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Origin of a famous saying
Category: Arts and Entertainment Asked by: jmphilly-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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31 Oct 2004 07:48 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2004 07:48 PST Question ID: 422534 |
Who said "The only constant is change itself"? |
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Re: Origin of a famous saying
Answered By: markj-ga on 01 Nov 2004 10:13 PST |
jmphilly -- Thanks very much for clarification. I am glad that I was able to find what you were looking for. In order to make the answer "official," I have simply reposted the information below. My search strategy was to check my Bartlett's Familiar Quotations first, and I found the Heraclitus quote through the book's keyword index (I used the word "change"). I then conducted various Google searches to gather more information about the quote and its source, as well as to seek out and research variations on the language you cited to see if there were other good possibilities for the sourced quote you are looking for. In this process, I was able to assure myself that the information I had found was accurate and complete, and that the Heraclitus quote was the only sourced expression that expressed the meaning of your language exactly (or even reasonably closely). If anything remains unclear, please ask for clarification before rating the answer. How here, for the record, is a reposting of the answer: The closest I have been able to come is, "There is nothing permanent except change," which is consistently attributed to the Greeek philospher Heraclatus. There apparently is no primary written source, but a few online sources say that it was quoted by Diogenes in his "Lives of the Philosophers.: For example: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/6517/454.htm And here is a link to a forum exchange (only available as a Google-cached page)on the very subject of your question and provides some sourced variations on the theme of the quote: http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:q6H5Ygbe5UQJ:www.famous-quotations.com/forum/forum_posts.asp%3FTID%3D62%26PN%3D1%26get%3Dlast+%22nothing+permanent+except+change%22+heraclitus+diogenes&hl=en My 1955 edition of Bartlett's Familiar Quotations cites "Rogers: Student's History of Philosophy" as its source for the quotation from Heraclitus, which is not inconsistent with the Diogenes attribution because Rogers certainly didn't get it from Heraclitus himself. markj-ga |
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Re: Origin of a famous saying
From: markj-ga on 31 Oct 2004 08:42 PST |
jmphilly -- The closest I have been able to come is, "There is nothing permanent except change," which is consistently attributed to the Greeek philospher Heraclatus. There apparently is no primary written source, but a few online sources say that it was quoted by Diogenes in his "Lives of the Philosophers.: For example: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/6517/454.htm And here is a link to a forum exchange (only available as a Google-cached page)on the very subject of your question and provides some sourced variations on the theme of the quote: http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:q6H5Ygbe5UQJ:www.famous-quotations.com/forum/forum_posts.asp%3FTID%3D62%26PN%3D1%26get%3Dlast+%22nothing+permanent+except+change%22+heraclitus+diogenes&hl=en My 1955 edition of Bartlett's Familiar Quotations cites "Rogers: Student's History of Philosophy" as its source for the quotation from Heraclitus, which is not inconsistent with the Diogenes attribution because Rogers certainly didn't get it from Heraclitus himself. I have posted this a comment, not an answer, because it doesn't give a source for the wording you have provided. If the above information is fully satisfactory to you, let me know, and I will post it as an answer. markj-ga |
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Re: Origin of a famous saying
From: jmphilly-ga on 01 Nov 2004 09:20 PST |
Definitely sounds like an answer to me!! Thanks! |
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