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Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
Category: Relationships and Society > Government Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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12 Oct 2004 03:49 PDT
Expires: 24 Oct 2004 06:45 PDT Question ID: 413584 |
It has been suggested that they (or some such) did. If so, is there any supporting evidence? I am mainly interested in the situation in Germany during the Thirties ... Holland would be a bonus. As would the likely start dates. Are links to actual transcripts too much to hope for? |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: scriptor-ga on 12 Oct 2004 05:16 PDT |
I know that the Gestapo used wire tapping (at least during the war) because some years ago, I read a description of the techniques and equipment used for those purposes. Among other things, most of which I have forgotten, the use of wax records for recording tapped phone calls was mentioned. Unfortunately, I can't remember at all what the name of the book was. As for transcripts: If those are still existing, they are available in German archives as all Gestapo files. Due to the federal structure of Germany, the surviving Gestapo records of all kinds are not stored in one place. Instead, they are scattered all over the country in the Bundesarchiv and various Staats- and Landesarchive. It is impossible to say what is kept where. This official list of government archives in Germany might help: http://www.bundesarchiv.de/service/links/archive/00854/ Greetings, Scriptor |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: probonopublico-ga on 12 Oct 2004 07:01 PDT |
Hi, Scriptor We also know (from your previous work) that 'somebody' intercepted trans-Atlantic phone calls ... It's interesting that 'they' used wax records because I seem to recall that the Germans had invented tape recording sometime before the war. I read somewhere that they had shown it at a Radio Exhibition in Berlin(?) but had then withdrawn it as a secret. Many thanks for your comment. All the Best Bryan Evidently, the Americans discovered it after the war and popularised it. |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: scriptor-ga on 12 Oct 2004 07:20 PDT |
Indeed, magnetic tape recording was known. At the 12th Deutsche Funkausstellung in Berlin, August 1935, AEG presented the magnetic tape recording device "Magnetophon K 1". Following a concept developed by Theo Volk, it used a 6.5 mm wide magnetic tape, running at a speed of 1 m/s and capable of recording frequencies up to 6000 Hz. One 30-cm-reel had a recording capacity of 20 minutes. On 19 November 1936, a concert of the London Philharmonics was recorded on magnetic tape manufactured by BASF (the recording session took place in the culture centre of BASF in Ludwigshafen, by the way). This recording is still in good condition today. Some time ago, when I did some private research on the history of radio broadcasting in Germany, I found out that at least the Reichssender Berlin owned and used some tape recording devices during the war years. I wish I had made detailed notes of that. Greetings, Scriptor |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: probonopublico-ga on 12 Oct 2004 08:41 PDT |
Very many thanks for your further comment, Scriptor. I am rather disappointed that fp-ga (Freddy) has not jumped in on this ... I hope he's alright ... |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: fp-ga on 12 Oct 2004 11:29 PDT |
Hi, Bryan I'm alright, thank you ... Concerning the Netherlands I suppose the best place to ask would be "Het Nederlands Instituut voor Oorlogsdocumentatie": http://www.niod.nl/ "It is the centre in the Netherlands for information and research on the Netherlands ... during the Second World War." http://www.niod.nl/content/en/general.asp "Gestapo-Dienststellen" in the Netherlands ("Gestapo siehe Sicherheitspolizei"): http://www1.jur.uva.nl/junsv/NED/NL-Dienststelle.htm "Wire tapping" not mentioned here: "Organisationsstrukturen der deutschen Besatzungsverwaltungen in Frankreich, Belgien und den Niederlanden unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der Stellung des SS- und Polizeiapparates" (1997) http://www.ub.uni-konstanz.de/v13/volltexte/1999/115//pdf/115_1.pdf However, you are mainly interested in pre-war wire tapping? I could not find a date when tapping started. There are several books written by Heinz Boberach on the subject of Gestapo etc. These books may have the information you are looking for. Heinz Boberach: http://www.bod.de/autoren/boberach_heinz.html No date (1936, or later) "Telefonüberwachung": http://www.bnbt.de/~tr1035/bt/wer/index.htm then click on "Reissinger, Hans" |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: fp-ga on 13 Oct 2004 02:24 PDT |
Bryan, does your question only refer to the Gestapo? Or are you also interested in links mentioning the tapping by the "Forschungsamt" (Göring)? "Forschungsamt" as in http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=339504 and http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=57708 |
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Re: Did the Gestapo Go In for Wire Tapping?
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Oct 2004 04:41 PDT |
Hi, Freddy Very many thanks for the various links, as usual all are very relevant and exciting ... All the Very Best Bryan |
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