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Subject: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: nautico-ga
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Posted: 19 Oct 2004 12:39 PDT
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Question ID: 417109
The recent brouhaha over the motorized logistics platoon's refusal to
obey an order to resupply combat units in an area they thought too
hazardous in light of their vehicles' poor protection raises the
question of what constitutes a defensible refusal to obey such an
order.

From Art 90, UCMJ: Willfully assaulting or disobeying a superior
commissioned officer.

(2) Disobeying superior commissioned officer. 

(a) Lawfulness of the order. 

(i) Inference of lawfulness. An order requiring the performance of a
military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed
at the peril of the subordinate. This inference does not apply to a
patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a
crime.

A subordinate who, understanding the above, still chooses to disobey
an order does indeed do so at his or her peril. And yet in this
instance, if charges are brought and if these soldiers stand trial, I
submit that a good defense counsel able to prove the bases for their
fears and resultant refusal to obey will be able to gain acquittals on
an assertion that the order was unlawful within the meaning of the
Code. This would raise another interesting question: was the
president's initial ordering of troops into battle unlawful in those
instances where the troops' persons and their vehicles were
inadequately armored?

Are there any similar cases on record where an order was deemed
unlawful, not because the ordering officer sought to send his men into
harm's way, but because he did so knowing they had inadequate
protection, especially if that protection were attainable? Would the
officer's order be any more lawful, if the entire force of which his
unit was a part was inadequately protected? It could be, I suppose,
that in the current instance the soldiers who disobeyed orders could
be convicted of that offense, but that the officer giving them could
also be charged with dereliction of duty.

What say you?

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 22 Oct 2004 05:48 PDT
Setting aside the recent event, what kinds of orders might be validly
construed as unlawful, other than those that direct the commission of
a crime? What about frivolous orders: "I don't have time to shop for
groceries today. I want you (an enlisted subordinate) to do that for
me." Then there are orders that relate to sexual harrassment for which
I needn't cite examples. They are clearly unlawful within the letter
and spirit of the Code (Art. 133, Conduct unbecoming an officer and
gentleman, and Art. 134, "...all disorders and neglects to the
prejudice of good order and discipline....").

And what about crimes under international law, war atrocities for
example? LT Caley's orders that resulted in Vietnam's Mai Lai massacre
were surely unlawful and could have been disobeyed with relative
impunity.

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 23 Oct 2004 15:00 PDT
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Subject: Re: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 23 Oct 2004 15:12 PDT
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Dear nautico-ga;

Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting
question. Since you are agreeable to my information as an answer I am
simply reposting here at your request in order to officially close
your question:

When a military member receives an order, he presumes it to be lawful,
unless it is "patently illegal" or "directs the commission of a
crime". (MCM, Part IV,  14(c)(2)(a)(i) states that "[a]n order
requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to
be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This
inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that
directs the commission of a crime.")

According to the Manual for Courts-Martial, (Article 92) a general
order or regulation is "lawful unless it is contrary to the
Constitution, the laws of the United States, or lawful superior orders
or for some other reason is beyond the authority of the official
issuing it."

Manual for Courts-Martial
(Chapter 16, Page 300)
http://www.jag.navy.mil/documents/mcm2000.pdf

In my own personal military experience, there are no unlawful orders
that are not contrary to law, even if that law happens to be a
regulation in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If superior orders
you to mop the floor with your hat and put it back on your head, you
are obligated to mop well and wear your hat with pride - or risk the
potential perils of disobedience.


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nautico-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
Thanks. I, too, am ex-military. Retired as a LCDR USN in '83.

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Subject: Re: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
From: tutuzdad-ga on 21 Oct 2004 13:32 PDT
 
I don't think enough reliable information has been forthcoming to
enable speculation about this recent event. I personally predict that
it will end quietly, if not suprisingly.

tutuzdad-ga
Subject: Re: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
From: tutuzdad-ga on 22 Oct 2004 16:54 PDT
 
When a military member receives an order, he presumes it to be lawful,
unless it is "patently illegal" or "directs the commission of a
crime". (MCM, Part IV, ¶ 14(c)(2)(a)(i) states that "[a]n order
requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to
be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This
inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that
directs the commission of a crime.")

According to the Manual for Courts-Martial, (Article 92) a general
order or regulation is "lawful unless it is contrary to the
Constitution, the laws of the United States, or lawful superior orders
or for some other reason is beyond the authority of the official
issuing it."

Manual for Courts-Martial
(Chapter 16, Page 300)
http://www.jag.navy.mil/documents/mcm2000.pdf

In my own personal military exerience, there are no unlawful orders
that are not contrary to law, even if that law  happens to be the a
regulation in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If superior orders
you to mop the floor with your hat and put it back on your head, you
are obligated to mop well and wear your hat with pride - or risk the
potential perils of disobedience.

tutuzdad-ga
Subject: Re: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
From: tutuzdad-ga on 22 Oct 2004 16:57 PDT
 
I view of the fact that there is no list of "unlawful orders" that are
not technically unlawful, I'd be pleased if you'd let me know if I
have answered your question.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
Subject: Re: Soldiers accused of disobeying lawful order
From: nautico-ga on 23 Oct 2004 05:15 PDT
 
Sure, make it your answer!

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