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IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: cryptica-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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03 Oct 2004 15:10 PDT
Expires: 02 Nov 2004 14:10 PST Question ID: 409791 |
How do I print out this this word in Greek lettering: "THERAPON." Supposedly the word "therapist" derives from the Greek word "therapon." I've searched, but don't trust the online translation sites. And because I can't read Greek, I can't tell if it's on any Greek sites. I need to know EXACTLY how to write it -- no guessing. And what you give me must be "therapon." Not "Therapy." But is it even possible to print Greek letters here totally accurately?-- what with everything here being in Courier font. To spare you repeating things I've already done: I went on Altavista.babelfish and typed therapist and got this: ?¿?É÷ÉÀ. Probably NOT it, I would think. Then I tried Sherlock's translator (I'm on a Mac) and got this for "therapist:" ???????? But when I did the reverse translation, that word came back as "Treatment." But then when I typed in English "treatment," a whole new Greek word came up. And so on and so on. . . Any Greek researchers out there? I looked at Apteryx-ga's old question here, "Reseachers, What are your languages?" -- but out of 35 comments, nobody mentioned speaking Greek. Thanks (or however you say it in Greek) -- |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
Answered By: jackburton-ga on 03 Oct 2004 18:22 PDT Rated: |
You're in luck, Cryptica! I lived in Greece when I was child, so I have a fairly good understanding of the Greek language. THERAPON in Greek is spelt, THETA - EPSILON - RHO - ALPHA (with accent) - PI - OMEGA - NU. I checked this using Arnold Manderson's "Teleion Angloellenikon lexikon" (A Complete Greek-English Dictionary). I have scanned the word from the dictionary, together with its meaning, so you can see exactly how it is written. See: http://68.15.21.151/uploads/researchers/therapon.jpeg You will also find the word listed here (see #2324): http://www.jcsm.org/StudyCenter/kjvstrongs/STRGRK23.htm From the Rapha Christian Counselling website: "The etymological history of the word "therapy," the Greek therapeia, with its derivatives therapon, therapeuo, and therapontos, gives birth to some illuminating meanings for the current practice of Christian counseling. Therapeia means, "service." The noun appears frequently in the works of Aristotle, Hippocrates, Philo and Josephus. In his book, Kerygma and Counseling, Thomas Oden wrote, "More particularly, it means attentive, caring service, the kind of heedful, scrupulous, conscientious care that one would hope to receive in private and intimate matters, such as medical service. The therapon is the servant who renders careful, experienced, watchful, meticulous, skilled, obedient, painstaking service to the one to whom he is intimately responsible." (Oden, p. 147) Notably the closest Greek synonym for therapon is diakonos, which also means "servant." We can glean from the linguistic resemblance the concepts of the therapist and minister. In fact, in the ancient world, therapeia was commonly translated into Latin as ministerium. Among the Greek words signifying "servant" (therapon, diakonos, oiketes, pais, doulos), the most intimate of these is therapon, which always refers to personal, considerate, and confidential act of service." http://www.rapha.info/whatis.html I hope this answers your question. If anything is unclear, please ask for clarification. Search terms: [ greek therapon ] Best regards, JB | |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
From: unautzorized11-ga on 04 Oct 2004 06:48 PDT |
I thought that maybe this could help you out. I have greek characters on my keyboard, so I write here "therapon" as it is written in greek, in both capital and small letters: ??????? ??????? There's accent only in the second one, cause in greek there are no accents when a word is written in capital letters. I thought that perhaps it's more useful to you in this format, than in an image, as you can copy it from here and edit it the way you like. It's not too greek to me, because I'm greek :-) (if it doesn't appear well in your browser, try View->Encoding->Greek) |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
From: cryptica-ga on 04 Oct 2004 07:26 PDT |
Thank you unatuzorized -- but I'm confused. Your "therapon" in small letters ends with that "w v" kind of letters. . . but if you look at the link that jackburton gave me, there are MORE letters.. o v t o and hat funny little fish hook S. What are those extra letters? |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
From: jackburton-ga on 04 Oct 2004 10:27 PDT |
Cryptica, I think the entry in the lexicon may have confused you. Ignore the letters that follow "w n". Those letters indicate that -ONTOS can also follow from THERAP, forming the word THERAPONTOS (genitive case). THERAPON (in small caps) is written like this: http://68.15.21.151/uploads/researchers/therapon.jpg THERAPONTOS (in small caps) is written like this: http://68.15.21.151/uploads/researchers/therapontos.jpg I should have made this clear before. Sorry! |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
From: cryptica-ga on 04 Oct 2004 17:19 PDT |
Yes -- I guess I should beware of Greeks bearing Genitive case. Thanks for the clarification. I certainly would have printed it out the first way, so a tip of the hat to unautorized-ga. Thanks again. |
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Beware of Greeks bearing Genitive case
From: unautzorized11-ga on 05 Oct 2004 06:43 PDT |
jackburton gots that exactly right. therapon means therapist and "therapontos" is "therapon"'s genitive case. I'm really glad I have helped you, as jackburton's answer was so good that I didn't think you may need any more info. |
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Re: IT'S NOT ALL GREEK TO ME -- IS IT TO YOU?
From: cryptica-ga on 09 Oct 2004 15:28 PDT |
jackburton & unautzorized11 -- your helpful Greek tutorial has paid off. It's too long to type, so go over to my previously answered question, "Singin' A Freud Tune" and read my comment at the bottom about this, "Therapon" will be included in the program I mention -- thanks to you. |
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