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Subject: Wille Sarath
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts
Asked by: mikey450-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 13 Oct 2004 15:05 PDT
Expires: 15 Nov 2004 14:05 PST
Question ID: 414439
I have a landscape of Wille Sarath, I would like to know more about the artist.
here are a couple of images of the landscape and signature.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/mikey450/willesarath.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/mikey450/DSC00454.jpg

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 13 Oct 2004 15:47 PDT
Dear mikey450,

Unfortunately, it is not possible to view the images. Several
Researchers have tried to and were only re-directed to an default
Photobucket screen. Maybe a problem had occurred?

Scriptor

Request for Question Clarification by googleexpert-ga on 13 Oct 2004 20:56 PDT
Hi mikey450,
I can not view the images as well.
It seems like there is password protection.

If possible, can you upload these landscape images at 
http://imageshack.us/

There is no registration required to upload images at imageshack.us.

Thanks.

-googleexpert
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The following answer was rejected by the asker (they reposted the question).
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 14 Oct 2004 07:17 PDT
 
Dear mikey450,

I finally managed to view the image showing the entire painting. Using
special software, I enlaged the part with the signature and then
carefully analyzed it, considering all possible interpretations.
Finally I came to the conclusion that the signature must definitely be
"Willgerodt".

Willgerodt is a rare German family name. So I went to the library and
consulted the various art encyclopedias. And I was successful: There
was one single painter of the name Willgerodt. Here is what I found
out about him:


Willgerodt, Werner
Portrait and landscape painter, graphic artist. Born on 27 June 1885
in Braunschweig. Student of the academy of Kassel under L. Koltiz, C.
Brünner and K. Wünnenberg, and of the academy of Königsberg under
Heinrich Wolff. Working in the town of Arolsen. Drawings portfolios:
Rothenburg ob der Tauber (12 drawings), Westerwald forest (24
drawings), Weather (12 drawings), Harz mountains (12 drawings), Home
Country Dillkreis (12 drawings).
Literature:
Dreßler's Kunsthandbuch, 1930/III
Hessenkunst, 1925, p.1 ff (with illustration)
Hessenkunst, 1929, p.7 of the advertisement chapter
Catalog of the Great Art Exhibition, Berlin 1924, p.82

Source:
Allgemeines Lexikon der bildenden Künstler, edited by Hans Vollmer.
Volume 36. Published by E.A. Seemann, Leipzig 1947.

Since Willgerodt's date of death is not mentioned in that 1947
encyclopedia article, it is possible that he was still alive and
working then. However, the current 1999 edition of that art
encyclopedia does not list the date of death either.

By the way: The painting you own depicts, without any doubt, the
Lüneburger Heide [Lüneburg Heath], a picturesque region in North
Germany I am familiar with.


I hope that this information is helpful and interesting for you.
Best regards,
Scriptor

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 14 Oct 2004 09:31 PDT
A brief addition: I found Werner Willgerodt mentioned in a description
of the history of the Christian Rauch School in Arolsen, where the
artist lived and worked according to the encyclopedia article:

"Thus, it seemed on 26 November 1945 that for the 85 boys and 71 girls
who stayed in the classes they had belonged to in March 1945,
education was assured by director Heinemann, Marianne Schwede and
Werner Willgerodt, who were recognized as  politically unencumbered
persons. (...) With this small teaching staff, 'lesson hour zero'
began at Arolsen grammar school in winter 1945/46."

Source:
Christian Rauch Schule - Bad Arolsen: Geschichte - Vom Kriegsende bis
zur Bildungsreform (PDF file)
http://www.crs-multimedial.de/geschichte/05.pdf

I have not the slightest doubt that this Werner Willgerodt is the same
person, given the rareness of the name in connection with the small
town. This might be some interesting background information, and it
proves that Werner Willgerodt was still alive in late 1945.

Regards,
Scriptor

Request for Answer Clarification by mikey450-ga on 14 Oct 2004 15:14 PDT
I would like to get a visual on his signature so that I may match his
signature with the paintings I already posses.  You say the name of
the artist is Werner Willgerodt, but I haven't been able to find a
second signatuer to reference mine.  If you could provide one, I would
appreciate it.

http://img100.exs.cx/img100/3512/BillySarath.jpg

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/9986/BillySarath1.jpg

This are new pictures, if you could provide me new iformation on this
artist, i will appreciate it.  I am willing to pay for the new info
and the old one as well.  however, I need something concrete so that i
may reference it to my paintings.  I am sure you can understand as
this paintings are important to me.

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 14 Oct 2004 15:33 PDT
Dear mikey450,

The signature on the landscape painting and on Theodore Roosevelt's
portrait are definitely NOT identical. I was referring to this
landscape painting you provided:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/willgerodt1.jpg

Here is the enlarged signature; it clearly reads Willgerodt:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/willgerodt2.jpeg

There can be no doubt that these two paintings have been signed by two
different persons. I can't see how to make any connection between the
landscape painting this question was about and the Roosevelt portrait.

Regards,
Scriptor

Request for Answer Clarification by mikey450-ga on 14 Oct 2004 18:59 PDT
My mistake.
They are two different artist.And i would like information on both of them.
I like the research you did on wille erode but i need to see some of
his work (signiture) Billy Sarath i also need information on him
This is my first time doing this kind of work.What ever you can do i will pay for.
Best Regards
Mikey450ga

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 15 Oct 2004 04:57 PDT
Dear mikey450,

Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do about that other artist,
Billy Sarath. It is not a matter of payment - I would really like to
work on that additional question. I just have not been able to find
anything about that painter.
Since the original question has been answered, may I suggest that you
open a new question for that other painting? Maybe one of my American
colleagues can find information.

Best regards,
Scriptor

Request for Answer Clarification by mikey450-ga on 16 Oct 2004 11:23 PDT
I am not happy with your research i ask you that i would like to se
some  of his paintings other so i can compare his  signitures.
And i assumed you would send them to me The answer is not answered as
far as im concernd.

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 16 Oct 2004 13:20 PDT
With all due respect: Werner Willgerodt was a second-rate painter, so
unimportant that the most complete multivolume German art encyclopedia
grants him only seven lines. Finding any of his works would be mere
luck.
Besides that, in your original question you did not ask for any
additional works or signatures. You wanted to know more about the
artist, and that is what I provided you.

If you don't like the answer I gave you, you may request a full refund:
http://answers.google.com/answers/refundrequest

Scriptor
Reason this answer was rejected by mikey450-ga:
I was not happy with the answer I received from this particular
person.   she did not supply me with proof that the artist she said
had painted my portrait.  she provided me with some paintings without
signatures.  I want proof that the person who she said painted my
portrait, painted my portrait.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
From: fp-ga on 17 Oct 2004 05:06 PDT
 
Three drawings by Werner Willgerodt (including signature):

http://www.galerie-jacobsa.de/s_bild_k.php3?givenn=Willgerodt&givevn=Werner
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
From: mikey450-ga on 18 Oct 2004 13:53 PDT
 
I look at the 3 images of Werner willgerodt and determined that he was not the
artist in my image and the signiture did not match the signiture in my image.
I think you fabricated your story to match my signature of my artist
I am still looking for the artist in my image.
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
From: scriptor-ga on 19 Oct 2004 09:14 PDT
 
Dear mikey450,

Please correct me if I am wrong, but that means you are accusing me of
lying. If you feel dissatisfied with the correct answer to your
question, it's one thing. But don't say that I am a liar. There is no
need for insulting me.

Scriptor
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
From: fp-ga on 19 Oct 2004 14:04 PDT
 
A signature on a drawing may not be the same as on a painting.

According to
://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Werner+Willgerodt%22+OR+%22Willgerodt+Werner%22+marburg+elwert

prints of the drawings by Werner Willgerodt were published by Elwert
(Marburg, Germany).
Perhaps Elwert could give you a definitive answer. They are still in Marburg:
http://www.elwert.de/ansprechpartner.html-ssi
http://www.elwert.de/

You can contact them by using this form:
http://www.elwert.de/kontakt.asp


There was an artist called Dora Willgerodt-Brünner. However, I do not
know how she signed her paintings:
http://www.das-antikhaus.de/ankauf.htm

Unfortunately, this Antikhaus is currently closed:
http://www.das-antikhaus.de/
Subject: Re: Wille Sarath
From: mikey450-ga on 19 Oct 2004 16:35 PDT
 
I never called you a lyler. i would never call anyone that. I just said that the
information was not that artist.His signature was not the one
w.willgerot you said was my artist. I think you are a good researcher
i just think you were wrong on this one. I am back where i started.
mikey450
Subject: Wille erode I like to identifed the artist
From: mikey450-ga on 04 Nov 2004 12:13 PST
 
Have a landscape painting that i would like to identifed the artist
And i would like to compare the signiture.
And see other works by this artist.
He signed his name with L incorperated in Wille WLille
If you have any information.

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