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picking up a radio station 200 miles away
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: programmer22-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
13 Oct 2004 08:25 PDT
Expires: 12 Nov 2004 07:25 PST Question ID: 414230 |
Dear Google Answers: I recently moved from Boston to northern New Jersey, close to New York City. I also work in Northern New Jersey. There is a favorite radio station that I used to listed to in Boston and I want to know if there is any way that I can pick this station up in northern New Jersey. The stations website, www.weei.com, used to stream their audio broadcasts, but has stopped doing so for over a year now. My workplace is approximately 215 miles from Boston, and my home is approximately 220 miles from Boston. This station, WEEI 850 AM, also simulcasts its broadcasts with WEEI 103.7 FM in Providence, Rhode Island. Providence is approximately 185 miles from where I work and 190 miles from where I live. If I could pick up the Providence station (which is a very powerful signal), that would be just as good. The station also simulcasts its broadcasts with WVEI 1440 AM in Worcester, MA, which is a much weaker signal, but since Worcester is only 185 miles from both my home and my workplace, if I could somehow pick up that signal here, that would also be just as good. Is there any website out there that lets you listen to any radio station in the world including WEEI 850 AM in Boston? That too would satisfy my request. Is there a special type of radio that can pick up station signals that are 200 miles away? Is there a special type of antenna that can be attached to a regualar radio that can pick up stations that are 200 miles away? Is there any other device other than a radio or the internet (if radio and internet are both incapable of picking up the WEEI signal from New Jersey) that can pick up a radio station's signal 200 miles away? Please let me know if this can be done, and where I can go to buy such a radio, antenna, or other device. An additional problem is that New York has a very powerful radio station signal, 880 AM, that could interfere with 850 AM. If I could pick up 850 AM on a special type of radio or antenna, how can it do so without interference from 880 AM in New York? Any answer that can successfully allow me to listen to WEEI 850 AM from New Jersey through any medium ASAP would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: wengland-ga on 13 Oct 2004 13:18 PDT |
Without acutally doing any reading, you can get your radio station off the air in one of two ways: 1) FM is line of sight. Get a directional (Yagi) antenna (like a TV antenna) way up on a pole so that antenna can 'see' the broadcast tower. Then hook that antenna to your radio. The GE Super Radio is really good for this. 2) AM, at night at least, will 'bounce' off the atmosphere, and you may be able to tune in if you have a very selective radio that can reject the stronger adjacent station. Again, the GE Super Radio works well for this. Over the internet, you can set up your own 'webcast' if you have a friend with a broadband connection back in the reception area. Set up a PC with "Shoutcast" or another streaming audio server, and use it to broadcase the audio from the radio station, as fed into the sound card. This will require quite a bit of technical work, as well as an always-on connection back in Boston. Just a couple of thoughts. Perhaps another researcher can check the FCC databases to find the power output, tower location and height of the FM towers, and calculate how tall of a tower you would need in New Jersey to get the line of site reception. |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: taxciter-ga on 13 Oct 2004 14:23 PDT |
If your AM receiver has a ferrite bar type antenna, try moving it around. This type antenna is more directional than the usual all-metal whip antenna. These are two off-the shelf products I know of: Select-A-Tenna selectatenna.com Terk AM Advantage terk.com |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: weeianswers-ga on 22 Dec 2004 07:34 PST |
Hello, I have an answer for you. I too worked in boston and know that you can create a private stream to listen to WEEI. You would need to have someone in the area to have a spare PC (a very old one will do) and a radio that has a earphone connector. Use an open source/freeware software like shoutcast (www.shoutcast.com) I have done this so that I can listen to the very same station in Northern Vermont. You can connect to my stream but will have to send along your email address to me through this post. It was quite helpful during the World Series run. |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: weeianswers-ga on 22 Dec 2004 07:56 PST |
A little addition to what I said: You can create your own stream by getting a low end PC connected to an always on internet connection. Maybe you have a friend that lives in the area? Download shoutcast from www.shoutcast.com. You will need their console mode application and their plugin DSC to winamp. You can download winamp at www.winamp.com Follow the instructions for installing the plugin and console application. I would also recommend a program remote viewing program like PCAnywhere or VNC. The shoutcast application needs to be restarted from time to time. The only issue that I see with using a home connection is that its IP address will change from time to time. You could write a VBS script to look up its IP address and email you the new IP address when it changes. Some ISPs block some ports but you can specify the on the shoutcast console program and should be able to get through most ISP firewalls. Make sure if you are behind a firewall or a router that you create a DMZ to the PC so that any calls to the IP will be routed to the PC. The only other issue is that MLB and WEEI stream baseball games on M-L-B.com and you should not listen to games through this stream then. I would recommend buying the annual stream from M-L-B.com so that you would not violate any aseball rules. After you are set up, you can stream your station by connecting to the IP thusly http://<your_IP_Address>:8000/listen.pls. The stream can be set at the lowest settings I have mine at 24kbps at 22khz mono. This is perfectly fine and great sound quality and is not taxing of most connections. I have had friends in Saudi arabia (no lie) listen to the stream to catch up on BOston happenings. Its a shame that WEEI's parent E n t e r c o m is so unwilling to allow them to stream. They decided this for all their stations - eventhough they were concerned with just financial liabilities in relation to the FCC decision about streaming music. Good luck... |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: programmer22-ga on 23 Dec 2004 11:57 PST |
Thank you very much, weei-answers! I have been waiting for such a ong time to hear WEEI again, and it looks like I might be able to. I was just wondering: If I were to download shoutcast and follow its instructions, what would my contact in Boston have to do? Would they need to hook up a radio to their computer? Stupid question: If my contact in Boston would have a DSL connection (which is always connected), could this audio stream be done with the computer turned off? What other steps would have to be followed by my contact in Boston for this to work? My e-mail address is: brightoner1@yahoo.com. Thank you very much for offering to let me connect to your stream. Ideally, I would like my own stream so as not to overburden you, but for the time being, this will do, as I try to work out the logistics of an audio stream. If only I would have heard from someone like you before the World Series run. Thank you very much again for your reply! |
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Re: picking up a radio station 200 miles away
From: weeianswers-ga on 28 Dec 2004 09:02 PST |
The World Series run was great. My brother and friends really enjoyed having the stream up and running for that. I am replying to you here so others may learn what to do. I will separate my directions into two parts, the server and the client. This is like the transmitter and the receiver. The Server (the transmitter): What you need: - old PC - radio with a headphone/earphone out connection - 1/8 inch jack to a 1/8th inch jack 6ft cable - always on internet connection. - shoutcast DSP (http://www.shoutcast.com/download/serve.phtml) - winamp http://www.winamp.com - shoutcast/winamp plugin (http://www.shoutcast.com/download/broadcast.phtml) - winVNC (http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) All the above are free ... You must connect the radio tuned to your radio station and connect the 1/8 to 1/8 cable to the "mic" or line in connection on the sound card of your PC. This PC must be located so that it can receive your station (W E E I). The PC must always be on to stream this connection. Sometimes an old laptop works nice too, because it is quite small and doesn't make alot of noise. The VNC product is a remote control program (there are better programs out ther but this is free) You will need to set it up in server mode. you will need to use this when there is something wrong with your stream and you need to get on your transmitting computer. It is better not to bug the person who is hooking you up all the time,so you can fix things yourself. Winamp is who created this whole setup and the product works whrough the winamp program. The shoutcast winamp plugin is run on the transmitting computer and converts your radio input into a digital signal and then sends it to the Shoutcast server program. The shoutcast server, receives the stream from the winamp/shoutcast plugin and then allows other computers to receive its signal. You will need the computers IP address to connect to it via another computer. As I said before, if this computer is behind a firewall or router, you should create a DMZ to allow it to run. You can follow the routers manual to figure out how to do this. The Client/receiver: You need to have: - computer (of course) - vnc (app mode) - real player or winamp very simple part here. You just need vnc if somthing is not working and you need to connect to the server computer. otherwise use realplayer or winamp to listen to your stream. what would be nice here is that you should document what you have done and let others know how to do this. I think I am one of the only people doing this on a prirat basis, but I think that it would get some stations (especially talk radio stations to stream their stations) BTW: you may find a simpler way to do this, I have seen a coupe of other products out there. I will email you personally and we can converse more about what you need to to. I hope I answered all your questions as well. But just to review, the radio and PC would have to be on all the time for this to work. Merry Xmas, - W E E I A N S W E R S |
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