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Subject: Web Application Development Market
Category: Business and Money > Consulting
Asked by: mike321-ga
List Price: $33.00
Posted: 14 Jan 2006 19:27 PST
Expires: 13 Feb 2006 19:27 PST
Question ID: 433543
I am reworking my company's business plan and having a hard time
finding some market information.  My company designs and develops web
applications.  We do not build just HTML web pages, we build only full online
applications.  My questions are about the market and clients for this
sort of out sourced web application development.

I have numbered my question in order of importance (number 1 being the
most important).  Please site any references in your answer.

1	What percentage of companies will be undertaking a web application
development project (over the next year)?

3	What is the average budget for these projects?

2	What percentage are outsourced verses in-house?

6	What percentage are awarded to small contracting firms verses large
ones (large being over $50mil annual sales)?

4	Where do these companies look to select a vendor?

7	What do other web application vendors do to find potential clients?

5	What criteria do most companies use in selecting an IT vendor?
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Subject: Re: Web Application Development Market
From: curtd59-ga on 15 Jan 2006 23:37 PST
 
1	What percentage of companies will be undertaking a web application
development project (over the next year)?

Depends on market segment and on size or revenues. 100M+ almost
guarantees some work will be needed. 500M+ and they're doing quite a
bit.   Not sure that thinking in overall percentages is valuable in a
business plan. Anyone who understands the industry in the least will
think you don't understand it yourself.  The business is generally
regional.  Perhaps even local. Instead, you should list target
companies in your area, and the market segments you will go after. 
Having built three mid-size and successful consulting companies, I
have never found any data other than regional, to be valuable.

I tend to watch Compuworld, Information Week, and National Purchasing
Managers Index.  NPMI is the best indicator of future revenue
potential.

BTW: business looks good thru 2006, but there will be a very serious
recession in 2007 that will last for at least 18 months.   Make sure
you have the ability to downsize in q2 2007 without a lot of debt
service.

3	What is the average budget for these projects?

There is a good market for companies who can deliver in the < 100K
range, and 60K and lower is really a great market for small companies
in the first two to three years. There are few companies who can
handle 2M+ deals, and they are dangerous for a small company anyway.
Most PO's tend to be for 50-300K.  Larger, and the sales cycle is also
larger.

Depends on the company and the risk as well.  Large old line
bureaucracy and you can get large dollars, long sales cylces, but they
will prefer to hire orgs that work the same way.  Realistically,
organizations hire organizations who operate by similar criteria. As a
small entrepreneurial company it is best to go for departmental or
midsized business where that innovation is rewarded.  A small company
of ex-bureaucrats is better for departments and large organizations. I
usually don't work with governments because the people are of lesser
quality making achieving success harder, the outcome is often
political measured rather than by profit, the process is long and time
consuming, and the dollars are lower. On the other hand, once you're
an approved vendor it's a pretty clean revenue stream in perpetuity,
and you save a great deal on the cost of sales. You can pick
departmental enteprise in financial for example,and they are a good
but low priced business. You can pick ecommerce and if you can
actually win the work then make a good living.

Honestly though. Most companies end up being resource shops or going
to the product side, or the soft-product side.

Also depends on economy. Right now money is looser and in the west
market we are seeing 1M+ deals again.  Most deals are in the 200-400K
range. During the down period, we were happy to get anything for 60K
that we could.

Also, this market is still under pressure. The fact is that overseas
labor does not really return linear savings, communication problems
are vast, and they work best by traditional waterfall methods, which
are very slow. But that doesn't mean that a lot of large companies
aren't use it.  Most web work is marketing related, so it requires
faster turn times due to the differences in organizational planning.
IT is a very slow moving customer that is very cautious about money
these days. We do not see this as loosening any time soon. So
relationships and deep knowledge of the customer, which are hard for
overseas companies to obtain, are better guarantees of work, and being
able to do the work faster is a better influencer than is price.

4	Where do these companies look to select a vendor?

I think that you are looking at stats rather than relationships, which
is how product, not service, companies operate. The business functions
not like product sales, but by relationship sales.  The business has a
low barrier to entry, so there are an unlimited number of small
companies (we buy them all the time).  Pick something to be excellent
at other than just the technology and work with that.  The General
labor/skills pitch will put downward pressure on your pricing.

7	What do other web application vendors do to find potential clients?

Most people say that they have great sales or have some vast method,
but unless you're one of the bigger brands, really, you find whatever
relationship you can, and get to know the company well and build trust
then sell and deliver to them 100% when you get your first
opportunity.

Long time ago, starting a new company, I walked into starbucks and the
IT Dir pulled out a stack of paper a foot high and said, "so what's
different about you than any of these companies".

You are not in a business where companies are a scarce commodity, and
while every company wants to think they are different, the truth is,
that fundamentally, there is no differnce in value propositin between
consulting companies other than the knowledge you possess of how to
execute inside of the companies, and the relationships in them.  (See
work by boston consulting group, see Maister's book on consulting) 
The trick is to find a large company that you can use to get enough
work to reduce your cost of sales so that you can use the remaining
capital to slowly, over a year or more, work relathionships with other
firms. It will also help if you choose a specialty to market it should
either be a technology that you turn over every two years, or a
vertical, so that you have specific knowledge.

5	What criteria do most companies use in selecting an IT vendor?

The number one issue is the believeability and likeablity of the
person that they are talking to.  The second is the knowledge that you
have about their organizatoin.  The third is the evidence that you
have that you can execute as shown by what you say, and other customer
refernces, the third is price and the fourth is how easy it is to find
an alternative.

I cannot overstate the importance of being likeable, believeable and
having knowledge of the company.

This is different from saying how they will find you.  THey will find
you largely by asking around. Sometimes they will search on the net.
They will choose you because someone they're already using has made a
mistake recently. But realistically, they have people talking to them
daily, so you have to be interesting and likeable enough and talk to
them enough, so that when the opportunity happens, you are fresh in
their minds.

The fact is, that any customer that you find by mass market appeal,
will likely be one that is cheap, not used to using consultants, and
someone you need to educate and train.  This may be fine for years
1-2, but afterward, these people are a drain on your potential.  You
need to work with people who know what they're doing in order to make
a decent living, and to do that you need to know them, and have
something that they need, and be a pleasure to deal with.


Net of this is that you should look at your market list target
companies, and estimate what you can get out of them.  The stats on
local companies are usually available, the public ones must file, so
that their informatin is readily available. Use local economic numbers
from the local news or business or state governemtn to estimate
increases in spending.  This will more accurately represent what your
potential is, and a business plan should be for you more than for your
investors, if you have any.

Don't know how to private message you from here as I was just
exploring this stuff and wrote a bunch of notes to see if it was
helpful.  But I'd be happy to help you if I knew how to reach you. I
view this as my "giving back" to the industry.
Subject: Re: Web Application Development Market
From: mike321-ga on 16 Jan 2006 10:18 PST
 
Thanks for your comments.  I appreciate your experience and expertise.

My problem with regional market anaysis is that in the past about 40%
or the company's revenue has come from outside our region.  That being
said, regional information is probably still a good place to start (we
are located in the Washington DC metro area).

I am looking for solid reference material to help me with some level
of market analysis.  Any specific links or sources you can supply
would surely help.

Is the NPMI available online?  Is it usually found in the public
library?  I am having a hard time finding information about it online.

Your other points are all well taken.  Can you site any references for
your statement that there will be a seriod recession in 2007?

Thanks again.

Google does not allow me to add contact information to the questions
or comments, so I do not think that you can send me a private message.
Subject: Re: Web Application Development Market
From: curtd59-ga on 17 Jan 2006 00:46 PST
 
The NPMI is really the "NAPM" index. Search google for National
Association of Purchasing Managers. It comes out the first week of the
month.

Recession data is everywhere. Search Economist.com.  Their latest
issue looking into 2006 is fairly good.  The basic indicator is the
yield curve for bonds, which are generally a good measure of the
future economic trend.  The basic problem is that the govt printed
lots of money (which they've been doing since 1911), it went into the
stock market (which is why you cant find a valueable stock), it is now
in the real estate market (which is inflating prices), and because of
this, consumers are keeping the economy going. General theory is that
if you do this for a while, businesses keep investing and the economy
is restructured under less duress, but for longer, than it would if a
recession went full tilt, and the country pays for that priviledge in
future dollars (via interest rates) which are made cheaper over time
by the growth of the economy in response to all that borrowing. This
is a gamble that your businesses (you and me) can invent new ways of
doing business, and don't just give up. Again, see the economist web
site.

Sorry, I'm not a researcher, so I can't spend the time to look this
data up for you. And I'm not sure much of it is publicly available,
since it's all costly to develop. I was simply trying to give you the
advice that I don't see general statistics like this being indicative
of  how your business will do for planning purposes.

If you want to work this line of  thinking, here are some ideas:

Check the analyst sites like Gartner, Forrester for ideas. You have to
pay for reports from these folks, but they are quoteable in business
plans. My experience with Forrester has always been very good.

http://www.forrester.com/findresearch/results?Ntt=IT+spending&Ntk=MainSearch&Ntx=mode+matchallany&N=0

These are affordable. Usually just a few hundred dollars. But if
you're going to show the plan to anyone, quoting either of these
sources has more weight than others.

Gartner definitely handles the issue here, but they're very expensive.
http://www.gartner.com/it/products/research/asset_129166_2395.jsp

IDC does work as well, but it's not as useful as is the Forrester or
Gartner data on this topic. www.idc.com.

Search Information Week and Computerworld and Infoworld web sites for
articles that you can site.

Merrill Lynch does a survey of IT CIOs every year. Search for IT
SPENDING on google and find it.

The site http://www.computereconomics.com/page.cfm?name=2005%2F2006
has a great report.

If you tell me a bit more about the kind of work you do, for what kind
of companies, and the number of people in  your company I might be
able to be more helpful.  Also, whether you're trying to raise money
or trying to take a loan out, or trying to just plan what  you're
going to do next year.
Subject: Re: Web Application Development Market
From: mike321-ga on 17 Jan 2006 12:36 PST
 
Thanks again, I will follow your leads and see what I can dig up.  The
business plan is purely for planning purposes (at this point).  My
business partner and I have lost some focus.  Currently we have 2
execs who essentially do IT project management consulting.  1
salesman.  3 developers on client site, hourly.  1 developer full time
on project work.  The are 3 other developer we pick up on an hourly
basis when we need them for project work, ideally we would have enough
projects to keep them all staffed full time.  Our projects have been
web applications and the associated database back-end.  Our IT
consulting has been in web applications, client server apps, and data
warehousing.  This mix of experience and expertise (I feel) is to
broad and dis-jointed.  I feel we need to focus.

I also appreciate your recommendation to focus on a vertical.  Right
now are clients are all over the place (machine-to-machine M2M,
telecom, large gas company, healthcare, online gaming, non-profits,
online investing, etc...).  I think I will research some verticals and
see if I can't find IT spending information at that level.

We have been in business since 1999 and have been hovering around the
$1m mark for about 3 years now, something has to change.

I appreciate your input, and will spend some time following up on what
you have said.  Thanks again.

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