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why doesn't every coal miner carry a radio communicator in case of accident?
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events Asked by: mikeginnyc-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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02 Jan 2006 18:59 PST
Expires: 01 Feb 2006 18:59 PST Question ID: 428256 |
in the news just now is a group of coal miners who got trapped underground after an explosion ... and the newscaster said they had no form of communication, and therefore rescuers had no idea where they are. has no one ever thought of giving EVERY miner a workable communications device so he/she could communicate signals in the event of emergency? to me, it seems so obvious ... i'm assuming i'm missing something. would appreciate info on this. thanks! mike |
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Re: why doesn't every coal miner carry a radio communicator in case of accident?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 03 Jan 2006 11:16 PST Rated: |
Dear mikeginnyc-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. I?m with you in that the suggestion seems obvious but there are apparently some prohibitive issues, not the least of which is cost and technology. In Australia, for example, miners are more commonly being outfitted with Personal Pager Receiver (PED) devices that allow them to communicate individually in the event of a disaster. This device also allows an external GPS device to track them by way of an encoded ?tag?. Xstrata's Newland North Coal Mine to install PED and TRACKER http://www.mining-technology.com/contractors/communications/mine/press2.html MINING TECHNOLOGY http://www.mining-technology.com/contractors/communications/mine/ Simply put, in the United States however, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA), the US Department of Labor and other regulatory agencies do not mandate this practice (for whatever reason) and so it appears at least that some mines either choose not to or find the technology cost prohibitive. The PED has been approved for use in US mines but has not been mandated: Mine Safety and Health Administration http://www.msha.gov/techsupp/acc/lists/23teleph.pdf Your question poses a certain challenge to legislators (read: ?no brainer?) that might be worth pursuing. Presumably if unions and lobbyists for the mining industry (which are quite strong) were interested enough in changing the law so that each miner issues a communication or tracking device, the situation might be different. Apparently they are not as interested in this subject as the rest of us because there has not been, as yet, such an organized movement. I hope you find that my answer exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR MINE SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION http://www.msha.gov/ SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: Mines Receiver Communication Device Personal PED Mandate Law Regulations |
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Re: why doesn't every coal miner carry a radio communicator in case of accident?
From: boppob-ga on 02 Jan 2006 21:55 PST |
Sounds like a good idea. Two issues come to mind. First, radio transmissions don't travel well through earth and sea. The U.S. navy uses extraordinary technology to deal with this. Second, the mining industry often uses explosives with wired detonators. They do not permit use of any radio transmitters near the blast area since radio transmitters could detonate the expolsives. |
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Re: why doesn't every coal miner carry a radio communicator in case of accident?
From: canadianhelper-ga on 03 Jan 2006 10:45 PST |
There are such devices for RECIEVING messages in an emergency but the amount of power required to push the signal at low frequency through 100s of metres of rock makes them impractical for 2 way communications... Learn more about one company's solution here: http://www.minesite.com.au/category/category.asp?categoryid=1&childid=9 |
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