I know this will be inflammatory to some, but I do not wish to engage
in a philosophical pro/con debate? I just have a simple series of
questions with which I hope someone can help.

I am interested in finding Web sites that have compiled or researchers
who gather the following information:

1.
Quotations from George Bush or his supporters that reflect similar
thinking of members of the Nazi regime.  Ideally, I am trying to find
direct quotes from today that parallel quotes from Nazi Germany.

2.
Quotations from George Bush or his supporters that directly refute
Biblical passages or edicts, particularly statements from Jesus
Christ. Ideally, I would like to see the Biblical passages that are
being contradicted.

3.
Quotations from George Bush or his supporters that directly refute the
U.S. Constitution or famous statements made by America?s founders.
Ideally, I would like to see the political statements/passages that
are being contradicted.

Thank you.

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 09 Nov 2004 19:06 PST

Actually I recommend you break your request down and post three
seperate questions seeking information about each topic exclusively.
Some items may be more reasonably found than others. For example, I
don't know of any "collections" of quotes on a given web site related
to the topic specifically, but I do believe I may be able to provide
some very similar examples related to item number one in your question
that I think you will find quite interesting indeed.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Clarification of Question by rchtrstv-ga on 10 Nov 2004 06:52 PST

Breaking it down sounds good; I will do so later today.  Thanks!

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 10 Nov 2004 07:31 PST

I look forward to it, particularly where your first question is concerned.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 10 Nov 2004 08:13 PST

You might want to have a look at a recent NY Times magazine article
called "Without a Doubt" which is available at their website (after
registering) at:


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1100235600&en=8170614efd67c0bb&ei=5070&oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=


Without a Doubt
By RON SUSKIND

October 17, 2004



Among the intriguing quotes that can be found there -- you'll have to
be the judge as to whether they fall into any of your categories or
not -- are these plums:


''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close
to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of
weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.''

''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the
Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all.
They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark
vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . .

''He truly believes he's on a mission from God. Absolute faith like
that overwhelms a need for analysis. The whole thing about faith is to
believe things for which there is no empirical evidence.''


''In meetings, I'd ask if there were any facts to support our case.
And for that, I was accused of disloyalty!''

''Sometimes a show of force by one side can really clarify things.'' 


''Going into this period, I was praying for strength to do the Lord's
will. . . . I'm surely not going to justify the war based upon God.
Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray to be as good a
messenger of his will as possible.''

''I trust God speaks through me.'' 

''I believe he's an instrument of God, but I have to be careful about
what I say, you know, in public.''

''I'm going to be real positive, while I keep my foot on John Kerry's throat,'' 

''You know, I'm sitting there with Schröder one day with Colin and
Condi. And I'm thinking: What's Schröder thinking?! He's sitting here
with two blacks and one's a woman.''


...and everyone's favorite:

 ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. 



Let me know what you think of these...

pafalafa-ga

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1) Parallels between George W. Bush's administration and Nazi Germany


This first website provides a side by side comparison of the Bush
administration and Nazi Germany from the perspective of the writer.

The Nazification of America
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the_nazification_of_america.html

"Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Adolf Hitler
Chancellor even though the Nazis were only a small minority in the
German government. Bush is foisted on the American public through a
coup d'etat of the Supreme Court after massive election fraud
perpetrated by his brother in Florida."

This article argues that there are parallels between the Nazi
Holocaust and current events in the United States.

Hidden Holocaust, USA
From Dirty Truths by Michael Parenti
http://www.michaelparenti.org/HiddenHolocaust.html

Bush/Hitler Links
http://falloutshelternews.com/BushHitlerLinks.html


The following articles describe events that can be compared to those
under Nazi Germany:

Red Alert
http://www.prisonplanet.com/red_alert_means_you_will_be_a_prisoner.html

"I talked to the parents of two different children who are attending
school in Milbourne, Arkansas. For the last week their children have
been put through what can only be described as brainwashing more
severe than the conditioning undergone by Hitler youth.

The children in the Milbourne Elementary School have been denied
breakfast and lunch while being forced to watch terrifying video of
terrorist attacks and archived battle footage."

Camps For Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
LA Times August 2002
http://www.prisonplanet.com/camps_for_citizens.html

"Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S.
citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely
being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace."

Federal Camps For You and Your Family: Pr. George's Questions Detention Center Plan
Washington Post 
http://www.prisonplanet.com/291103federalcamps.html

Several companies have expressed interest in the project, including
two based in Florida, Wackenhut Corrections Corp. and Correctional
Services Corp., and Tennessee-based Corrections Corporation of
America. Three sites have been suggested in Prince George's and one in
Baltimore County.

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US
Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.prisonplanet.com/foundations_are_in_place_for_martial_law_in_the_us.html

"Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national
security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see
internment camps and martial law in the United States."

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US
Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.prisonplanet.com/foundations_are_in_place_for_martial_law_in_the_us.html

"Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national
security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see
internment camps and martial law in the United States."

'Hitler' Exec Producer Fired Over Remarks
Zap 2 It Apr 10, 2003
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hitler_exec_producer_fired_over_remarks.html

"The executive producer of a CBS miniseries about Adolf Hitler's rise
to power has been fired after giving an interview in which he compared
the current mood of Americans to that of the Germans who helped Hitler
rise to power."

"It basically boils down to an entire nation gripped by fear, who
ultimately chose to give up their civil rights and plunged the whole
nation into war," Gernon said in the interview. "I can't think of a
better time to examine this history than now."

Neo-CIA - Possible CIA Head Advocates Cracking Down on American Citizens 
Newsweek
August 12, 2004
http://thepoliblog.blogspot.com/2004/08/neo-cia-possible-cia-head-advocates.html

"Rep. Porter Goss, President Bush's nominee to head the CIA, recently
introduced legislation that would give the president new authority to
direct CIA agents to conduct law-enforcement operations inside the
United States?including arresting American citizens."

Response:

Bush Is Not A Nazi, So Stop Saying That
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1051.htm


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2) Bush as a Christian

Pafalafa-ga provided some of the best quotations from Bush regarding
religion above. I will add some more information below.

ABC News: Bush on Religion and God
President Says He Believes Muslims and Christians Pray to Same God
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=193746&page=1

BBC NEWS | Americas | Bush puts God on his side
http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2921345.stm

George W. Bush and Religion
Mr. George W Bush is an enemy of the Freedom of Religion
http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Bush/bush19.html

An American Apology for Bush's Religion
http://www.thefourreasons.org/Lower/ApologyBush.htm

Bush Weds Religion, Politics to Form World View
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0824-11.htm 

Bush Exploits Religion for Political Goals
http://www.atheism.about.com/b/a/117278.htm

Bush and Religion: Anti Christian, Polarizing and Ugly
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/6/19363/2003

Deconstructing Bush?s Religion
http://www.idly.org/2004/04/10/deconstructing-bushs-religion

The Iraq Journalism Project- Religion Beat
http://www.courses.washington.edu/ com361/Iraq/religion/faith_war.html


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3) Bush in contrast with the "founding fathers" of the United States

Some notable quotations:

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. The People are the
only sure reliance for the preservation of liberty.
-- Thomas Jefferson

?Loyalty is the realization that America was born of revolt,
flourished in dissent, became great through experimentation. Our
tradition is one of protest and revolt, and it is stultifying to
celebrate the rebels of the past while we silence the rebels of the
present.?
---Henry Steele, Historian

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand
by the president or any other public official."

?To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but it is morally treasonable to the American
public.?
--President Theodore Roosevelt (both)

?It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.?
--Thomas Paine

?My country right or wrong, when right to keep right, when wrong to make right.?
--Carl Schulz

?My country, always. My government when it deserves it.?
--Mark Twain

?War is a racket? conducted for the benefit of the very few at the
expense of the very many?of course it isn?t put that crudely in war
time. It is dressed into speeches about patriotism, love of country,
and ?we must all put our shoulders to the wheel,? but the profits jump
and leap and skyrocket and are safely pocketed.?
--Marine Corps General Smedley Butler

"America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
well-wisher of the freedom and independence of all. She is the
champion and vindicator only of her own."
--John Quincy Adams

"No, I know all the war rhetoric, but it's all aimed at achieving peace." 
--George W. Bush

"It's a different kind of war because we're fighting people who are --
they send youngsters to their suicidal deaths and they try to find a
dark cave. They're kind of lurching around in the dark corners of some
cities around the world. They're in over 60 countries. And slowly but
surely, we're dismantling the terrorist network, which hates us
because of what we love. See, they hate the fact that we love freedom.
They can't stand the fact that in this country people can worship the
almighty God any way he or she sees fit."
--George W. Bush

"The other day, as you noticed, there was a fellow hiding in the dark
caves -- or dark corners, not caves, it was in the city, dark -- dark
corners of a city in Pakistan. He was going to be the 20th hijacker,
bin al-Shibh. He wanted to come here to kill. He didn't make it,
because we fortunately did not give him access."
--George W. Bush

"This is a man who continues to murder his own people, a man who has
gassed -- used gas on his own citizens, a man who has used chemical
weapons on his neighbors, a man who has invaded two countries, a man
which hates -- who hates America, a man who loves to link up with al
Qaeda, a man who is a true threat to America, to Israel, to anybody in
the neighborhood."
--George W. Bush

Potential violations of the statements and beliefs of America's founders:


Constitution Watch: The Patriot Act and its Threat to Civil Liberties  
http://thepoliblog.blogspot.com/2004/08/constitution-watch-patriot-act-and-its.html

New Free Speech Zones Mock First Amendment
American Free Press - 01/31/04
http://www.prisonplanet.com/310104freespeechzones.html

?As far as I?m concerned, the whole country is a free speech zone. If
the Bush administration has its way, anyone who criticizes them will
be out of sight and out of mind.?

The Once and Former Rule of Law Could Ashcroft Pass a Quiz on the Constitution?
http://villagevoice.com/issues/0328/hentoff.php

Is Bush the Law? Can the commander in chief 'detain' the constitution
indefinitely all by himself?
http://villagevoice.com/issues/0419/hentoff.php

'True Patriot' would restore rights
Casper Star-Tribune
http://www.prisonplanet.com/131003truepatriot.html

Quarantining dissent: How the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech
San Francisco Chronicle - 01/04/04

"When President Bush travels around the United States, the Secret
Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to
set up "free speech zones" or "protest zones," where people opposed to
Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are
quarantined."

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Google Search Strategy

Bush and NAZI
Bush and Hitler
Bush and religion
Bush and christianity
Bush and constitution
Bush and "founding fathers"
Bush and "civil liberties"

. . .a worthwhile pursuit . . .

here's one: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=425139

I wouldn't mind providing plenty of quotes that would fit with no. 3
or 2, but no. 1 just makes me want to puke. You can draw everything
from everything, it doesn't make you more than a demagogue of the
worst kind.

I alerady told one of my friends here, when she complained on the
unfair treatment of anti-war demonstrators in the States and compared
it to the 1930s, that she has no idea what she's talking about. These
kind of comparisons only serve the opposite purpose and present those
who use such foul comparisons as people ignorant of history and as
demagogues.

Timespacette's quote says something about polticians in general (using
symbols and similar rhetorics everywhere), and about the establishment
of a dictatorship.

Hitler was also a vegetarian and a dog-lover. Should we compare all
vegetarian dog-lovers to Hitler?

Thanks for the comments; again, I don't want to offend anyone, but I
don't want us to get engaged in philosophical debates.  What I seek --
from the most objective and dispassionate standpoint -- are statements
that parallel what was said in Nazi Germany and statements that refute
the Bible and the Constition, et al. Thanks again, folks.

politicalguru - Where did rchtrstv as for opinion? I think you are
making assumptions about rchtrstv?s intent when you shouldn?t be. Sure
Bush is no Hitler today, but then again Hitler was no Hitler in 1931.
Jump off the moral pedestal, and either assist or don?t.

By-the-way rchtrstv, a great expose on the Bush administration?s view
of the world can be found here http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/ .
I have the DVD, very educational, 4 stars, make Fahrenheit 9/11 look
like a cartoon.

ditto on Hijacking Catastrophe; the other source to look at is:
http://www.interlinkbooks.com/BooksN/New_Pearl_Harbor.html

'demagogue'  -  "A leader who obtains power by means of impassioned
appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace."     Throwing
this term around in this political climate is like the pot calling the
kettle black . . .

I'm sorry, rchtrstv, I wish I had the time and resources to find what
you are looking for (which can't be too hard); I hope some official GA
researcher has the huevos to do this . . . will stay tuned.

Here's another that's along similar lines:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=235519

I'm sure comments can be found that sort of kinda say what you have
requested, but John Kerry, Hilary Clinton, Al Gore and many other
public figures can be similarly accused, so it does not prove much
other than The Nazis said a lot of stuff, Jesus/The Bible said a lot
of stuff, and a lot of inferences have been drawn from the USA
Constition by numerous people.   Neil

In one of my seminars in film studies, I have observed fascist
representations of the US as seen in Paul Verhoeven's "Starship
Troopers". It's not what you have asked for, but I believe "Starship
Troopers" deals with similar subjects as your question does.

You may already have the following since it's readily available
through Yahoo message boards and through Google searches but here are
two speeches from 1) Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels
(delivered to the German people about 65 years ago) and 2) Hermann
Goerring during his trial at Nuremberg.

The parallels are clear, both in terms of the actual discourse, and in
terms of policies. The following doesn't include quotes from
Bush/Cheney but those are a dime a dozen these days and shouldn't be
hard to find.

1) "I ask, which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower, and
yes, the backbone to best protect us?
The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you
tonight.
There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust our future and that
man's name is Adolph Hitler.
There are some crazy men who would kill us if they could. So Adolph Hitler
has told us: 'All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense
repealed by an overriding public danger.'

But where is the national unity in this country when we need it most?
Now, while young Germans are dying in the mud in Czechoslovakia and the
mountains of Poland, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because
of the Social Democrats manic obsession to bring down our Fuhrer.

What has happened to the nation I've spent my life working in?
I can remember when Social Democrats believed that it was the duty of
Germany to fight for freedom over tyranny.
Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Germans worked
together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's
Social Democratic leaders see Germany as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes me madder than someone calling German troops occupiers
rather than liberators.
Tell that to the Czechs, Poles, Frenchmen, and Belgians who have been freed
because Adolph Hitler led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the millions of men, women, and children who are free today
from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to the Balkans, because Adolph
Hitler built a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the
freedom and liberty of total strangers than the German soldier. And our
soldiers don't just give freedom abroad; they preserve it for us here at
home.

Right now, the world just cannot afford an indecisive Germany. Fainthearted,
self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

In this hour of danger, our Fuhrer has had the courage to stand up. And I am
proud to stand up with him.
God bless this great country and God bless Adolph Hitler."

2)"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple
matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This
is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
danger. It works the same in every country."