Dear carry4get-ga,
I have conducted research on these web sites and companies and these
are my findings; I must also point out the guidance show at the bottom
of this page. Once you have read the below information, you may well
take the same view as me that it would be advisable not to enter into
any business dealings with them.
First, Abertha Ellectronics.
abertha-ellectronics.tk redirects to a web site which is hosted by
offer21.com. This company supply hosting space to companies.
http://www.offer21.com/
I am unable to identify the domain name owner for
abertha-ellectronics.tk. TK domain names are issued by the Government
of Tokelau and they have a special offer at the moment of issuing
domain names for free and the holder?s details are withheld as
confidential. This facility is very useful to fraudsters.
http://www.dot.tk/
There is a distinct lack of information on this company on the
internet considering they state they have been operating for 5 years.
Apart from their own web site, there are very few other references to
them and these are very recent.
The company describes itself as Ltd. However, companies in Indonesia
have the suffix PT or Tbk.
?The main form of business organization for medium and large-scale
private enterprises in Indonesia is the limited liability company,
namely, the "Perseroan Terbatas" or "PT". If the limited liability
company is public, it is known as a "Perseroan Terbuka" or "Tbk".?
http://www.insolvencyasia.com/insolvency_law_regimes/indonesia/section_a.html
As far as I can tell, the post code matches the address. I have no
contrary information on the telephone number or name.
You will note they ask for ?Bank Wire Tranfer / TT / MoneyGram & Western Union?.
Fraudsters ask for Telegraphic Transfer or Western Union payments as
these cannot be stopped or easily traced, especially when sent to
countries such as Indonesia where corruption is rife, money laundering
regulations lax, and to mount an investigation to find any lost money
is nigh on impossible.
The site appears to be created by a template and there are several
spelling mistakes. On one page they supply what they state to be a
picture of their office. Have a look at this you will see the image
has been digitally altered. It is of a small shop with the name of the
company placed above - clearly cut and pasted. Furthermore, the signs
in the shop are all in a Germanic language. Hardly an Indonesian
establishment.
http://www.offer21.com/hp_product_detail.php?id=ellectronics&cate_ind=6718&ind=16164
Now to emarketing Australia
emarketingaustralia.bravehost.com
This is slightly different. This is a page site hosted on
Bravenet.com, a free web hosting site. As a result the domain owner
cannot be identified.
http://www.bravenet.com/
Before dealing with the contact details I should point out that the
testimonial allegedly supplied by Mr Francis Wong, Singapore, about
e-marketing is a copy of a testimonial which appears on Department of
Primary Industries and Resources, South Australia (Government web
site)
under the name of Mr Roland Wong, Pan Commercial Ltd
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/pages/showcase/ind_prof/fb4.htm:sectID=255&tempID=3
The contact information supplied is:
5 Hook Place
Wakely
NSW 2176 Australia
Tel: ++61413064030
Email: emarketingaustralia@yahoo.com.au
I found one registered company with the name EMARKETING PTY LTD on the
Australian Company regulators database but you will have to purchase
the company file to see if it is the same. I sense that it is not the
same.
http://www.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=106_464_233&juris=9&hdtext=ACN&srchsrc=1
http://www.search.asic.gov.au/gns001.html
The yahoo email address is not traceable.
The email, postal address and telephone number appears numerous times
under different company names and selling different products. None of
the other company names I can find on the company registry.
The telephone number appears to be a mobile telephone and you will see
from the below searches that it links to the email address
denmav@yahoo.com. The owner of email address has posted on numerous
web sites seeking business contacts and deals.
://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=denmav%40yahoo.com&btnG=Search&meta=
"5 Hook Place" wakeley
://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%225+Hook+Place%22++wakeley&btnG=Search&meta=
Because of the lack of transparency and information about this
?company? you may feel it is advisable not to continue with any
further business relationship.
I hope this answers your question. If it does not, or the answer is
unclear, then please ask for clarification of this research before
rating the answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as
soon as I receive it.
Thank you
answerfinder
As a postscript, here are some fraud prevention tips from a business web site.
Avoid T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), Western Union. These two wiring
payment services were conducted by banks(Telegraphic Transfer) or
credit agencies(Western Union). They are being used for so long
because of its simplicity. The main disadvantage is that the real
owner of the account cannot be identified. For example, your business
partner, who you might not have met before created a dummy account and
asked you to wire the money to this account. After you have sent the
money, he/she can run away with your money and you cannot trace your
business partner again. If your business partner insists on making
payment via these type of method, please be cautious and alert. Most
of the attempted frauds reported to us are related to Telegraphic
Transfer or Western Union. Victims usually complained about:- After a
deal has been agreed upon and the money has been sent out, the person
who received the money was disappear and the money cannot be traced.
It is very difficult to get your money back if fraud is unfortunately
happened. http://ckw19.gm11.b2bquote.com/b2bquote/b2bFraudTips.htm |
Request for Answer Clarification by
carry4get-ga
on
10 Jan 2006 13:20 PST
Dear answerfinder!
Thank you for the great research.
I'm agree with you in all points.
But I'd a last question to the emarketing Australia:
Could you explain me the Connection about the firm and the text below?
How you can conclude from the fact that it concerns the company?
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Before dealing with the contact details I should point out that the
testimonial allegedly supplied by Mr Francis Wong, Singapore, about
e-marketing is a copy of a testimonial which appears on Department of
Primary Industries and Resources, South Australia (Government web
site)
under the name of Mr Roland Wong, Pan Commercial Ltd
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/pages/showcase/ind_prof/fb4.htm:sectID=255&tempID=3
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Mr Roland Wong, Pan Commercial Ltd??
And the second point:
This guy is very active, but not only as an seller also as an buyer?!
Thank you for your time
Carry4get
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