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Piezo pump efficiency
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: uffetuff-ga List Price: $59.00 |
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17 Sep 2004 06:55 PDT
Expires: 17 Oct 2004 06:55 PDT Question ID: 402469 |
We are interested in piezo pumps and their efficiency. By efficient we consider the amount of mechanical work produced in relation to the electrical energy consumed. We would need an efficiency of at least 30% to be able to use this technology. The pump would ideally pump with a speed of, in a pressure less state, 10-20 ml/minute, but 1-50ml/minute is still of interest. The pump must also be able to withstand a pressure of at least 30kPa in the ideal pump speed range. For lower speeds, a higher pressure tolerance is critical. The pump shall also be pretty small, a few centimetres. Are there any products on the market that can achieve this, if not, which companies are developing _effective_ piezo pumps, and what time to market can be expected for a pump with the given efficiency? |
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Re: Piezo pump efficiency
From: guzzi-ga on 17 Sep 2004 16:57 PDT |
Sorry I can't answer, but others may find it useful if you could indicate the fluid, and perhaps the temperature. Pressure differential too. Best |
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Re: Piezo pump efficiency
From: guzzi-ga on 17 Sep 2004 17:40 PDT |
...more musings. I presume you?ve gone through the web and found things such as :- http://www.spie.org/scripts/abstract.pl?bibcode=2001SPIE.4327..425B But you?ve got me thinking (a rare event). Maybe any input I can give has already been surpassed by you, but just in case.... Anyway, the efficiency of acoustic piezo drivers is high, maybe up to 30%, partly because the load is impedance matched. Unloaded they are essentially capacitive. But that doesn?t necessarily preclude high efficiency if driving variable loads, just that the drive circuitry would have to be designed to accommodate. That means a resonant drive rather than just blatting the thing on and off. Doubt manufacturers are worried about efficiency when the power requirements are so low in the first place so you may have to custom design the drive. Have you considered experimenting with pies ink-jet heads, just to get a feel for the thing? Best |
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Re: Piezo pump efficiency
From: uffetuff-ga on 20 Sep 2004 00:38 PDT |
Sorry about the lack of information. The fluid in the pump is water and the temperature range is 25-40 degrees Celsius. The pressure differential is at least 30kPa. When the pump is not powered and not running it _must_ block the fluid and keep the pressure stable between the two sides of the pump. We have been doing experiments with piezo disks for audio applications, which we are driving a lot slower to measure the force they can give. We can then later create a resonance circuit for the disk. This needs however some development and research and a desired shortcut would be to find an already manufactured pump, or good information about how to build an effective pump under these circumstances. So far we have found this pump http://www.thinxxs.com/products/index_products2.html but we which to find other alternatives, and perhaps other solutions for a pumping system. Best regards /Jens Thorvinger |
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Re: Piezo pump efficiency
From: guzzi-ga on 20 Sep 2004 17:47 PDT |
Yea, that was the only one I found that looked kinda up the right street. Tricky. Too old to work in pascals -- so 4.35 psi. I presume that you are pumping from a reservoir -- or are you wanting to transfer between two volumes? This (obviously) might be relevant in terms of the displacement of the valve gear. Sounds like an interesting wee project and you have done exactly what I would have as a start. I?m almost tempted to experiment myself. Gut feeling is that it should just about be realisable but not easy. Reckon you worked this out yourself :-) Only other thought which might be constructive is have you explored other piezo materials -- not rochelle salt of course! Plastic Piezo films *may* be more efficient or more amenable to your application. Sorry I can?t do more. Perhaps some other kind soul can. Best PS Just noticed my spell check 'pies' for 'piezo' in previous. Duh. |
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