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Subject: banks in the uk
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: jimedler-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 13 Oct 2004 10:44 PDT
Expires: 12 Nov 2004 09:44 PST
Question ID: 414303
i want information about CERTITUDE TRUST FINANCE an offshore bank in the uk.

Request for Question Clarification by answerfinder-ga on 13 Oct 2004 11:35 PDT
Dear jimedler-ga,
Here in the UK, the Financial Services Authority 'FSA' is responsible
for the supervision of banks. Banks operating in the UK must be
registered with the FSA. I have checked their database and no
CERTITUDE TRUST FINANCE is registered. Have you some more information
about them? Address? Telephone number, etc.
I'm guessing here (pardon me if I am wrong), but is this in connection
with a lottery, or a sum of money dormant in account which you have
been notified about? If so, then I can provide some useful guidance as
it may be a scam.
answerfinder-ga

Clarification of Question by jimedler-ga on 13 Oct 2004 12:35 PDT
CERTITUDE TRUST FINANCE HOUSE
77 PLUMSTEAD ROAD
LONDON
28SE 4DH
 

TEL: 07985311772
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Subject: Re: banks in the uk
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 14 Oct 2004 00:46 PDT
 
Dear Jim,
It is a scam. It is a fraud. Do not contact this bank or have any
further communication with them or whoever contacted you. I speak from
my experience: I am a retired police officer who served 15 years with
the Fraud Squad, New Scotland Yard, dealing with this type of crime.

These people are trying to extract money from you. They will ask you
for more money for so-called lawyers? fees, security clearance
documents, customs fees, deposit to open a bank account, and they will
ask you to travel to another country to collect the money. There, they
will extract more money from you. The list is endless. It only stops
when you refuse to pay anymore. I warn you however, that they are very
persuasive, and I recommend that you have no further communication
with them. I have known victims to lose thousand of dollars in this
fraud ? even though they suspected it was a fraud.

These law enforcement sites will provide background information on this fraud.
New Scotland Yard
 http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm 
US Secret Service
http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml 

Why do I give this answer?

The bank is not registered with the UK?s Financial Services Authority
and is therefore committing a serious criminal offence.
http://www.fsa.gov.uk

The telephone number supplied is a mobile telephone.
The post code is incorrect 

The domain name of  certitudetrustuk.com was only registered on 23
September 2004. The registrant is an individual in Nigeria (probably a
false name). The contact email for the registrant is an yahoo email.
The site copyright states 2003.


Domain registration:

Created on: 23-Sep-04

Kelly Martins
Eleganza Building
7th floor Adeyomo street
Lagos 0000
Nigeria

Andre4dans@yahoo.co.uk

Source
http://www.whois.sc/certitudetrustuk.com

There a number of others discrepancies that I could point out to you.
Also there is Probonopublico's comments below (although I would not
recommend this approach).

All of this indicates to me that it is a fraud. Once again do not
contact these people.

Do not hesitate to ask for clarification of any of this.

Thank you
answerfinder

Search strategy
Personal knowledge and known web sites.
Comments  
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Oct 2004 21:16 PDT
 
Beware!

According to my database, there isn't such an address as 77 Plumstead
Road and there is no such Post Code as 28SE 4DH.

There is a 99 Plumstead Road whose Post Code is SE18 7DN.

As you may know, UK Post Codes always start with characters, not
numbers. Also addresses that are close typically have the same first 3
or 4 digits, often more.

As you will appreciate, the telephone number is for a Mobile.

I phoned the number last night and I did suspect that the man who
answered might be Nigerian. I spoke to him about some mythical deal
that I had for him worth £10 million and he seemed interested.

Worth reporting!

Over too you.

All the Best

Probo
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: jimedler-ga on 13 Oct 2004 21:45 PDT
 
www.certitudetrustuk.com
PLEEAS CONTACT THE ABOVE ADDRESS AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!! JIM EDLER
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Oct 2004 22:08 PDT
 
Hi, Jim

Have looked at the site and YES it's yet another Nigerian scam but I
have never seen this one before.

They are almost certainly operating illegally because, as Answerfinder
has advised, all UK banks and 'depositaries' have to be authorised by
the FSA.

Do not trust them with ANYTHING, not even your bank account details.
If you have already done so, advise your bank, etc. IMMEDIATELY.

I would be interested to know how they operate.

Ask yourself, would a reputable bank work from a false address and
give a mobile as a telephone contact?

Probo
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Oct 2004 00:57 PDT
 
Wow, Answerfinder

I never knew that you were an ex-cop!

I used to have an involvement with the Computer Crime Unit which, I
suppose, is no more.

Small world.

All the Best

Bryan
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: frde-ga on 14 Oct 2004 02:40 PDT
 
Further two AnswerFinder's and Probono's excellent advice, you might
be interested in looking at this site: www.419eater.com

It is the home of about 2000 people Worldwide who have taken it on
themselves to make 419 scammers lives a misery, partly by wasting
their time and pulling their tails, and partly by launching web
attacks against fake banks.

Curiously 419 scam (Advanced Fee Fraud) appears to be primarily
Nigerian in origin, and is reputed to be Nigeria's biggest export
earner after oil.
It is incredibly difficult to quantify the annual take as the majority
of fraud victims are embarrassed, however the operation is well
organized, pretty high tech and has tendrils that reach out over most
of the World.

You might also be interested in these:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1438872.stm     
http://www.419legal.com/
Subject: Re: banks in the uk
From: rai130-ga on 14 Oct 2004 07:12 PDT
 
Look up this plumstead road on www.multimap.com and you'll see its not
likely to be a major world bank... actually, its very close to
Belmarsh Prison (one of the most high security in the UK)... they
could be operating from inside... naughty nigerians!

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