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Subject: pc Simulated sports games
Category: Computers > Games
Asked by: goofball-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 04 Nov 2004 14:07 PST
Expires: 04 Dec 2004 14:07 PST
Question ID: 424550
I will try this question again if you can't find an answer let me
know. I am looking for a pc simulation game that came out in mid to
late 1980s,it was a college basketball simulation game called
"HOOPS",Billy Packer was involved in it again the name was "HOOPS"
college basketball simulation game.

Request for Question Clarification by bobbie7-ga on 04 Nov 2004 14:29 PST
Hi goofball!

Please take a look at the following Google Groups postings.

Jeff Sagarin wrote this game it with the help of Billy Packer 
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=37334%40cup.portal.com&rnum=1


"Hoops" is a good college basketball simulation game.  It has over 1400 teams
from 1940 to 1993.  Plus you can get an update every year.  It's a bit
expensive but most good software is expensive anyway.  It was designed by Jeff 
Sagarin, who does the USA Today computer rankings.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1993Dec17.130116.11633%40gsusgi2.gsu.edu&rnum=8

The contact information in the above postings is out of date and I
suggest that you contact Jeff Sagarin directly to inquire about
ordering the game.

Would current contact information for Jeff Sagarin be a satisfactory
answer to your question?

Thanks,
Bobbie7

Clarification of Question by goofball-ga on 04 Nov 2004 16:00 PST
Yes Bobby 7 if you could provide me some contact information for Mr.
Sagarin(perhaps a website or e-mail address I will contact him
directly .
Thanks so much
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Subject: Re: pc Simulated sports games
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 04 Nov 2004 16:28 PST
 
Hi goofball!

According to all the Google Groups postings below Jeff Sagarin is the
author of the basket ball simulation game Hoops.

Mr Sagarin's current email address is: jsagarin@attglobal.net

I obtained this information from Jeff Sagarin?s homepage.

Jeff Sagarin's Home Page
(A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page)
http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/


Jeff Sagarin's Sports Ratings 
(A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page)
http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/sports.html


Jeff Sagarin's College Basketball Ratings
(A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page)
http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm


Jeff Sagarin's power ratings index (at USA Today)
This USA Today page provides a link to Mr. Sagarin?s website.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm


About Jeff Sagarin 

?Jeff Sagarin has been providing power ratings and player ratings to
USA TODAY since 1985. A mathematics graduate of the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology and MBA from Indiana University in 1983,
Sagarin has applied his unique ranking system to college football,
college basketball, Major League Baseball, pro football, pro
basketball, pro hockey, volleyball, nascar, soccer and several other
sports.?
http://www.kiva.net/%7Ejsagarin/p2wjeff.htm


Here are a number of Google Group postings discussing this game.


Jeff Sagarin wrote this game it with the help of Billy Packer 
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=37334%40cup.portal.com&rnum=1


"Hoops" is a good college basketball simulation game.  It has over 1400 teams
from 1940 to 1993.  Plus you can get an update every year.  It's a bit
expensive but most good software is expensive anyway.  It was designed by Jeff 
Sagarin, who does the USA Today computer rankings.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1993Dec17.130116.11633%40gsusgi2.gsu.edu&rnum=8


The best pure baskeball sim I've played is "Hoops." It was developed by Jeff
Sagarin, the fellow famous for his college football and basketball
power ratings, which USA Today publishes. I'm not sure is he is still
updating the game (he was a couple of years ago) but even if you get
an old version of the game, it's great for tournament replays."

(. . .)  

"You should be able to contact Jeff through the USA Today Web site.?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=34C2C4A0.B99F41BD%40ix.netcom.com&rnum=11


?Computer ratings were devised by Jeff Sagarin, a 1970  Massachusetts
Institute of Technology mathematics graduate  and co-author of a
computer basketball game called HOOPS.?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=3294%40kepler.sw.mcc.com&rnum=5


?The best text basketball sim ever was Hoops. It still may be available from
Jeff Sagarin, its creator. Works great out of an MS-DOS window. Not exactly
user friendly setting up seasons and tournaments, but once you understand how
that works, the game is excellent. Nothing is even close. Comes in pro and
college game.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=364E834A.1F83077B%40ix.netcom.com&rnum=10


?For college basketball, there's nothing that compares to SOM's
pro game.  I currently only own HOOPS, which I got with 1400 teams!
It uses Jeff Sagarin's power ratings to rate teams.  It's great for
setting up tournaments, and letting the pc quick-play them, but is
awfully tedious to run a full season with.  There are very few
options, coaching-wise.  Also, players are rated in various
categories, but all that's accessible to the coach is a list of
ratings relative to the rest of the team.?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=34c268ec.23758228%40news.cdc.net&rnum=14


?Hoops -- a game developed by Jeff Sagarin and Billy Packer -- is the best
simulation game I know of for the IBM-PC.  It's a game that's totally based
on statistics.?   http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1992Jan22.175329.14053%40ux1.cso.uiuc.edu&rnum=17


Search strategy at Google Groups:

Hoops simulation game +basketball
http://groups.google.com/groups?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=Hoops+simulation+game+%2Bbasketball


I hope this is helpful!


Best regards,
Bobbie7
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