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Subject: Tenant Facing Eviction, Lease up soon, when will she be asked to leave?
Category: Family and Home > Home
Asked by: econscience-ga
List Price: $21.00
Posted: 12 Jan 2006 07:42 PST
Expires: 11 Feb 2006 07:42 PST
Question ID: 432445
My girlfriends 50 yr old mother is in terrible financial shape. She is
at least 3 months late on her rent. The landlord calls her about once
a week asking where the rent is and yells at her but has yet to serve
any sort of evicition notice or even threaten eviction verbally. The
landlord has threatened to garnish her wages (the landlord said her
lawyer suggested that) but virtually all of her paychecks from both
her jobs go to the landlord so I'm not to concerned with that.
What I am very concerned with is the fact that her lease will be up in
the begining of February. When her lease is up does she have to
immediatley vacate on the day the lease term is over? Does the
landlord have tell the tenant that she will need to leave after the
lease is up or is it just asumed becuase obviously the lease won't be
renewed? Does my girlfriends mom have a few days after the lease is up
to leave or does she have to be out on the day the lease is up. My
worst fear is that on the day after the lease is up the landlord will
simply go to the police and have my girlfriends mom not evicted but
thrown out for trespassing before she has no legal right to be there
anymore.
In your answer to this question I also want to adress her possible
eviction too. How fast can she be evicted considering how far behind
she is on her rent? But don't just answer with eviction guidlines and
laws becuase my main concern here is her legal rights as the lease is
ending and the landlord that obviously won't renew. How quickly should
she expect to be asked to leave and how much notice does she need to
be given are really my concerns.
Of course I should also mention that she lives in Suffolk County, NY,
USA so the answer needs to be specific to that area, not just a
generalization. I'm looking for specific legal timeframes as to when a
person has to be out after a lease is up.
I have already consulted the NYS Tenants right guide and searched the
internet for hours to no avail. Please help me and her. I am paying as
much as I can for the answer. Thanks in advance!
Answer  
Subject: Re: Tenant Facing Eviction, Lease up soon, when will she be asked to leave?
Answered By: hagan-ga on 12 Jan 2006 11:06 PST
 
Hello, econscience.  Let me start by putting your mind at rest:  the
landlord CANNOT simply call the police and have her evicted
immediately upon the end of the lease.  Whatever the grounds for
eviction, whether for nonpayment of rent OR expiration of the lease,
the landlord MUST go to court and get a court order before an eviction
can take place.

The proceedings are only slightly different between a "non-payment"
eviction and an "expired lease" eviction.  The only difference is the
amount of notice the landlord has to give.  Under New York State Law,
a landlord seeking to evict a tenant for non-payment has to first give
the tenant a chance to pay, by giving her a three-day notice in
writing, stating that she has three days to pay all the rent in full
or else her tenancy will be terminated.  But if the lease has already
expired, then the landlord does not have to give that three-day
notice, and he can go directly to court.
See Real Property Proceedings Law Section 711, available at
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS

Now, if the three-day notice is given, and no payment is made, then
from there on it will be the exact same proceeding as it would be in
an "expired lease" case.  Either way, the tenancy is considered to be
terminated, and the landlord may file in court for eviction.  But he
CANNOT go directly to the sheriff.  He has to get a court order first.

To get the court order, he files a complaint and obtains a hearing
date.  That hearing date MUST be no less than FIVE DAYS from the date
of service.  This is important -- it's calculated from service, not
filing.  He can't file, get a hearing date, and then sit on the papers
and serve them the night before.  He is required to give NO LESS THAN
FIVE DAYS' notice.  (And no more than 12 days.)  Service isn't hard,
though: it's sufficient to hang it on the door and also send a copy by
mail -- so-called "nail and mail" service.
See Real Property Proceedings Law Section 735, available at
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS 

So the hearing is at least five days after service.  The hearing
itself will likely only take a day.  Then the court issues the order,
either that day or the next.  Once the sheriff has the order (called a
"warrant,") he must give seventy-two hours notice to the tenant before
enforcing it.
See Real Property Proceedings Law Section 749, available at:
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS

So between the end of the tenancy and the sheriff arriving at the
door, there is a minimum -- an ABSOLUTE minimum -- of eight days. 
That's ASSUMING the landlord moves as quickly as possible, ASSUMING
there's a hearing date and time available on the fifth day after
service.  Often there won't be.

For example, since you mention that her lease is up in the beginning
of February, let's assume that her last legal day of tenancy is
January 31st.  So on February 1st, which is a Wednesday, the landlord
goes to court and files. Let's also assume that he serves the papers
that very night.  So five days from Wednesday gives us the earliest
possible hearing date -- on Monday, February 6th.  BUT!  Suffolk
County doesn't HAVE Landlord-Tenant court on Mondays.
(http://www.courts.state.ny.us/courts/10jd/suffolk/dist/civilschedule.shtml#Landlord_ten_days)
So the earliest possible hearing date is Tuesday, and THAT'S only
available in Hauppauge.  Let's say the property is in Islip, instead. 
Then the hearing would have to be on Thursday.  (I called and
confirmed with the clerk -- the eviction action must be filed in the
district where the property is located.)  So if the property is in
Islip, the landlord would have to wait, not five days, but EIGHT days
before he can get a hearing, if he raced to the courthouse the minute
the lease expired.

Incidentally, the landlord has no right to garnish wages without a
judgment; and an action for money is not entitled to the same
expedited legal process as an action for eviction.  An action for
money takes months, at least.  Don't worry about garnishment.

For further reading:
http://www.1800roommates.com/tenant_rights/eviction.php
NY State Bar Assoc:  Rights of Landlords and Tenants
http://www.nysba.org/Template.cfm?Section=Educational_Pamphlets&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2006

Suffolk County procedures:
http://www.courts.state.ny.us/courts/10jd/suffolk/dist/landlordtenantFAQ.shtml

Another consideration, since you mention that the tenant is deep in a
financial hole, is bankruptcy.  Bankruptcy will delay an eviction. 
Evicting a person in bankruptcy used to take MONTHS.  The new
bankruptcy law has tightened that up a good bit, but you can still
create a substantial delay -- at least weeks, if not a month or two --
IF you file bankruptcy BEFORE the landlord gets a judgment.
See http://www.caltenantlaw.com/Eviction.htm#Bankruptcy%20Filing

I hope this has been helpful.  Please let me know if I can provide any
further information.  Best of luck to your girlfriend's mom.

Request for Answer Clarification by econscience-ga on 12 Jan 2006 13:49 PST
Hi Hagan,
Let me start by saying that your answer was amazing and I can't thank
you enough for being so through. She's a widow who's in really bad
shape emotionally and financially. She works 2 jobs trying to afford a
place for her and her 18 yr old kid who's clinically depressed but
working pt time. And there just having an unbelievably hard time
trying to make the incredibly expensive rent that it takes to live in
Long Island. I didn't put that in the question becuase I wasn't
looking for sympathy I just wanted an honest legal answer. So again I
thank you!
My only follow up question is that she lives in the town of Rocky
Point located in the Township of Brookhaven and if you had any town or
regional specific advice about how fast the court system is there or
even their hours of operation, like you put in about the town of Islip
and Hauppage?
Also all she has to do is file for bankruptcy to get an eviction
delayed? Does she have to meet with someone to get the bankruptcy
approved or simply file?
Thanks again!

Clarification of Answer by hagan-ga on 12 Jan 2006 14:27 PST
Hello again!  I'm glad you found my answer helpful, and I think I can
provide a little more.
For scheduling:  If you follow the link at
http://www.courts.state.ny.us/courts/10jd/suffolk/dist/civilschedule.shtml#Landlord_ten_days
it will give you the dates for each township. For Rocky
Point/Brookhaven, the Court handles landlord-tenant matters on Fridays
from 9 to 5, breaking for lunch from 1 to 2.
Landord Tenant Schedule
Ronkonkoma (Town of Islip): Thursday 
Deer Park (Town of Babylon): Wednesday
Huntington Station (Town of Huntington): Thursday 
Hauppauge (Town of Smithtown): Tuesday
Patchogue (Town of Brookhaven): Friday
As far as their workload is concerned, and whether they could handle
an eviction on the first available Friday, that really varies from
week to week, and sometimes there are settlements that free up time
unexpectedly, so it's really impossible to predict.  But the EARLIEST
POSSIBLE DATE for an eviction hearing in your case (assuming the lease
runs out on January 31) would be Friday, Feb. 10th.
And that brings up another potential delay.  Most sheriff's civil
officers work Monday through Friday, they don't work weekends.  It
would be difficult to get the hearing, the judgment, the judge's
signature, the resulting warrant, AND the sheriff's service, all
accomplished on that Friday.  More likely the warrant service would be
delayed till Monday.

As for bankruptcy:  She does not have to have it "approved," only
filed.  The filing of a bankruptcy case creates an automatic stay of
all legal proceedings against the debtor.  So let's say the landlord
files for eviction, and the hearing is all set for Friday, February
10th.  If the tenant files for bankruptcy during that time between
service of the eviction action and the hearing date, the hearing WILL
NOT GO FORWARD.  It is stayed.  (The tenant has to notify the court
and the landlord of the bankruptcy filing, but that's all.)  At that
point, the landlord has to go before the bankruptcy court and request
permission to proceed with the eviction action.
In all likelihood, the bankruptcy court WILL grant permission.  But
that will take time.

All of this can be used to negotiate with the landlord for additional
time.  Let's assume that the tenant has a place to go all lined up for
February 20th.  Or March 1st, even.  If the landlord can be convinced
that leaving the tenant alone for an extra 30 days will buy him peace,
and he won't have to go through this hassle, he will probably allow
the extra 30 days in exchange for a stipulated judgment of eviction. 
But it would likely take a signed lease agreement, or a signed letter
from whoever she's going to move in with, to convince him.

Once again, I wish you all the best of luck.  Let me know if I can
provide any further assistance.
Comments  
Subject: Re: Tenant Facing Eviction, Lease up soon, when will she be asked to leave?
From: mister4u-ga on 12 Jan 2006 07:54 PST
 
Landlord tenant law varies from place to place.Your state government
should be able to tell you more.
Subject: Re: Tenant Facing Eviction, Lease up soon, when will she be asked to leave?
From: dkellogg3-ga on 12 Jan 2006 09:40 PST
 
In my opinion, you need answers from someone with local experience in
dealing with this situation

Some gov't resources here:
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/realestate/guide_conclusion.html
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=17&id=677

Also check with: http://www.nslawservices.org/about.shtml

Your best bet would be local tenant advocacy groups, one of which
looks to be here:  http://www.adelantesc.org/adelantesc/programs.asp
see: "Housing & Tenant Counseling Services"

Good luck!
Subject: Re: Tenant Facing Eviction, Lease up soon, when will she be asked to leave?
From: myoarin-ga on 12 Jan 2006 17:36 PST
 
Hagan, WOW!

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