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Subject: Pope John II's views on GWB
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: timespacette-ga
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Posted: 06 Nov 2004 06:20 PST
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Question ID: 425260
I'm not Catholic.  But I find the following article very interesting
... (see question at end)
<WASHINGTON DC -- According to freelance journalist Wayne Madsen,
"George W Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian
beliefs and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of
many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned
about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ."  Madsen, a
Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for
Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these
concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to
confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person
prophesized in Revelations.  John Paul II has always believed the
world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and
Evil as foretold in the New Testament.  Before he became pope, Karol
Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the
greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not
think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the
Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final
confrontation between the church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel
versus the anti-Gospel."  The pope worked tirelessly to convince
leaders of nations on the UN Security Council to oppose Bush's war
resolution on Iraq. Vatican sources claim they had not seen the pope
more animated and determined since he fell ill to Parkinson's Disease.
In the end, the pope did convince the leaders of Mexico, Chile,
Cameroon and Guinea to oppose the U.S. resolution.>
Question:  This fellow Madsen seems to be very good at raising the ire
of conservative Christians everywhere.  What is his background?
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Subject: Re: Pope John II's views on GWB
From: politicalguru-ga on 06 Nov 2004 09:51 PST
 
It should be mentioned, that John II was the pope between 533 and 535
and it is quiet difficult to know what heh really thinks of George W
Bush, from his current place.

OK. Petty of me. The text says John Paul II. This text will tell you
more about Madsen, who seems to be a pretty inetesting man.
Cyber Terrorism - Wayne Madsen
<http://iml.dartmouth.edu/ists/madsen.html>
Subject: Re: Pope John II's views on GWB
From: pugwashjw-ga on 09 Nov 2004 19:41 PST
 
Hi timespacette. A definition of "AntiChrist" means against what Jesus
Christ taught and preached. His sermon on the mount is a perfect
example, and if everyone today was doing what He asked of us, we would
not be experiencing our current world crisis. Second John 7 states
"MANY deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing
[ agreeing] Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver
and the antichrist". The "Many" have been collectively termed the
antichrist, so from this can be deduced that the antichrist is just
not one person or organisation, but anyone or group or government who
goes against what Jesus taught. The moment JWB went to war he became
part of the antichrist, regardless of WHY he went to war.
First John 2;18.."Even now there have come to be many antichrists;
from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour". When
John wrote this, all the other Apostles had died and he was very old.
Also verses 19 and 22.
Subject: Re: Pope John II's views on GWB
From: pinkfreud-ga on 09 Nov 2004 19:47 PST
 
Here's some info on Wayne Madsen's background:

http://iml.dartmouth.edu/ists/madsen.html

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