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Subject:
The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education Asked by: nautico-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
05 Oct 2004 12:33 PDT
Expires: 08 Oct 2004 06:07 PDT Question ID: 410704 |
Why did teachers of English in American secondary schools stop teaching sentence diagramming and why did teachers of humanities subjects stop docking students for poorly written papers? When I was in high school (1954-57), we were taught to diagram sentences, a process that not only gave us a better grasp of their construction, but also an appreciation for rigor (not to be confused with rigidity) in English usage and syntax. Our history teachers deducted points for bad spelling, punctuation, and sentence construction, which taught us that good writing was important in courses other than English. When I went on to college, the same was true. Nowadays few young people can craft a decent sentence, and I attribute that result to the foregoing reasons. Why did we let this happen? |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Oct 2004 12:44 PDT |
I haven't a clue about why this has happened, except that it may be associated with other laxities in the rearing of young people. Simple etiquette and table manners used to be expected of children. The social graces seem to have gone by the wayside, along with the quaint notion of respecting one's elders. I find a small amount of comfort in the knowledge that middle-aged folks have been grumbling "what's the matter with kids today?" for many millennia, and the world hasn't ended yet. My parents' generation was wrong when they foretold the downfall of civilization over the earthshaking issues of Elvis's gyrations and the Beatles' hairstyles. This time, though, we are right. A handbasket to Hades is leaving on the quarter-hour. ;-) |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: nautico-ga on 05 Oct 2004 12:55 PDT |
Pink, Amen (for lack of a better word). You want my take on why this is so? You don't? Darn. I'll give it to you anyway. I don't think that today's secondary school teachers are academically equipped to recognize bad writing, much less to correct it. And I don't fault the teachers colleges for that, but rather the high schools from which those teacher candidates graduated. How can we expect students to be taught both the rudiments and importance of good writing, if their teachers don't have a clue either? <mutter, mutter> |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Oct 2004 14:47 PDT |
Incidentally, when (at the age of eleven) I first encountered sentence diagramming, I was totally enchanted by it. Along with algebra (which I discovered at around the same time,) sentence diagramming became an obsession. I diagrammed sentences for fun. My mind was filled with diagrams; I even dreamed about diagramming sentences. Imagine my dismay when I learned that there was no adult occupation of "Sentence Diagrammer," and I wasn't going to be able to do this for a living. |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: nautico-ga on 05 Oct 2004 15:42 PDT |
Pink, I CAN imagine that, and my heart goes out to that little girl who wanted nothing more than to continue diagramming for the rest of her life. |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Oct 2004 15:50 PDT |
Well, at least I finally found a job where nice people will pay me for knowing stuff. Until the day when I appear on "Senior Jeopardy!" and win a boodle by bamboozling the other geezers, Google Answers is my dream job. |
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Re: The demise of sentence diagramming and other English teaching shortfalls
From: nelson-ga on 06 Oct 2004 10:55 PDT |
Pink, are you familiar with this website? http://www.geocities.com/gene_moutoux/diagrams.htm |
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