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Defacing US currency?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts Asked by: hickey35-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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09 Nov 2004 11:00 PST
Expires: 09 Dec 2004 11:00 PST Question ID: 426715 |
Is it Illegal to compose a sculpture out of US coins? Small holes are drilled for fabrication. What are the legal risks? |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 09 Nov 2004 11:37 PST |
Dear hickey35-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. Defacing US currency is indeed illegal. Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service: United States Code TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 17 - COINS AND CURRENCY § 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations ?Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.? FINDLAW http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/17/sections/section_333.html or http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=defaces&url=/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000333----000-.html Prior to 1994 when this law was amended, the statute read ?fined not more than $100?. This was changed in 1994 to read ?shall be fined under this title? which effectively gives the court the authority to impose a fine at its discretion. Of course the imprisonment terms mentioned in the statute speaks for itself. NOTES TITLE 18 SECTION 333 http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000333----000-notes.html This next statute concerns the defacing of currently circulated coins, either foreign or domestic: United States Code TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 17 § 331. Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=defaces&url=/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000331----000-.html ?Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened? Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.? Like the statute I previously discussed, prior to 1994 when this law was amended, the statute read ?fined not more than $2,000?. This was changed in 1994 to read ?shall be fined under this title? which effectively gives the court the authority to impose a fine at its discretion. Of course the imprisonment terms mentioned in the statute speaks for itself. NOTES TITLE 18 SECTION 331 http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000331----000-notes.html ?Do people sometimes do this and get away with it?? Sure they do. We've all seen it and yet no one seems to be swooping down on the violators to haul them off to jail. ?If this is the law spelled out before us in black and white then why doesn?t the government prosecute everyone who does it?? Your guess is as good as mine; but nevertheless, there?s the law, just as it is written and just as you asked. I hope you find that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES FDIC http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/8000-1200.html CORNELL LAW SCHOOL http://www.law.cornell.edu/ SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: ILLEGAL STATUTE LAW DEFACE DEFACING CURRENCY COINS US FEDERAL UNITED STATES CODE |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: redsnapper-ga on 18 Jan 2005 12:20 PST |
But ... but ... but ... We've all seen coin-operated souvenir machines at places like the zoo, and Disneyland, and Six Flags, etc., whose sole purpose is to deface coins! I vaguely recall seeing some sort of notice on some of them having to do with the legality of their function, but don't even recall whether it says that there is some legal exception that they operate within, or whether their isn't (i.e. "caveat defacer"). But what I don't quite get is if it is unconditionally illegal to deface coins, how does some company manage to get away with such blatant violations? So my question is, basically, aren't there exceptions under the law that you didn't uncover in your original response? |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: markj-ga on 18 Jan 2005 13:55 PST |
redsnapper -- The key word in the statutory provision regarding defacing coins is "fraudulently." Here's just one relevant link: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcoin.html markj-ga |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: leskowitz-ga on 18 Jan 2005 13:56 PST |
I looked into this as well in the past, I wanted to press quarters for fun. Here is what the penny press machine makers stance is on the issue: "IT'S LEGAL! U.S. Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331: Prohibits among other things, fraudulent alteration and mutilation of coins. This statue does not, however, prohibit the mutilation of coins if done without fraudulent intent if the mutilated coins are not used fraudulently." Basically, if you are not using it fraudulently then you can alter the coin. |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: redsnapper-ga on 18 Jan 2005 15:47 PST |
Someone just pointed me to the web site: http://www.carterstore.com/creativecuttings.htm This guy claims the following: "**Legal Information: It is against the Law to deface US Currency that is in circulation. It is not illegal to cut and enhance currency that has been removed from circulation, such as these used for Jewelry, Money Clips and Belt Buckles, So you need not worry about the Law." Sounds to me like he's taken it upon himself to "remove the coins from circulation," by turning it into jewelry. In other words, he's saying, "If it's out of circulation, I can turn it into jewelry. If I turn it into jewelry, it's out of circulation." This is what's known in the art as "circular reasoning." If the law is indeed written to make it illegal to deface coin that's in circulation, there's a reason. (Based on the law quoted in the Google answer, if that's indeed the whole story, it clearly says that any currency which represents a debt to the monetary system is what's covered.) Here's what I think is behind the law: until the monetary system itself chooses to remove coin or currency from circulation, it still represents a debt to said system. If somebody else (e.g. Larry at Knots Berry Farm) removes it from circulation (e.g. by turning it into jewelry), unless they send a detailed accounting to the Fed of how much money they've removed, then the Fed doesn't know that its outstanding debt has been reduced. So my take is that Knots Berry Larry, and all those souvenir coin machines, are strictly illegal. A collegue of mine says the US Treasury web site states simply that they choose to turn a blind eye to the practice -- my guess is because they know that a small percentage of coin and currency gets unaccountably lost from circulation all the time anyway (like the stuff we didn't find on the street at lunch, and the dollars that get washed into oblivion and/or swallowed by clothes dryers), and the amount that's turned into jewelry or other works of art is still noise on top of the already unaccounted losses. But if we all started turning 50% of our loose change into jewelry, I'll bet the Treasury Dept. would quickly start throwing people in jail until the practice ceased. |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: floridastate-ga on 14 Mar 2005 11:02 PST |
More Buts on currency....... We have all seen magic tricks performed with coins. In which many of these have been defaced. |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: toff-ga on 25 Jun 2005 09:54 PDT |
I fail to see much of a difference between taking, for example, quarters out of currency because they've been soldered together to make a jewelry box (I have seen such a thing) and taking quarters out of currency to place in a collector's book. I suppose it would be easier to put the latter back into usage, although coins that have been taken out of currency for their collectibility in fact may never be used for their intended purpose again. A quarter (or whatever) might become worth more than its face value. It would be interesting to know the legislative history and intent of the sections of the US Code dealing with this matter. |
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Re: Defacing US currency?
From: moneybroker-ga on 23 Jul 2005 17:45 PDT |
Let me throw another twist to your original question... Aside from drilling, or otherwise defacing US currency, can one use US currency to advertise legally. I have for some time used very small post-it style stickers to advertise my business. I usually place them on 20, 50 and 100 bills. The stickers come off without damaging the bill, so I am not defacing the bill. It is not my intent to render the bill unusable either. To the contrary, I want the bill, with my sticker, circulated as much as possible. I have received many great business leads from this method and would hate to learn that it's illegal. Let me know. |
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