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Philosophy David Hume
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education Asked by: anniepannie-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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02 Nov 2004 15:45 PST
Expires: 02 Dec 2004 15:45 PST Question ID: 423665 |
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Re: Philosophy David Hume
Answered By: markj-ga on 03 Nov 2004 05:56 PST |
Anniepannie ? Thanks for your clarification. At your suggestion, I have posted below my earlier comment as an answer to your question. While researching the question, I too found the excerpt I provided to be a particular lucid introduction to the interesting issue of whether one can conceive of exceptions to Hume?s fundamental ?Copy Principle.? I found it particularly interesting to learn that Hume raised the ?missing shade of blue? example himself , thus prompting every succeeding generation of philosophers and students to debate why he chose to do that and whether the ?missing shade of blue? was indeed an exception to the Principle and, if so, what that meant for the validity of the Principle itself. Before I repost the information, let me share with you the Google search terms that led me to it. I suggest that reviewing the results of this search might lead you to a fuller understanding of the debate about the issue that interests you: Hume impression idea counterexample OR ?counter example? ://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=hume+impression+idea++counterexample+OR+%22counter+example%22 Now, here?s the ?official? answer, and if anything remains unclear, please ask for clarification before rating the answer. ?The classic example (raised by Hume himself) of an idea that can be created without a preexisting corresponding impression is the so-called "missing shade of blue." Here is an excerpt from one discussion of that counter-example to Hume's so-called "Copy Principle: "Hume presents the Copy Principle as an empirical thesis. He emphasizes this point by offering, in both the Treatise and the first Enquiry, as an empirical counterexample to the principle, "one contradictory phenomenon" (T, 5-6; EHU, 20-21) -- the infamous missing shade of blue. Hume asks us to consider "a person to have enjoyed his sight for thirty years, and to have become perfectly well acquainted with colours of all kinds, excepting one particular shade of blue..."(T, 6). Then: "Let all the different shades of that colour, except that single one, be plac'd before him, descending gradually from the deepest to the lightest; ?tis plain, that he will perceive a blank, where that shade is wanting, and will be sensible, that there is a greater distance in that place betwixt the contiguous colours, than in any other. Now I ask, whether ?tis possible for him, from his own imagination, to supply this deficiency, and raise up to himself the idea of that particular shade, tho? it had never been conveyed to him by his senses? I believe there are few but will be of the opinion that he can; and this may serve as a proof, that the simple ideas are not always derived from the correspondent impressions; tho? the instance is so particular and singular, that ?tis scarce worth our observing, and does not merit that for it alone we should alter our general maxim" (T 6). "Hume's critics have objected that, in offering this counterexample, he either unwittingly destroys the generality of the Copy Principle, which he needs, given the uses to which he will put it, or else his dismissive attitude toward the counterexample reflects his disingenuous willingness to apply the Copy Principle arbitrarily, while pretending that it really possesses the generality his uses of it require." markj-ga |
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Re: Philosophy David Hume
From: markj-ga on 02 Nov 2004 16:19 PST |
anniepannie -- This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but the classic example (raised by Hume himself) of an idea that can be created without a preexisting corresponding impression is the so-called "missing shade of blue." Here is an excerpt from one discussion of that counter-example to Hume's so-called "Copy Principle: "Hume presents the Copy Principle as an empirical thesis. He emphasizes this point by offering, in both the Treatise and the first Enquiry, as an empirical counterexample to the principle, "one contradictory phenomenon" (T, 5-6; EHU, 20-21) -- the infamous missing shade of blue. Hume asks us to consider "a person to have enjoyed his sight for thirty years, and to have become perfectly well acquainted with colours of all kinds, excepting one particular shade of blue..."(T, 6). Then: "Let all the different shades of that colour, except that single one, be plac'd before him, descending gradually from the deepest to the lightest; ?tis plain, that he will perceive a blank, where that shade is wanting, and will be sensible, that there is a greater distance in that place betwixt the contiguous colours, than in any other. Now I ask, whether ?tis possible for him, from his own imagination, to supply this deficiency, and raise up to himself the idea of that particular shade, tho? it had never been conveyed to him by his senses? I believe there are few but will be of the opinion that he can; and this may serve as a proof, that the simple ideas are not always derived from the correspondent impressions; tho? the instance is so particular and singular, that ?tis scarce worth our observing, and does not merit that for it alone we should alter our general maxim" (T 6). "Hume's critics have objected that, in offering this counterexample, he either unwittingly destroys the generality of the Copy Principle, which he needs, given the uses to which he will put it, or else his dismissive attitude toward the counterexample reflects his disingenuous willingness to apply the Copy Principle arbitrarily, while pretending that it really possesses the generality his uses of it require." As noted above, this may not be what you looking for because the counter-example deals with an idea that can be formed *without* an impression, not an idea that *leads to* an impression. But, if this is what you are looking for, I would be happy to post the information as an answer, along with my search strategy. markj-ga |
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Re: Philosophy David Hume
From: markj-ga on 02 Nov 2004 16:22 PST |
Whoops. I forgot to post a link to the site where I found the above discussion. Here it is: Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: David Hume http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume/ |
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