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Y2K Effort versus Benefit
Category: Computers > Operating Systems Asked by: garym-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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02 Nov 2004 12:49 PST
Expires: 02 Dec 2004 12:49 PST Question ID: 423582 |
Was the time and money spent on Y2K preparation worth the effort? |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: pinkfreud-ga on 02 Nov 2004 12:54 PST |
Here is one viewpoint: http://www.strassmann.com/pubs/cw/y2k-ransom.shtml |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: nelson-ga on 02 Nov 2004 16:16 PST |
Perhas avoiding the collapse of civilization as we know it is not enough of a benefit? |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: silver777-ga on 03 Nov 2004 03:24 PST |
Hi Garym, What a terrific, albeit belated question. I have wondered about and discussed the same topic many times. Nelson-ga - you saw it as insurance presumably, for the unknown yet likely risk. I would tend to agree to a point .. but certainly not to the point of using "the collapse of civilization" as a term of phrase. We can still light a Y2K non-compliant fire .. as we know it, upon which to cook our kill. I see it more though as job creation from an idea. Even if Y2K compliance was an over kill of protection, imagine the "what ifs" had it been real. Hindsight is indeed a great asset, if only it could be retrospective. Y2K must have been costly to many businesses. Further to your question Garym, I would ask: How many business people were put out of business as a result? Great question, Phil |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: garym-ga on 03 Nov 2004 07:18 PST |
Phil and all, Thanks for the comments. I started thinking about all that happened and was experienced during the Y2K effort during all our preparations for the Sarbanes Oxley audit and guidelines. I realize there are many differences,however, there are a significant amount of similarities in regards to corporate focus, dollars expended, project and process management etc. I didn't want to get into the compare and contrast of Y2K versus Sarbox, but was hoping to get a level of justification for the time, money and focus spent on the Y2K effort. I have read justifications from technical, to philosophical, to spiritual, believe it or not. Gary |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: probonopublico-ga on 03 Nov 2004 08:00 PST |
Here in the UK, they really went over the top. The Government wordsmiths didn't appreciate the problem and published stuff in which they assumed that it was a computer virus! Before the event, I wrote an article in which I expressed the view that it would be a non-event, which it was. But it's always better to be safe than sorry. Who can tell? History is littered with computer failures that have carried some heavy penalties. |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: lanhamster-ga on 03 Nov 2004 15:28 PST |
Hi, As an IT professional, I see the Y2K issue as a chance to do some major "housekeeping" and sort out legacy systems written back in the 60s. For example, the backl-end systems of a major bank here in the UK was still counting money in "pounds, shilling and pence" (for those too young, or American, or both, the UK had a currency of 12 pence = 1 shilling, 20 shillings = 1 pound up until 1972). Such systems had to go, and Y2K was the opportunity. I'd like to give people a thought for the future. The UNIX clock version of he Y2K bug is in 2038. A quick search for "2038 bug" will show you what I mean. I'm still a "young" IT professional, and I'll be in my 50s when this one comes along. I know it's coming. I've even written a warning in my own software saying "This code will break on Tueday 19-Jan-2038 at 03:14:07". By that time, I'll be a grumpy old IT professional, set in my ways and berating how the youth of the day don't even know they're born, and how it was "real" programming back in "my day" and so on. I'll say I told them so. Glen |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: nelson-ga on 03 Nov 2004 18:55 PST |
It was a non-event precisely because the problem was fixed. I remember a few years BEFORE 2000, there was a news story of a supermarket whose computers crashed any time a cashier swiped a credit card that expried 2000 or after (after the problem was pinpointed, they were told to check the date first and not accept such cards). At the university where I worked, there was a report that contained graduation year that would mysteriously omit a whole range of students. It was not until much later that I realized it must have been due to Y2K. |
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Re: Y2K Effort versus Benefit
From: lynnm-ga on 08 Nov 2004 09:08 PST |
While y2k was a real threat, the actual threat was never in the "collapse of civilization" category except in the minds of people who tried to make a buck off of it and the media who kept the fires stoked. Significant consequences were mitigated by an unprecidented effort to evaluate the effects of the rollover before the event rather than after. Were problem found? Of course. Fixed, yes. Any BMD (bugs of mass destruction)? nope. Add to the cost in the article mentioned the extra clerical time spent replying to companied and govenment entities the "your prodoct or service" was fully y2k compliant. These were preliminaries to the lawuits that were sure to follow should something, anything, go wrong. I think that a lot of lawyers were put out that there was no one to sue. As an IT Director I was responsible for a development site (one of several) and configuration management around the world for a large software company. We started preparations about 18 months in advance. One benefit was that we were able to purge older equipment that was actually more expensive to mitigate than to replace. To keep us focused, we all got countdown clock that had been preset to the number of days remaining until the event. This switched to hours and then... The cuntomer service director and I were the only people in the building. It was nearly midnight and everything had rolled over without a problem. We were concentrating on some status screens that needed to roll here in California and then we could go home. BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! After we were able to breathe again we found the source... The countdown clock was really a timer with an alarm. It worked just fine too. |
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