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CO2 and Global Warming
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: frde-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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23 Oct 2004 09:13 PDT
Expires: 22 Nov 2004 08:13 PST Question ID: 418943 |
With my rudimentary knowledge of chemistry (and physics), I fail to see how CO2 contributes to global warming. There is not much of it, it is heavy, and without it we would starve. I've also seen a few 'authoritive' dismissals. |
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Re: CO2 and Global Warming
From: help4u-ga on 23 Oct 2004 11:10 PDT |
The greenhouse effect results because certain gases in the atmosphere (water vapor, carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, and methane, for example)permit incoming solar radiation to reach the surface of the Earth unhindered but restricts the outward flow of infrared radiation. They absorb and reradiate this outgoing radiation, effectively storing some of the heat in the atmosphere, thus producing a net warming of the surface. According to National Geographic (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/lessons/07/g912/co2.html) :- ** Causes of the greenhouse effect ** Carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and other gases are transparent to incoming sunlight, allowing the heat from the sun to enter Earth's atmosphere. These gases trap the heat close to the Earth's surface, warming the atmosphere. Fuel combustion is the largest human-made source of carbon dioxide. Deforestation is the second largest human-made source. ** Possible outcomes related to the greenhouse effect ** From 1860 to 1994 carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose from 280 to more than 350 parts per million. A network of scientists organized by the United Nations predicts that by 2100 continued emissions of carbon dioxide at current rates might raise global temperatures and sea levels. Islands and shorelines could be inundated, climate zones could shift, and weather could grow more turbulent. ** Uncertainties ** Due to the climate system's complexity, computer simulations of warming and its impacts are, by nature, imprecise. Skeptics say that conclusions drawn from such simulations form a weak basis for international action. Major uncertainties include the role of clouds in warming or cooling the atmosphere and the role of oceans in absorbing atmospheric heat and carbon dioxide. For further information & myths associated with the Green house effect you can checkout these links : - http://www.science.gmu.edu/~zli/ghe.html http://www.epa.gov/globalwarming/kids/greenhouse.html Also it's not factually correct that "There is not much of it (CO2)" . In nature, carbon is plentiful and dynamic. Its natural cycle is thought to have been in a relatively steady state for thousands of years until the industrial revolution. Then, humans perturbed the carbon cycle by clearing forests and burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas), which increased the CO2 content of the atmosphere. To understand the Carbon Cycle & its impact on our atmosphere please refer to this detailed paper available at the following link :- http://www.llnl.gov/str/Duffy.html I hope this helps !! Have a wonderful Day, regards |
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Re: CO2 and Global Warming
From: frde-ga on 23 Oct 2004 11:40 PDT |
Actually a long time ago I read a letter in the Times from a Professor of Forestry (Aberdeen), in which he said that rain forests are pretty much 'jungles in a jar'. I rather suspect that there is a lot more malign water vapour (H2O = 18 per molecule rather than N2 = 28) lurking around than, say methane. Yet, I have heard somewhere (and this sounds ridiculous) that the largest source of UK methane is from cows. CO2 is pretty heavy, and given a choice it sits at ground level, by the time solar radiation has got through (? thousand) miles, why should it get interested in a few inches of 'foliage'. BTW: Atomic weights are from a seriously raddled memory. |
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Re: CO2 and Global Warming
From: guzzi-ga on 23 Oct 2004 18:49 PDT |
?authoritative? dismissals of the contribution of CO2 to the greenhouse effect are usually biased by agenda. Though CO2 is indeed quite heavy (for a simple gas), diffusion ensures pretty even distribution within the atmosphere. The point about CO2 is that it is very effective in trapping IR so not a lot is needed to make a sizeable impact. In extremes, you end up with Venus. Best |
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Re: CO2 and Global Warming
From: frde-ga on 24 Oct 2004 05:16 PDT |
I read recently, from what seemed like an authoritative source, whose name I inconveniently cannot remember, that the real problem is water vapour - and anyway what we take as global warming is just cyclical. - we are only 13,000 years out of the last Ice Age - and reliable statistics go back say 400 years I'm also not sure about the dispersement of C02, I have memories of school experiments pouring it from jar to jar. |
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Re: CO2 and Global Warming
From: guzzi-ga on 24 Oct 2004 18:37 PDT |
Dear frde-ga, mostly right, but..... Water vapour is implicated in global warming but that?s largely chicken and egg. Rapid global warming / cooling is cyclic but the present rate appears to exceed ?natural? rates. Reliable (reasonably) statistics of global temperature go back tens of millions of years. CO2 can indeed be poured, but leave the jar open for a few hours and it will diffuse out. Best |
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