and stories. Energizing! Thanks again. ron |
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