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Subject: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: cryptica-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 05 Jan 2006 20:06 PST
Expires: 04 Feb 2006 20:06 PST
Question ID: 429777
This probably isn't answerable, which is why the price is low.  But it
might open up some fun dialogue between researchers & commenters.  
Friends and I were wondering today where the scolding line, "Now,
listen here, Missy" or variations like, "Let me tell you something,
Missy," or "Not so fast, Missy," etc. -- originated.   We all say it,
but why is it always "Missy?"  We realize it's probably an off-shoot
of "Miss."  But how far back can "she" be traced?     Next month we
will tackle the origins of, "You GO, Girl."
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Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Jan 2006 20:15 PST
 
When my grandmother (a rather refined and humorless southern lady) got
peeved with me, she used to call me "little missy." "You just watch
your manners, little missy." "You better straighten up and fly right,
little missy." "Don't you be talking back to me, little missy."

I once asked her where this "little missy" thing came from, and her
response was that "little missy" is what her grandmother called her in
similar circumstances. I bet this goes back to prehistoric times, when
cavewomen were hollering at cavekids.
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: thither-ga on 05 Jan 2006 21:29 PST
 
My dictionary lists the earliest written or printed use of missy
(which the editors could discover) to be 1676.
Now, who's going to find out where that was?
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Jan 2006 06:10 PST
 
Right, here is what etymonline says:
"playful form of miss (n.), chiefly among servants, first attested 1676."

In that context, I expect that the dimunitive form was used
facetiously, playing on the employers' use of mistress when addressing
young girls and all unmarried women of their own social level; the
servants emulating their "betters'" style of speech (, manners and
dress), something that certainly occurred.

This site questions the theory a bit:
http://www.earlymodernweb.org.uk/emn/index.php/archives/2005/06/this-weeks-reading-favourite-quotes/

But this from Daniel Defoe is rather antagonistic towards servants' ambitions:
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/drama/EverybodysBusinessisNobodysBusiness/Chap1.html

And this brings that back to 17th c. France:
http://manybooks.net/titles/eichlerletext04betiq10.html

Am I getting of the subject?  Cryptica generously proposed a fun dialogue.

"Now, listen here, Missy ..."  The male equivalent phrase might be:
"Let me tell you something, young man ..."

In both cases, the form of address could be understood to infer that
the child should recognize that it is more responsible for its actions
than a younger child would be, appealing to it to be more grown-up,
the boy to think of himself as a young man.
"Baby/Sweety, don't do that," doesn't make this appeal, whereas: 
"Listen here, Missy, you stop that!" does, (Missy = "you're a big girl
now")

Now Pinky can shoot me down and swear that she never caught that message.  ;)
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: cryptica-ga on 06 Jan 2006 08:00 PST
 
Yes, the dialogue begins!  I'm liking how this is going.  Shall we add
a new wrinkle?  Is there a M.S. (Missy Scold) equivalent in other
languages?  Not the literal translation of the actual words, but what
do they say in French?  In Spanish?  I haven't gone on Babelfish to
check yet, but I suspect it won't recognize "Missy."   I hope some
fluent speakers in other languages join the topic.
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Jan 2006 15:06 PST
 
Cryptica,
I don't want to monopolize your question, but since you asked:   :)

In German, there certainly has been the equivalent:  ?Mein liebes
Fräulein, ??  ?My dear young lady, ??   ?Fräulein?, the diminutive
form of ?Frau?, used to be the form to address unmarried women, but it
has virtually been eliminated from daily use as a result of
womenlibbers' decrying that it was derogatory to insinuate that a
grown woman was anything different from a married one.  So the word
?Fräulein? is becoming rare, and maybe the usage in this context is or
has disappeared.
It used to be, that Fräulein were assumed to be virgins, so the
womenlibbers have a point  - they seldom now are.  Twenty (thirty?)
years ago, a very self-respecting spinster could take umbrage at being
addressed as ?Frau?.

For boys, the equivalents are:  ?Mein lieber Freund?,  ?my dear
friend?;  or:  ?junger Mann?, ?young man?, whereby the former is not
always be correctly understood by the youngster  - a story about a kid
who runs to his father and says proudly:  ?Mr? called me ?his dear
friend?.?

I hope someone else has something to add.
Regards, Myoarin
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: cryptica-ga on 07 Jan 2006 15:57 PST
 
It doesn't sound quite so snippy in German, does it?
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: pinkfreud-ga on 07 Jan 2006 16:03 PST
 
Cryptica,

Regarding "missy-translations," a high school friend of mine who was
raised by her French-Canadian aunt once told me that she had fond
memories of having been called on the carpet and addressed as "petite
ma'm'selle" in a very similar sense to the "little missy" that I
described earlier.

~Pink
Subject: Re: "Now, listen here, Missy. . ."
From: cryptica-ga on 10 Jan 2006 16:48 PST
 
Well, we've got German and French.  I'm surprised the question hasn't
intrigued more of our foreign correspondents.  Where are those
Icelandic researchers when you need 'em?

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