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Subject:
dual citizenship with Austria
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: lorelei12-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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21 Oct 2004 05:36 PDT
Expires: 20 Nov 2004 04:36 PST Question ID: 418001 |
I was born in Austria to a German father (in 1942). I had Austrian citizenship until 1976, when I obtained US citizenship and was forced to relinquish my Austrian citizenship. I would like to regain Austrian citizenship, without giving up US citizenship (my children are here). Under what circumstances is this possible? Thank you, Linde Rachel |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
Answered By: tar_heel_v-ga on 21 Oct 2004 06:41 PDT Rated: |
Linde... Thanks for your question. The group in Austria that makes the determination for dual citizenships is Amter der Landesregierungen, or the provincial government where you last had residence in Austria prior to renouncing your Austrian citizenship. The only issue there is that the request to maintain a dual citizenship must be submitted PRIOR to becoming a citizen of another country and the requirements are very stiff and, from what I can gather, it is very rarely granted. However, there are a couple of ways to re-acquire Austrian citizenship: A female (Austrian) citizen who lost Austrian citizenship prior to 09/01/1983 because of getting married to an alien may re-obtain her Austrian citizenship if she applies for it within two (2) years after her husband's death or her being divorced from him. or An Austrian national who had lost Austrian citizenship may regain it if at this time he/she has lived in Austria (permanent residence) for at least one year and was an Austrian national for at least ten (10) years before losing Austrian citizenship. So, if you move back (assuming you are not there now) to Austria and live there for one year, it is possible to regain your Austrian citizenship, however, by living outside of the United States to seek citizenship (naturalization) you would be required to renounce your US citizenship. According to Title 8, chapter 12, subchapter III, part III, paragraph 1481 of the US code: "A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality? (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years;" http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001481----000-.html Notice the key words being "voluntarily" and "intention of relinquishing". By definition, seeking another citizenship you have the intention of renouncing US citizenship. I would recommend contacting one of the two facilities below to get detailed information as well as an immigration attorney either here or in Austria: Austrian Consulate General 31 East 69th St. New York, NY 10021 Tel.: (212) 737-6400 Fax: (212) 772-8926 Austrian Embassy Washington 3524 International Court NW Washington, DC 20008-3035 Tel.: (202) 895-6700 Fax: (202) 895-6750 Thanks for your question. If you need any additional clarification, please let me know. Regards, -THV Search Strategy: regain austrian citizenship Austrian Citizenship http://www.aussenministerium.at/view.php3?r_id=1697&LNG=en&version= Citizenship and Political Participation of Migrants in Europe http://www.publiek-politiek.nl/europa/polpart.html Questions and answers on dual US/other citizenship http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#natrnc | |
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Your answer has been quite good, but didn't answer the most critical point. In another previous discussion on dual citizenship, Austria was one country where it was possible under certain conditions. I'm still not sure what specifically is involved with regard to those conditions. |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
From: ga1970-ga on 22 Oct 2004 04:00 PDT |
Above answer says: " (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years;" http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001481----000-.html Notice the key words being "voluntarily" and "intention of relinquishing". By definition, seeking another citizenship you have the intention of renouncing US citizenship. " I wouldn't agree with the above statement, based on my understanding of the information given on the following website: http://www.richw.org/dualcit - which was also given at the end of the answer - (Dual Citizenship FAQ: Dual Nationality and United States Law by Rich Wales) This is an excerpt from that website: " Loss of citizenship (INA § 349, 8 USC § 1481) Section 349 of the INA [8 USC § 1481] specifies several conditions under which US citizenship M A Y be lost. These include: becoming a naturalized citizen of another country, or declaring allegiance to another country, after reaching age 18; serving as an officer in a foreign country's military service, or serving in the armed forces of a country which is engaged in hostilities against the US; working for a foreign government (e.g., in political office or as a civil servant); formally renouncing one's US citizenship before duly authorized US officials; or committing treason against, or attempting or conspiring to overthrow the government of, the US. The primary effect of recent developments in the US regarding dual citizenship has been to add the requirement that loss of citizenship can only result when the person in question intended to give up his citizenship. AT ONE TIME, THE MERE PERFORMANCE OF THE ABOVE (OR CERTAIN OTHER) ACTS WAS ENOUGH TO CAUSE LOSS OF US CITIZENSHIP; HOWEVER, THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED THIS CONCEPT IN THE Afroyim and Terrazas cases, and Congress amended the law in 1986 to require that LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP WOULD RESULT ONLY WHEN a potentially "expatriating" (citizenship-losing) ACTION WAS PERFORMED voluntarily and "WITH THE INTENTION OF RELINQUISHING UNITED STATES NATIONALITY". On 16 April 1990, the State Department adopted a new policy on dual citizenship, under which US citizens who perform one of the potentially expatriating acts listed above are normally presumed not to have done so with intent to give up US citizenship. Thus, the overwhelming majority of loss-of-citizenship cases nowadays will involve people who have explicitly indicated to US consular officials that they want to give up their US citizenship. " I am not an expert, and I have no US (or Austrian) connections. Tar Heel V-ga, considering the above excerpt, would you agree with me on this particular point ? Great answer btw. |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
From: tar_heel_v-ga on 22 Oct 2004 06:16 PDT |
ga1970... Thanks for your well researched comment. I read the same passage as you and had the same initial concerns. However, my interpretation is while a person moving to another country for the sole purpose of becoming a naturalized citizen is considered a voluntary act by the person knowing that becoming a naturalized citizen of another country NORMALLY requires renouncing citizenship in the United States. The other issue that rears its head is that Austria normally does not allow citizens to hold a passport of another country (http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=41&sid=5268880), so there are other circumstances here outside of US regulations. Thanks again, ga1970. I went back and looked at some of your other comments and it is commentors like you that help make Google Answers a great service. Thanks! -THV |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
From: ga1970-ga on 22 Oct 2004 07:44 PDT |
:-) |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
From: klaus777-ga on 26 Oct 2004 13:24 PDT |
Few months ago I read a lot on this topic. Here are my few cents. The requirement for a proof that one will contribute to the Austrian state is of course strong if you want to get the Austrian citizenship. The way to go around this is to become Austrian first and then apply for the permission for acquiring a second citisenship. In this case, it is sufficient to prove that the second citizenship is important for your familly. Well, then the issue is is it worth to guive up the US citizenship first and apply for it few years months later? More over, I was said by the Austrian Authorities that becomming a dual citizenship has been made practically impossible by the FPÖ. Finally, I would like to point out that the decision about dual citizenship is made in Austria by the "Bundesministerieum für Innere" instead of "Amt der Landesregierung", which partly justifies the difficulties. I hope this will be helpful. cheers, Klaus. |
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Re: dual citizenship with Austria
From: lorelei12-ga on 26 Oct 2004 14:36 PDT |
I want to thank Klaus for his answer. I felt it was extremely useful to me. At this point, relinquishing US citizenship is apparently not too terrible when you have family in the US. But these things can change, of course. Thanks. Linde |
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