I am searching for a charismatic person who feels they have been led
by God to begin a new church.  I am searching for a group that has
been around for less than 20 years, that has less than 75 followers
and preferably, lives in their own community. (I hesitate to commune,
but I am most interested in groups that live communally.)

I am not interested in any groups that have already been disbanded.  I
am searching for groups that currently function and are, possibly,
marginalized by the greater community.  I am not concerned about a
particular religious affiliation.  However, the leader ? or his/her
followers- should believe that their groups maintains a specific
relationship with God, which is why they stay in this group.

I am not interested in groups outside the U.S. or Canada.

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Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 15 Nov 2004 06:10 PST

Dear Curious George, 

I have found three charismatic groups that might answer the profile,
being founded after 1984, and having few (but with two of them more
than 75: 78 and 100-400) members. However, they have almost no web
presence and I was unable in one case even to locate a website of the
group (which doesn't mean it ceased to exist, but could mean that).

(1) Would you like information about these three groups? 
(2) Would you be satisfied with information *about* them but without a
link to an official site, in lieu of such?

Why ?

There was David Kuresh of Waco Texas who founded the Branch Dividian
Church an off shoot of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Likely
founded a bit before 1984 and more than 75 members at the time of the
seige, perhaps more than 75 living in the commune. The people of Waco
have since helped the organization build a Church with attendence
recently likely less than 75. It is possible that they have resumed
communal living on a small scale.
 The excessive force used, makes it possible that they were in touch
with God, but I know of no other evidence that they were anything but
a cult. They may have a new charismatic leader.
 I believe some of the poligamous offshoots of the Mormon Church have
fewer than 75 members, some of whom live more or less as a commune. My
guess is a charismatic leader is esential to prevent these groups from
scattering. I think it would be a big adventure to live in a commune
for a while.  Neil

This guy has been  around for more than 20 years,but meets all the
other criteria http://www.alamoministries.com/(especially
marginalization)

http://www.alamoministries.com

for FRDE. My comment on this subject has apparently upset the
management and has been removed, which is their right. Comes with the
territory. However dear FDRE, your abuse is allowed. Quoting
scriptures that can be verified from other translations of the Bible ,
as to what God requires, can be upsetting for those who know they are
not complying. Who is complying with Matthew 24;14? I am looking
forward to more comments.

Pugwash,

I rather think that one of my comments was also pulled.

Hopefully you read it, because it contained valid advice.

As far as I am concerned, you are welcome to your views, however I
rather object to having a rational discussion turned into a torrent of
polemic.
Isaac Newton did not have the last word on physics, and the
scribblings of a bunch of ill educated provincial malcontents are, to
me, anything but the last word in ethics.

Try this . . .

http://www.humuh.org/index.shtml

I must add, I am not recommending anyone becoming involved in this . . .

just to be clear

ts

Looks a bit like Maria Von Trapp goes Bhuddist

Also like she had a ruck with her web designer shortly after: 
    Temple Grounds (updated 5-12-04) 

I wonder whether the wig is synthetic.

A nice bit of digging.

Thanks to all who provided links and leads for this question.  Your
thoughtful comments that directly addressed my question are much
appreciated.  Pugwashjw - ga, kindly refrain from posting anymore
comments regarding my question.  Thank you.

dear curiousgeorge
(what a nice handle!)
I'm not allowing myself to refrain from going back to frde's first question: why?
can you give us a clue?

just curious, george

ts

O.K.