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Subject: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: tonyschwartz-ga
List Price: $26.78
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 14:20 PST
Expires: 25 Jan 2006 05:37 PST
Question ID: 435120
Please locate & post all answered questions on this database that deal
with the existence or non existence of YHVH(YHWH).  I am also
interested in questions that deal with connection between gods of
today and of the past('The Christ Myth').  Anything you feel that may
assist me - please include it. Post a link to each question with a
brief description.  Or better yet copy all the text.  That would get
messy though, right?  Make it look pretty. . . PLEASE
     
     *It is my intention to use Google to prove YHVH(YHWH) is a myth.*

     Please do not limit your search to these suggestions rather use
them as a start point: Intelligent Design, String Theory, Pagan, YHVH,
Jesus, Christian, Catholic, Agnostic, Atheism,
Mithra, Behe, Josephus, Tacitus, Church Fathers, creationism &
evolution.
     The perfect person to answer my question:  You know the arguments
and the leaders of the debates on both sides and you understand the
science vs religion gig.
     I apologize this is not worth a lot to me because I could do it in a
week.  I bet someone a tad more savvy could do it in 60 min, no?  I
could also see a $13.42-14.06 tip for an outstanding response.
     Just for fun I would also be interested in your personal opinion after
you cut, read & paste.  Is it truely logical to think YHVH(YHWH) is
anything more than a fraud/myth?

Clarification of Question by tonyschwartz-ga on 18 Jan 2006 14:22 PST
It is not my intention to use Google today or any time in the
immediate future to show YHVH(YHWH) is a fraud.  This is simply a
stepping stone.  I would expect I will have everything done in a few
months.

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 19 Jan 2006 03:32 PST
Tony, 

I have no problem in helping you finding all of the Google Answers
questions dealing with the existance of God (or with religion in
general), but quite frankly - this would give you nothing. Faith is
not "rational" process. Using scientific/rational methods to try to
prove something that is beyond science and rationality is impossible,
IMHO.

Clarification of Question by tonyschwartz-ga on 19 Jan 2006 04:53 PST
Take my money - please!  It is more a personal concern than public.

Clarification of Question by tonyschwartz-ga on 23 Jan 2006 04:13 PST
In response to the last few posts.  I just want someone to do their
'job' and answer my question - rather than guess my motive.  I did a
brief search with the keywords I suggested.  It's not like 200,000
posts relate to this topic.  I would venture to say 100 or less - am I
way off?  However, I know someone could do much better than I could. 
I am just trying to pay someone for my laziness.  I thought I would
have had a response a week ago.  How about $32.50?  $34.75?  I guess
proving a god does not exist using an internet search engine is very
scary and intimidating to religious people.  It is ok, I understand -
thanks.
     Is this question really more difficult than  I though?  Will I
just need to bury myself in it for 2 weeks - ugh.  Really, I
understand the internet being more powerful than god.  Oh, I am not
seeking a debate - FYI. . . .

Clarification of Question by tonyschwartz-ga on 25 Jan 2006 05:37 PST
I was hoping someone would be open to taking my money.
Answer  
There is no answer at this time.

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Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: pugwashjw65-ga on 19 Jan 2006 02:48 PST
 
YHWH=Yahweh=Jehovah=Almighty God. Where did you come
from...ORIGINALLY...Who made the flowers and the animals?: My answer
is from the Bible, Romans 1;20-25. I sincerely hope you take the time
to read it.
Romans 1;20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the
world?s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things
made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are
inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify
him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in
their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22
Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned
the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of
corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping
things.

24 Therefore God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave
them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among
them, 25 even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and
venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the
One who created, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 19 Jan 2006 08:55 PST
 
I raised the pay out by .01.  Hopefully this will generate tons more
interest, huh?  World religion is an extremely dangerous thing.  I do
not feel their is a more powerful tool than google to crush my
personal conflict with it.  This is why I felt it necessary to make
such a bold move and increase the pay rate. I will also increase the
tip on both low and high end by .01 cents.  If you have any questions
please contact me - thanks!

Spread the word - god may be going down.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: pixeldirect-ga on 19 Jan 2006 14:35 PST
 
Your real question is :

what is zero?

the answer is :

a form of 1

this is not algebra... do it with your hand. only thumb and pointing finger..

touch them together and blast them away...

That's! also the answer of all the questions in this service..and more.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: techtor-ga on 19 Jan 2006 19:47 PST
 
If you're willing to look into some books, you might want to look at
two samples about the topic:

Jumpin' Jehovah
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585091022/qid=1137728688/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2877804-0680064?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

The Jesus Mysteries
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0609807986/qid=1137728747/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2877804-0680064?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

I found these at http://www.thebooktree.com , which has other examples
of books on the same topic.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 20 Jan 2006 05:44 PST
 
Ya, ya, I know the books.  I know the stuff.  I want someone to search
google answers for me.  I guess everyone is afraid to do it.  They
understand google is more powerful than YHVH.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: techtor-ga on 20 Jan 2006 06:54 PST
 
My mistake there... I missed seeing "answered questions". I think the
issue about YHWH may have been tackled here before, but I couldn't
really remember. I have not tackled that question myself. Could take
some looking through with the 435,000 questions already posted (based
on the question number).
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 20 Jan 2006 07:05 PST
 
ya looks like I will have to do it myself.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: fractl-ga on 20 Jan 2006 11:50 PST
 
I've been in a few interesting religious debates on GA.  One of the
best, in my opinion was "the elephant in the living room that no one
talks about..." http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434964
the threads usually end up getting personal, political, comedic, and
then break down.  The problem usually boils down to a concrete
definition of God.  You can't argue something without a definition.

I would die a happy man if I'm able to disprove god.  I've realized
the closest I could come to this is prove that God and formal logic
cannot coexist (one could always choose faith over logic...the best I
can do is prove one can't have both).  If I had the time I'd help you
out...but that's one ugly search...It'd be an hour of cutting and
pasting alone, I'd bet..forget the search itself.  I'd love to see the
results, though.

If you want to use your $26.78 in the best way, I suggest starting 13
$2.00 questions geared at generating religious debate (not very tough
to do).  Since very few of those questions get answered anyway, you
would most likely only need to shell out $10.

In my opinion the comments are more interesting than the answers. 
Especially in topics like this, researchers are cautious to answer
when there is no concrete yes or no.  I wouldn't limit the results to
answered only, if I were you.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: ansel001-ga on 21 Jan 2006 01:28 PST
 
It sounds like you have already decided not to believe in God and now
want someone to do your research for you to give you a rational reason
for your prejudice.
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - Y-H exists?
From: rogerwilco-ga on 23 Jan 2006 04:24 PST
 
Hi Tony,

Just a question for you - I'm intrigued by your question, but I'm not
sure how you would go about using a search engine, of all things, to
prove whether or not Y-H exists. What information could a search
engine (or an answer here) give you, one way or the other, that would
prove the existence or nonexistence of a divine being?

Roger
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 23 Jan 2006 04:54 PST
 
How couldn't it? 

www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/29/nyt.friedman
www.google-watch.org/friedman.html 

Keywords: Google & God
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - Y-H exists?
From: rogerwilco-ga on 23 Jan 2006 06:51 PST
 
Tony, that's just a rather simpleminded comparison Thomas Friedman
picked up on -- Google has a lot of information is everywhere, God
knows a lot and is everywhere -- so Google is, in some sense, like
God. Air, too, is everywhere -- books also contain a lot of
information - so they, too, are like God. So is the carbon atom. If
you push the metaphor far enough, *anything* broad and universal
enough (democracy! the English language! human nature!) is kinda like
God. Well, yeah. But so what? God as traditionally conceived is a lot
*more* than that -- all-powerful and all-knowing, for one, which
Google sure isn't.  And even if Google had some kinda-god-like
properties, how does that say anything about the existence or
nonexistence of God, Y-H?  If you wanted to prove that potatoes don't
exist, showing that soemthing else (turnips, say) was in some sense
potato-like wouldn't do much for you either way.

Can you help me here, Tony?
Roger

(BTW, here's the quote from the Friedman article, for those following
along at home:
Says Alan Cohen, a V.P. of Airespace, a new Wi-Fi provider: "If I can
operate Google, I can find anything. And with wireless, it means I
will be able to find anything, anywhere, anytime. Which is why I say
that Google, combined with Wi-Fi, is a little bit like God. God is
wireless, God is everywhere and God sees and knows everything.
Throughout history, people connected to God without wires. Now, for
many questions in the world, you ask Google, and increasingly, you can
do it without wires, too." )
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 23 Jan 2006 07:42 PST
 
I would just like someone to answer the question.  At this point in
time I am under the assumption this will not happen.  Google is more
powerful than god.  BTW what is Y-H?
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - Y-H exists?
From: rogerwilco-ga on 23 Jan 2006 08:47 PST
 
Tony, I'm still not sure what you want someone to do -- any answer
anyone can offer you here will be human reasoning or the result of a
web search, or some combination of the two. I can't see any way in
which human reasoning and the result of a web search can say anything
about the existence of God. Do you disagree with me there? Is there a
particular kind of information that you're looking for, something that
would prove the non-existence of God and can yet be expressed in
words, human reasoning, and the results of a web search?

(And Y-H is just my way of writing the four-letter all-caps name that
you use in the title of your question - for religious reasons, I can't
write out the Name of God without an elision like that. It means YXXH
- the four-letter name you've been using all along. No big
difference.)

Roger
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: tonyschwartz-ga on 23 Jan 2006 10:38 PST
 
I retract my comment about proving a god does not exist using Google. 
As it has clearly been pointed out this is impossible.  Although I am
sure some goons still feel it is - to ah, 'hell'(?) with them!  It
would be more logical to put faith in Santa.  I am extremely
embarrassed of such a ludicrous comment being typed by my fingers - an
idle hand, "the devil made me do it!".
     Regardless, I would still PLEASE request someone seek out and
post all the answered questions on the GA database that deal with the
existence or non existence of a god and 'The Christ Myth'.  Thank you.
 Do I need to pay more for this question?
Subject: Re: Atheism, Anti-Theism, Agnostic, Gnostic, Mystery Cult - YHVH exists?
From: fractl-ga on 24 Jan 2006 12:17 PST
 
If Google is god, wouldn't your request be more like a prayer?

Is GoogleGod the type of deity to take your $26.78?

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