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Which religions don't vote?
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: elementk-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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29 Sep 2004 23:15 PDT
Expires: 29 Oct 2004 23:15 PDT Question ID: 408247 |
Part #1: I know Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in voting, what other religions don't believe in participating in the political system? Part #2: Briefly, why don't JW's & the others you have found partake in the political system? |
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Re: Which religions don't vote?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 30 Sep 2004 07:55 PDT Rated: |
Dear elementk-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. As you noted, Jehovah?s Witness do not believe in voting or participating in elections. The position of this faith is that their allegiance is solely to God (Jehovah), not " Caesar" (government). As an example, this faith draws their conclusion in part from Biblical scriptures such as this: ?Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.? BIBLE GATEWAY http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?passage=LUKE+20:21-26&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=off -------------------------- The Amish (some Anabaptists, Hutterines, Mennonites, German Baptists, Dunkwards, Moravians, Separatists, Congregationalists, The Amish, and certain types Baptists among them) usually do not vote, but their religion does allow them to. Ironically, the Amish (et al) that practice separatisms do not practice it based on their religious believes but because of their political beliefs. In the early 17th century in England, several movements evolved among these groups that insisted on the separate autonomy of each church. The New Testament was their only guide, and they denounced many of the practices of the Catholic Church and as such refused to accept ANY creed (oath, vow, allegiance, etc). In more modern times claiming their autonomy ensures religious freedom through separation of church and state as outlined in the Constitution?s First Amendment, the Amish take this separation to the extreme, creating a self-imposed religious, political and social barrier between them as the rest of the world. Having said that, this practice is more of a philosophical commitment than anything else. THE AMISH VOTE http://www.worldmagblog.com/archives/007289.html THE PROTESTANTS SECTS http://www.myss.com/worldreligions/Christianity13.asp -------------------------- ?Some ultraconservative Christian groups don't vote as another way of keeping themselves apart from a sinful society, said Gordon Melton, director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion in Santa Barbara. The members of a group called the family, which has about 9,000 members worldwide, some in Los Angeles, do not vote. "They want to separate from as much of the world as they can," Melton said.? SOME FAITHS ABSTAIN FROM CASTING BALLOTS http://bahai-library.com/newspapers/041001.html -------------------------- The Church of God, In Truth is a relatively small number but it too does not practice ballot casting. THE CHURCH OF GOD, IN TRUTH http://www.postponements.com/index.htm Their reasoning lies in their disagreement with the voting on the new disciple to replace Judas, the betrayer of Jesus: ?We do not believe in voting! According to the New Testament, when they chose a new Apostle, they used lots. "And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:23-26).? http://www.postponements.com/id217.htm -------------------------- Some members of the Worldwide Church of God have also renounced voting. One scriptural example from which they draw this conclusion in their interpretation of Revelation 18:4: ?Come out of her [which they interpret as ?governments?], my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues BLUE LETTER BIBLE: Revelation 18:4. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev018.html#top VOTING: IS IT A CHRISTIAN DUTY? http://www.giveshare.org/BibleStudy/081.voting.html This doctrine has relaxed somewhat with some congregations although it is important to note that some Worldwide Churches of God are still quite orthodox while others are leaning toward becoming more liberal: "While the Church has never published that voting is a sin, we have usually discouraged participation in the political process. This led to the commonly held idea, which was sometimes preached, that any participation in voting would be sinful." "If a Church member chooses to vote, it is his or her private and personal decision. The individual should not, however, introduce division into the congregation by campaigning or announcing a political platform within the congregation.? ? "Questions and Answers from the PGR," Worldwide News, 25 May 1993. THERE CAME A FALLING AWAY http://www.restoredcog.org/books/tcafa-part3.html I hope you find that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: CHURCH FAITH RELIGION SECT DOCTRINE BELIEF VOTING ELECTIONS SIN FORBIDDEN DOES NOT BELIEVE IN VOTING AGAINST THEIR RELIGION ABSTAIN | |
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Re: Which religions don't vote?
From: neilzero-ga on 30 Sep 2004 06:16 PDT |
Other than some possible splinter groups off the Jehovah Witness, I think all religions encourage citizens to vote. I think the JW stand is that Satan controls everything except the Jehovah Witnesses. I doubt that the JW disapline members who vote. Neil |
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Re: Which religions don't vote?
From: pugwashjw-ga on 01 Oct 2004 07:46 PDT |
For Elementk; Jehovahs witnesses do not vote because they put their total faith and trust in God`s coming Kingdom, the one that is prayed for in the "Lord`s Prayer", Matthew 6;9,10. Isaiah 9;6,7..and the government [ dominion] will be upon his[Jesus`]shoulder...of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end". Daniel 7;13,14..and to him [ Jesus] there were given rulership and dignity and Kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him". In this future Kingdom, everyone obeying God`s commands, through Jesus direction, is promised a wonderful existence, as described in Micah 4;4.."They will actually sit, each one under his vine and under his fig tree, and there will be no one making them tremble; for the very mouth of Jehovah of armies has spoken it". And Revelation 21;4.."And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, AND DEATH WILL BE NO MORE,neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away". Psalm 37;11.."But the meek ones will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace". Because of the laws of the land, Jehovahs Witnesses register themselves on the voting rolls, but when it comes to actually voting, they do not, and when asked by the authorities, why not?, they give a written explanation pointing out these scriptures Psalm 146;3.."Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, TO WHOM NO SALVATION BELONGS, his spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground, in that day his thoughts do perish. Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in Jehovah his God". Daniel 2;44.." And in the days of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed onto any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite". Psalm 118;6.."Jehovah is on my side, I shall not fear. What can earthling man do to me". Many Jehovahs Witnesses have been killed by hostile governments for not complying to orders that directly contravened God`s laws. But they do not disobey governments in matters such as civil obedience, paying taxes and obeying registration and traffic laws. This is in compliance with the scripture at Romans 13;1..Let every soul [person] be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God. The existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions bu God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement by God. Those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgement to themselves". this scripture places a tremendous responsibility on elected authorities to "do the right thing" by the people they govern. They will be answerable direct to God, eventually. Jehovah`s Witnesses regard man [individuals and governments] as being quite inept in living without God`s guidance, as Jeremiah , in chapter 10, verse 3, said "I well know, Oh! Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking EVEN to direct his step". I have quoted the pertinent scriptures here , rather than just citing them, as many reading the GA comments may not have a Bible. And they can be verified. JEHOVAH is God`s personal name [Psalm 83;18] It is the closest english language translation of the four letter Hebrew word YHWH, sometimes rendered YAHWEH, found in the bible 7,000 times. It is also referred to as the Tetragrammaton,[four letters]. As to whether or not it should be used, Jehovahs witnesses insist on its use with deep reverence, regarding Jehovah as their friend. Many religions have completely removed his name from their publications of the bible, in the mistaken belief that it is too "Holy". It is not possible to have a friend and not use their name. Was the name always used?. No. At Exodus 6;3 we find.." And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as GOD ALMIGHTY [title] but as respects my name, Jehovah, I did not make myself known to them". for Neilzero;. There are no splinter groups of Jehovahs Witnesses. If former members do start other groups, they are regarded as apostates. As to whether Satan rules the world we know, that is answered in Revelation 12;9..the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the ENTIRE inhabited earth, and his angels were hurled down with him". For Tutuz; Revelation 18;4. It is false religion people must get out of. The "her" in verse 3 has relations with the "kings of the earth" [ governments] and the two are separate. Big business is a third entity named as " the travelling merchants". I look forward to your comments. Pug. |
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Re: Which religions don't vote?
From: crythias-ga on 02 Oct 2004 15:05 PDT |
<SoapBOX> To paraphrase a bit, and add my own personal interpretation, God puts in place the government of/over the people. (Regarding Romans 13:3-5) http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=ROM+13:3-5&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on However, I personally believe that God does this with respect to the hearts of the people. When the people turned away from God, tyrants came to be in power. Then people cried out for a savior and God answered. (Personal overview of Kings and Chronicles). I will add this bit, and bear the wrath of being proclaimed a heretic as I say it: As prayer is a way that we as Christians/followers of God are to proclaim our thoughts, desires, wishes, and needs to the God who by nature already knows our thoughts, desires, wishes and needs, so also is the vote a proclamation of the desires of our hearts, collectively and yet still known by God. I'd also put it that the vote is similar to the unused "Talent". Like the master who yelled at the servant for burying his task money, ("At least if you put it in the bank, it would have gained interest!"), I feel that this "little" that has been given to you by God and "Caesar" should also not be squandered. "Faith without works is dead"... The calling of God to you to DO something with what God gave you, including giving the vote, something that CAESAR gave you, back to Caesar, is a critical issue in living life according to God's plan. Frankly, being salt and light in this world is pointless if you remain in the cupboard, tasteless and dark. </SoapBOX> I just felt .. something called me to opine. This free comment is just that, a free comment. |
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Re: Which religions don't vote?
From: pugwashjw-ga on 03 Oct 2004 05:16 PDT |
In sticking with the second part of the original question, Jehovahs Witnesses regard voting for ANY politician as going directly against the scripture at Psalm 146;3..do not put your trust in nobles... And they have suffered for it by having to put up with the decisions of politicians voted in by everybody else. But this is accepted as they know the general situation will not change until God acts to change it. Sometime in the future...soon. |
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