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Subject: List of Golf Outings and Charitable Events in NY/NJ/CT in 2004
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events
Asked by: dasshaw-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 29 Sep 2004 11:27 PDT
Expires: 29 Oct 2004 11:27 PDT
Question ID: 408004
Where could one find a listing of charitable and corporate golf events
and fundraisers being held throughout the NY NJ CT region?  In
particular, I am looking for contact information for the organizers of
such events.  Is there a clearinghouse publication for that kind of
information?  Where do these organizations find their venues?  If the
information is up to date from 2004, that is fine, not neccesarily
looking for 2005.

Request for Question Clarification by easterangel-ga on 29 Sep 2004 17:14 PDT
Hi!

It seems that there are lots of additional questions here. 

Would a list of charitable golf events in NY/NJ/CT be enough as answer
together with the contact information of the organizers?

Thanks!

Clarification of Question by dasshaw-ga on 29 Sep 2004 19:48 PDT
I see what you are saying about the addl questions...more rhetorical
in nature than actual questions...thought it might help in finding the
answer, that's all.  I would be pleased with the list and contact
information, as comprehensive as it could be.

Request for Question Clarification by easterangel-ga on 30 Sep 2004 02:37 PDT
I haven't yet found any substantial information that will be good as
an answer. I will release this question in the meantime so as to give
other researchers a chance to answer the question.

Clarification of Question by dasshaw-ga on 30 Sep 2004 06:25 PDT
Thanks for your effort.  I have heard of special regional magazines
that are geared toward Non-Profits that might publish this material. 
For instance, there are publications for Meeting Planners, so perhaps
there are such publications for Development Directors at Charities? 
Or in the alternative, where would these Development Directors wish to
have their event publicized?  I would think in some sort of Corporate
Publication which would represent the target audience of the charity.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 30 Sep 2004 07:33 PDT
dasshaw-ga,

I've done a fair bit of fundraising in my time, and I'm not aware of
any publications that directly target the golf and fundraising crowd.

It's possible to construct Google searches that (more or less) zero in
on gold fundraising events.  Would these be helpful to you?

For instance, have a look at the following links:


http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=golf+%2Bfundraiser&near=ny&btnG=Search


://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=%28ny+OR+nj+OR+ct%29+intitle%3Agolf++intitle%3Afundraiser&btnG=Search


These identify quite a few golf fundraisers in the NY/NJ/CT area. 
With a bit more thought, I'm sure I could come up with some other
targeted searches to get you similarly useful results.

Let me know what you think about this as a strategy for getting you an answer.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by dasshaw-ga on 30 Sep 2004 09:21 PDT
I see what you have done... the first link looks very promising.  Is
there a way to conduct a search "within the results" so that there
would not be so much "clicking through" all the links?  The results
look like they could be promising, but a lot of work to harvest the
needed info.  If this were to be the best/only way to get the info,
then I would move ahead.  It appears there is no magic bullet on this
question as you state.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 01 Oct 2004 08:49 PDT
dasshaw-ga,

Thanks for getting back to me.

My question to you now is:  Do you want to move ahead, and if so...how???

I believe I can construct some highly-targeted searches that will get
the information you're after -- or at least, very close to it.

But what information, exactly, ARE you after?  Based on the results I
gave you earlier, how should I fine-tune these to get you even better
results(and please have a good look at BOTH links, as they I think
they're both of value).

The better I understand your needs, the more I can assist you.  But
let me say in advance that if you're looking for mailing list type
information for event organizers, then I think you're right -- the
only way to get at this would be to go through the search results one
site at a time, and "harvest" the relevant info.

I would leave the harvesting to you, but I can probably offer a
targeted set of search results to consider.

Looking forward to hearing back from you,

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by dasshaw-ga on 01 Oct 2004 09:47 PDT
I think you are on the right track and would like you to proceed. 
Yes, I am looking to create a database of these charitable endeavors:

1.  Company or Organization Name, if applicable, for instance it might
be an Industry Association or individual business supporting a
charity.

2.  Contact/Response Information for the Company or Organization or
Charity conducting the event.

3.  Charity or Beneficiary Name

4.  Contact Information for the Charity or Beneficiary

Any other information that can be gleaned, such as E-Mail, Phone
numbers, Date of Event, Venue, Type of Event (golf, tennis, other).

I now understand that I am going to have to "harvest" the information,
so the finer your search, the easier it will be. There were quite a
few perfect hits on your links.  An example of one that was right on
the nose was:

http://www.golftransactions.com/tournaments/guidingeyes051903.html


For another example, the following hit was adequate and useful, but a
little more clunky:

http://www.dressforsuccess.org/where_we_are/affiliate.asp?pageid=3&sisid=50


Both were accessed by going through the first example link you
provided.  I hope you move forward with this and are successful. 
Seems like you are in right direction.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 01 Oct 2004 13:46 PDT
Hello again,

We're getting closer, but I need to ask you one more thing:  Are you
looking for events ANYWHERE in the three states you mentioned, or only
in the Tri-State area that surrounds NYC?

Let me know.

And here's a link with a few good hits (and one miss!):

://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3Awww.golftransactions.com+funds+raised+%28ny+OR+nj+OR+ct%29&btnG=Search


pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by dasshaw-ga on 03 Oct 2004 09:12 PDT
Haven't been able to look at your link yet, but sounds intriguing. 
Yes, I am looking for events ANYWHERE in those three states...thanks!
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Subject: Re: List of Golf Outings and Charitable Events in NY/NJ/CT in 2004
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 03 Oct 2004 17:33 PDT
 
dasshaw-ga,


Thanks for your willingness to experiment a bit with some of the newer
search technologies out there.  One of Google's latest is the
capability of "local" search to identify results that are relevant
only in a specific geographic area.

The main page for Google Local search is at:


http://local.google.com/lochp



and I've found that the best combination of search terms for your
particular needs appears to be:


"golf fundraiser" OR "golf * fundraiser" OR "golf ** fundraiser" 


Cut and paste these terms (quotes and all) into the "What" box for the
local search.

These terms will find sites with the phrase "golf fundraiser" and also
the many sites with similar phrases such as "golf outing/fundraiser"
-- the asterisks serve as wildcards that stand-in for either one or
two words.

IMPORTANT NOTE:  The quotes restrict the results to sites that
actually use the phrase "golf fundraiser" or something very close to
it.  I found these to be more targeted than removing the quotes, which
gets sites with both the words "golf" and "fundraiser", but not
necessarily in proximity.  If you find you want more results, just
remove the quote marks from the searches.



The "Where" box, believe it or not, is tricky as well.  The Google
Local search is not set up to do an entire state at one time. 
Instead, it gives results within a 45-mile radius (which is actually a
90-mile wide circle) of a given city.  While you can knock off
Connecticut or New Jersey with just a few well-placed city searches, a
large state like New York is going to take a fair number of searches
to get full coverage.

I've included links below to results for some well-placed cities
throughout the tri-state area.  They should give you pretty good
coverage for your "harvesting" activities.  But if you find there's a
particular area of interest (say...Plattsburgh!) that didn't get
picked up by my searching, you shouldn't have any problem adding it
yourself.

The first search results, for  [ New York, NY ], are here:


http://local.google.com/local?sc=1&hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22+&near=new+york%2C+ny&btnG=Google+Search


In the upper right-hand corner of the page, make sure the "45 miles"
text is bolded.  If it isn't, click on it, to get the broadest
possible results (unless, of course, you want to narrow down a
particular search to a smaller area).


Searches for other cities and their surrounding areas are included
below.  You'll find that there's some spillover to surrounding states
(e.g. Pennsylvania).  It's possible to get rid of these, if they're a
problem.  Just let me know, and I can walk you through the steps.

I believe these should get you off to a great start.  However, before
rating this answer, please let me know if you need any additional
information.  Just post a Request for Clarification, and I'll be happy
to assist you further.

All the best, 

pafalafa-ga


==========

Atlantic City, NJ
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22+&near=Atlantic+City%2C+NJ&btnG=Search


Trenton, NJ
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22+&near=Trenton%2C+NJ&btnG=Search


Newark, NJ
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++nj&near=Newark%2C+NJ&btnG=Search


Poughkeepsie, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++&near=Poughkeepsie%2C+NY&btnG=Search


Albany, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++&near=Albany%2C+NY&btnG=Search



Binghamton, NY [no results]



Syracuse, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++&near=Syracuse%2C+NY&btnG=Search


Utica, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++&near=Utica%2C+NY&btnG=Search


Buffalo, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++&near=Buffalo%2C+NY&btnG=Search



Brookhaven, NY
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++ny&near=brookhaven%2C+NY&btnG=Search


Hartford, CT
http://local.google.com/local?hl=en&q=%22golf+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+*+fundraiser%22+OR+%22golf+**+fundraiser%22++ct&near=Hartford%2C+CT&btnG=Search



Again, let me know if you need any additional assistance with this. 
I'm at your service.

All the best, 

pafalafa-ga
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