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Subject: Building a Wattmeter
Category: Science > Physics
Asked by: reeeky2001-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 20 Jan 2006 09:40 PST
Expires: 19 Feb 2006 09:40 PST
Question ID: 435856
Now, I'm just looking for a wattmeter, that isn't dependant on Amps,
but resistance and voltage.

I was thinking, that it would find the amps, with I=RV (R=resistance
and V=Voltage) and then finding the the watts with P=VI, from the
measured voltage and the calculated amps. BTW, this is for AC power,
variable voltage, amps, and power.

Is there a cheap solution for this (DIY, premade for >$75USD)?
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Subject: Re: Building a Wattmeter
From: kmclean-ga on 20 Jan 2006 11:02 PST
 
Since it is AC power, P=VI isn't total correct.  S (apparent power) =
IV and P=VI cos(phase angle between V and I) or P=VIPf where Pf is the
power factor and equal to the cosine of the angle between V and I.  P
is always less than S and as a general rule the are pretty close in
value.  If you are looking to ignore this difference and are not
looking for real time numbers (which I assume since you are looking to
calculate P), all you need is a digital multimeter, then measure V and
R seperatly and P~V/(R^2).  Note: measure R without power source
disconnected otherwise you would be measureing your Resistance in
parrellel with the power source's resistance thus lowering the
resistance and increasing your power by a factor of a square.

One side note:  I=V/R not RV.

I hope this helps

Kmclean, BSEE, EIT
Electrical Engineer
Subject: Re: Building a Wattmeter
From: reeeky2001-ga on 20 Jan 2006 16:17 PST
 
Well, see the problem is that I need realtime Wattage output, and in
the applications that I plan to use it in has a constant change in
voltage and resistance. So, the multimeter idea is not going to work.

And thanks for the part on I, I meant to write it as I=V/R.
Subject: Re: Building a Wattmeter
From: kmclean-ga on 20 Jan 2006 22:34 PST
 
how much power are you expecting?
Subject: Re: Building a Wattmeter
From: azdoug-ga on 30 Jan 2006 08:45 PST
 
Is your load purely resistive?  Or is it inductive/capacitive?

If it's purely resistive, your apparent power (calculated) and active
power (measured on the wattmeter) will be fairly equal.

If your load is inductive/capacitive, they'll hardly ever be equal -
I*V most likely won't equal your measured P.

If you're unsure about your load being resistive or
inductive/capacitive, if it's more like a light bulb or toaster, it's
mainly resistive.  If it's more like a drill, motor, or microwave -
it's inductive/capacitive.

kmclean - is that right?  My background is mechanical, but I'm
beginning a MS program in Electrical Engr...
Subject: Re: Building a Wattmeter
From: reeeky2001-ga on 22 Feb 2006 11:03 PST
 
Sorry about a delay in comments on my part. I live in Florida and had
to rush to Oklahoma to deal with some family issues. Now here we go.
The load is inductive I believe (I'll be using this to measure the
power going to speakers, drills, and things like that). I'm expecting
a power input that can range anywhere from 50W to 600W. Resistance
would be something like 1-7000 ohms.

Hope that answers some questions.

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