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Subject: am I being hacked? uncontrolled eratic mouse clicks
Category: Computers > Security
Asked by: maximilian1703-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 14 Nov 2004 03:29 PST
Expires: 14 Dec 2004 03:29 PST
Question ID: 428720
I have a broadband connection, Netgear router with hardware firewall.
Often my mouse randomly opens and closes several applications. eg it
randomly moves around desktop clicking on icons, the start menu etc. I
have run my spyware software and nothing is found. I have disabled the
Windows xp firewall and my McAffe firewall as recomended by Netgear,
to avoid any conflicts. Am I being hacked when these events happen?
Any advice on how to prevent this problem?

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 14 Nov 2004 05:53 PST
Please perform the following scans and tell us the results:
-TrojanScan:
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/

-Trend Micro - Free online virus Scan:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp


Thank you.
livioflores-ga

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 14 Nov 2004 06:46 PST
Hi maximillian1703,

Possessed Mouse: 10 reasons:
http://www.micro2000uk.co.uk/techtips/techtips_possessed_mouse.htm

How to: Spyware, Trojan And Virus Removal
http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35407

KRC Anti-Spyware Tutorial
http://www.greyknight17.com/spyware.htm

Please let us know if any of those help.

Regards,
hummer

Clarification of Question by maximilian1703-ga on 14 Nov 2004 08:48 PST
I have fully up to date McAfee Virus checker plus Coffee Cup spyware
remover, so don't see point of trying unknown and on line services.
None of the services I have report any trojan or other virus nor any
spyware etc on pc. Still need help please. Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 14 Nov 2004 09:34 PST
Hi maximillian1703,

Did you have a look at my link "Possessed Mouse: 10 reasons"? 

In regards to the online virus scan, livioflores-ga gave you excellent
advice. HouseCall (TrendMicro) often catches things that others miss
and it wouldn't hurt to give it a try.

If nothing pans out, following one of the tutorials I sent you would
also be a good idea. Follow it step-by-step, it is important to be
very methodical.

Regards,
hummer

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 14 Nov 2004 10:39 PST
I agree with hummer, McAffe can lose things that TrendMicro don't.
Other thing that you can do is to download Active Ports, this is an
"easy to use tool for Windows NT/2000/XP that enables you to monitor
all open TCP and UDP ports on the local computer. Active Ports maps
ports to the owning application so you can watch which process has
opened which port. It also displays a local and remote IP address for
each connection and allows you to terminate the owning process. Active
Ports can help you to detect trojans and other malicious programs."
http://www.download.com/3000-2085-10062969.html?part=65960&subj=dlpage&tag=button

Install and run this program and use the Export List feature (File
menu --> Export List) and post the list to see the files connected to
the internet.

Clarification of Question by maximilian1703-ga on 14 Nov 2004 15:19 PST
Hi thanks for the further input. Please read my comments for the
moment I will get a new mouse as I could do with one, but I am not
certain that the mouse itself is the real cause, although the probelm
has come and gone before in recent months! Cheers for now Peter

Clarification of Question by maximilian1703-ga on 16 Nov 2004 07:03 PST
Managed to get Active Ports working. Here is a posting of exported
data as of now. Tried to get a list whilst mouse problem happens but
too late to capture. Will try again.

Unknown	0	192.168.0.2	2224	216.113.188.34	443	TIME_WAIT	TCP	
System	4	192.168.0.2	138			LISTEN	UDP	
System	4	192.168.0.2	137			LISTEN	UDP	
System	4	0.0.0.0	445			LISTEN	UDP	
System	4	192.168.0.2	2065	192.168.0.3	139	ESTABLISHED	TCP	
System	4	192.168.0.2	139			LISTEN	TCP	
System	4	0.0.0.0	445			LISTEN	TCP	
alg.exe	636	127.0.0.1	1027			LISTEN	TCP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
svchost.exe	804	0.0.0.0	135			LISTEN	TCP	C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
svchost.exe	876	192.168.0.2	123			LISTEN	UDP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
svchost.exe	876	127.0.0.1	1039			LISTEN	UDP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
svchost.exe	916	0.0.0.0	1026			LISTEN	UDP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
svchost.exe	980	192.168.0.2	1900			LISTEN	UDP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
svchost.exe	980	0.0.0.0	2869			LISTEN	TCP	C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
iexplore.exe	1700	127.0.0.1	2091			LISTEN	UDP	C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
iexplore.exe	1700	192.168.0.2	2253	66.102.11.99	80	ESTABLISHED	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
iexplore.exe	1700	192.168.0.2	2251	216.239.51.88	80	ESTABLISHED	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
iexplore.exe	1700	192.168.0.2	2249	216.239.51.88	80	ESTABLISHED	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
iexplore.exe	1700	192.168.0.2	2235	216.239.59.99	80	ESTABLISHED	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
CAgent.exe	2772	192.168.0.2	1128	212.44.132.21	80	CLOSE_WAIT	TCP	E:\Program
Files\ABBYY FineReader 5.0 Pro\CAgent.exe
RuLaunch.exe	2824	192.168.0.2	1061	212.0.126.134	80	CLOSE_WAIT	TCP	C:\Program
Files\McAfee\McAfee Shared Components\Instant Updater\RuLaunch.exe
IMApp.exe	2956	192.168.0.2	2264	212.227.15.149	110	ESTABLISHED	TCP	C:\PROGRA~1\INCRED~1\bin\IMApp.exe
GoogleDesktopIndex.exe	3324	192.168.0.2	2237	63.247.129.10	80	CLOSE_WAIT	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIndex.exe
GoogleDesktopIndex.exe	3324	192.168.0.2	2236	209.59.155.89	80	CLOSE_WAIT	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIndex.exe
GoogleDesktopIndex.exe	3324	127.0.0.1	4664			LISTEN	TCP	C:\Program
Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIndex.exe

Clarification of Question by maximilian1703-ga on 16 Nov 2004 14:39 PST
I have now installed a Packard Bell radio intelli-mouse. I am still
noticing some eratic movement when using the mouse but this could be
getting used to its speed etc. I have set up email alerts on my
Netgear firewall protected router which has shown several tcp attacks
via DOS from different ip addresses, but all have been blocked as
expected.  Whilst writing this I have watched my mouse pointer and it
has remained static on the desktop if I don't touch it. Hopefully the
problem is resolved, but I will keep this question live while I see
how we go. Thank you for all those that have assisted. Cheers Peter

Clarification of Question by maximilian1703-ga on 18 Nov 2004 12:00 PST
Having got my new radio mouse and using it for a day or two I still
see eratic movements but no opening or closing of applications as
before. It is still not ideal though mainly when navigating web sites
in IE the mouse does not seem to want to go where I want all the time.
It suddenly becomes difficult to point to where I want. I know this
should not be the case! Could it be more likely a problem with XP?
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Comments  
Subject: Re: am I being hacked? uncontrolled eratic mouse clicks
From: dewolfe001-ga on 14 Nov 2004 10:59 PST
 
I think it is a possessed mouse. Try either plugging your mouse into
another computer or a new mouse into your computer. I've seen this
before and it comes from a cracked wire in the mouse cable. It will
fire out random clicks and movement instructions.
Subject: Re: am I being hacked? uncontrolled eratic mouse clicks
From: maximilian1703-ga on 14 Nov 2004 15:16 PST
 
I may well opt to try a new mouse 1st. I know I had this self same
problem some months back, before installing xp service pack 2 and it
has only recently started again, with no apparent cause. I have
checked my mouse and have cleaned it regularly, so if it is faulty
(doggy wire) then it could be that I suppose. I have looked at the 10
points mentioned by hummer-ga but none seem to fit the bill. I
acknowledge the possibility that McAfee may be missing something, but
I have no other sign that a virus is present. I also tried to download
the Active Ports app, but the download failed twice and when I did get
the zip file it was corupted! I have noticed that the problem mainly
seems to happen when I am using IE plus I have Incredimail and McAfee
Spamkiller running. Could there be an issue here I don't know about?
Any further thoughts would be appreciated I will be buying a new mouse
anyway and probably an optical/radio one will see. Cheers Peter
Subject: Re: am I being hacked? uncontrolled eratic mouse clicks
From: bomanator-ga on 30 Nov 2004 10:04 PST
 
Does it only occur when you are online?
Subject: Re: am I being hacked? uncontrolled eratic mouse clicks
From: maximilian1703-ga on 30 Nov 2004 11:31 PST
 
Yes I am online all the time when I switch my PC on as I have allways on broadband.

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