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Subject: high school girls
Category: Family and Home
Asked by: modon-ga
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Posted: 18 Oct 2004 19:12 PDT
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Question ID: 416763
1. Why does high school girls thinks that math is the waste of time?
2. Why does they thinks that they will be unattractive by boys if they
typed as "brains"
3. Is science and math epitomize unfeminine braininess in a way that,
say, foreign language do not.
4. High school girls who purse an advanced interest in science and
math is she usually find that they are greatly outnumbered by boys in
their classes.
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Subject: Re: high school girls
From: leapinglizard-ga on 18 Oct 2004 19:27 PDT
 
1. It seems to me that an even greater number of boys disdain math,
and I recall reading several studies to that effect. Math is too
abstract a subject for most people to appreciate.

2. I am not and have never been a high-school girl, but from what I
recall of high school, no girls thought they would become unattractive
solely by dint of becoming brainy. In fact, intelligence and wit are
acknowledge as desirable traits in both sexes. I have found it to be
the case, however, that people who devote a great deal of energy to
cultivating their appearance have little left over for study.

3. Yes, science and math are much more strongly associated with the
nerd stereotype than are foreign languages. This is because science
and math have strong abstract components, but foreign languages have
practical value. Furthermore, it is much less damaging to one's image
to speak a foreign tongue than to prod calculator buttons. Languages
that do have a greater nerd factor are those that require ideographic
writing, namely Japanese and Chinese, as well as the classical ones:
Latin, Hebrew, Greek.

4. Yes, figures show that boys still outnumber girls in advanced
science and math courses, but this is rapidly changing. The asymmetry
may eventually be reversed.

leapinglizard
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: frde-ga on 19 Oct 2004 09:26 PDT
 
Hormones

From long past experience I reckon that sexual apartheid is essential.
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: policajo-ga on 19 Oct 2004 12:11 PDT
 
One of the core-benefits of Google-answers is the efficiency it brings
to its readers.

Having to translate bad grammar and malapropisms into standard English
detracts from the efficiency of this service.

Can we ask, on behalf of this user/reader community, that all postings
are placed with at least the minimum of care in regards to gramar and
word-choice.
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: frde-ga on 20 Oct 2004 00:29 PDT
 
To be fair it looks as if modon-ga is not a native English speaker

To paraphrase: 'it is not that it is done well, it is that it is done at all'
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: 99of9-ga on 20 Oct 2004 04:30 PDT
 
I also strongly disagree with Policajo.

1) As frde mentions, modon is clearly not a native English speaker. 
Therefore modon has probably already put in *maximum* care regarding
word choice and grammar just to get his/her point across.

2) Google answers is a service to the questioner.  You and I, as
non-paying visitors surely do not have any right to request/demand
that the paying questioner should act in a particular way we like.

3) In my view GA appears to be primarily about answering questions
efficiently and accurately.  Surely the time spent answering a
question is dominated by the time spent researching the question, and
writing the answer.  I do not think that a few extra seconds it may
take the answerer to understand the question are really going to
change that picture much.

4) It is well known that those who criticize the grammar of others on
the internet are likely to be subject to intense scrutiny themselves. 
Therefore Policajo might like to take "at least the minimum of care in
regards to GRAMMAR" and spelling.  Just in case someone looks at your
post a little harder than you carelessly hoped they would :-).
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: legion5-ga on 23 Oct 2004 19:41 PDT
 
The answer is very simple actualy, all other answers to this are
WRONG, I would almost garantee this.
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There are essentialy two types of thinking, similar to left brain right brain.

They are labeled in variouse manners but essentialy go like this:

Conciouse, Logical

and

Unconciouse, Emotional

-

The sexual interactions between a male and a female are complex to an
incredible extent, one may lable the 'popular' people as being dim
wits, but in fact their social interactions take about as much
thinking as solving the most complext mathematical problems.

These though go usualy un-noticed because they are completly
subversive and un-conciouse, it is very difficult to in fact become
one with understanding the intractions here in.

-

Girls have incredibly well developed social abilities, a relativley
good estimate of this would be about ten times as good as most men.

Taking a substantialy difficult mathematics course obviously requires
intense amounts of Logical thinking, while on the other hand a
language is unconciouse thinking, and/or social/emotional; what this
means is essentialy, unless you have a substantialy elevated IQ, you
will have difficulty having both prowess socialy and prowess in
logical studies, such as the maths and sciences.

So essentialy, what having that mathematical prowess will mean; is
that you have virtualy no personality; to anyone who would argue this,
the 'exceptions' one would use to counter, are called for the most
part, there are some exceptions, but: cliche personalities, ie one is
able to do variouse uncreative things, which are easily caught by
people with actual personalities, but would fool others without; in
any case.

Having this mathematicaly prowess will mean is that you have virtualy
no personality, which essentialy means you are unatractive.

This isn't a direct relation, it is the inverse of it.

Hope that answers the question.

High school girls hate math cuz they are attractive.
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: probonopublico-ga on 23 Oct 2004 23:05 PDT
 
I note Policajo-ga eloquent plea for better gramar care:

QUOTE:

Can we ask, on behalf of this user/reader community, that all postings
are placed with at least the minimum of care in regards to gramar and
word-choice.

UNQUOTE

But shouldn't we also be concerned with better grandad care?
Subject: Re: high school girls
From: curious_-ga on 25 Oct 2004 08:55 PDT
 
Girls are more likely to think of themselves as social rather than
analytical, and they are more likely to idealize the social aspect of
their personality over the analytical one.

I student taught at a preschool during college and it was striking how
when a little girl arrived the teachers would make a big deal about
the little pink flowers on her shirt or shoes, while when a boy
arrived they'd lead him over to the trucks and trains and climbing
equipment.  Socialization has a powerful influence, and by the time
kids reach high school, math and science seem downright unfeminine.

At high school age, girls are trying to develop their identity as
female.  Since their culture does not provide female mathematicians,
engineers and scientists with the same attention it lavishes on pop
stars, models, and trophy wives, high school girls zero in on a target
self that has no need for math.  She is successful due to her looks,
charms, cultured appearance, language abilities, social personality,
etc.  Even the traditional role of housewife/motherhood does not
require a knowledge of math and science.

In essence, our society's feminine ideal is not academically
successful but socially cunning and attractive.

Until our society's ideals change, many women will continue to be cast
in the ignorant anti-math, anti-science, (anti-rationality and
pre-enlightenment!) mold.

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