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Subject: Noise In New Condo: Homeowners Association
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: bradfordt-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 03 Jan 2006 22:23 PST
Expires: 23 Jan 2006 10:18 PST
Question ID: 428818
Purchased a brand new condo in Atlanta, GA in April 2004. 

Everything was great until October 2004 when the neighbors moved in 
upstairs. Noise from footsteps, and the dropping of objects and the use of
vacuum cleaners are disturbing any enjoyment I may have from the
"peaceful confines" of my Unit. I have adjusted my walking habits to
help the neighbor below me and wrote a similar note to my upstairs
neighbors requesting that they not wear shoes for long periods of time
and to please not run in their unit, especially early in the morning.
Now it seems that they just don't care. The problem has made my
ability to study, sleep and even listen to the TV or music at a
reasonable volume, impossible. I have had a soundproofing expert come
in and assess that there seems to be a problem with construction, or
no insulation between floors.

Please believe when I say that the noise and vibrations generated by
the "normal daily activities" of my neighbors is intrusive. My condo
board will not help, even though they have sued the builder of my
condo for other construction related problems. 

The board fall back position is that if the neighbors have hardwood
floors, 90% of the floors must be covered by carpeting as per the
condo handbook.

I have been accused of being hypersensitive and am still dealing with
a toilet leak from above which existed prior to my warranty expiring.
I didn't pay 250K to live in a cheap building. I need to hire an
engineer and have talked to an
attorney. 

I have been told that the state of Georgia is a good ol' boy
network with the worst building codes in the country, for new
construction. The builders response is "We built to code".

I feel that I have been ripped off and will not let this rest. I have
written professional letters to my board, the neighbors and to the
builders, and have been met with complete indifference.

The latest news is that the builder has sold units to family and
friends within the 99 units (3 bldgs) to prevent a 100% board vote to
sue the builder in a class action suit. This info came from an
attorney who has recently resigned from our condo board.

What's next? I can't sell right now and I have a wonderful looking
Unit that is a heartache from the moment I walk across the threshold.
Help!!!

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 04 Jan 2006 10:20 PST
bradfordt...

Let me also add that, as an owner, you are entitled to a copy
of the Articles of Incorporation for the Association, as well
as a copy of the CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions).
Obtaining copies of these should be your first step.

These will tell you what written agreements have already been
created with regard to community members, as well as telling
you precisely what percentage of the members are needed to vote
for any measure, such as a lawsuit against the builders. A
100% vote is unheard of. A quorum of 60-70% is usually all
that's required.

It should also outline what decisions the board is entitled
to vote on, without convening the general membership, and 
what sorts of issues require the vote of the community at
large.

Knowing these things is the first step. Let me know what
you think...

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 10 Jan 2006 14:15 PST
I was wondering what impact my comments have had. I'd be
glad to post what I gave as an answer if you're satisfied
with the information. If something more is needed, just
post a Clarification about it.

A user's guide on this topic is on skermit-ga's site, here: 
http://www.christopherwu.net/google_answers/answer_guide.html#how_clarify 
 
sublime1-ga
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Subject: Re: Noise In New Condo: Homeowners Association
From: sublime1-ga on 03 Jan 2006 22:37 PST
 
bradfordt...

This previous question and answer may provide some help:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=602395

sublime1-ga
Subject: Re: Noise In New Condo: Homeowners Association
From: frde-ga on 04 Jan 2006 07:44 PST
 
I have a similar problem.

Mostly I've found that the aggravation gets worse when one does not
particularly like the people making the noise.

It is annoying when people install wood block (or simulated) flooring
against the terms of their covenants.

There are two strands:

1) Self protection
   a) Get ear plugs
   b) Get a head set for TV/Radio etc

2) Intimidation
   a) Point out that you can hear exactly what they are saying
      - that really worries people
   b) Pack a ghetto blaster against the adjoining wall/ceiling/floor
      Insulate with blankets and duvets
      Turn on full blast - preferably 'Small Faces' - 'Wouldn't it be nice ..'
      Classical music also works quite well - 1812 for example
   c) Gatecrash noisy parties

Mostly I've found that noisy neighbours that I've liked don't worry
me, but if indifferent to them - or antagonistic, then they rile me
 
That could be the problem, and the solution, my guess is that you like
the neighbours below and make an effort to not disturb them, but you
reckon that the ones above are low life cretins (probably true) and
you are getting frustrated.

Check out sub-sonics and super-sonics, I've not yet needed to resort
to those, but I know that they are unsettling
- a blast from a dog whistle (inaudible to the human ear) at 3:00 am 
- should ensure disrupted sleep.

I've had 18 years living in the same flat (condo to you) and I
actually enjoy 'breaking in' new residents.
Psychological warfare can be ... rather interesting

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