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Subject: EIN lookup and additional information - Employer Identification Number
Category: Business and Money > Consulting
Asked by: bobinflorida-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 30 Nov 2004 11:32 PST
Expires: 30 Dec 2004 11:32 PST
Question ID: 436167
If I have a company's EIN number, can I look up additional information
related to that company?  I'm trying to find information related to
EIN 71-0788726.  Any state filings and even information that can be
gleaned from the number itself would be helpful

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 30 Nov 2004 12:08 PST
Bob,

That number isn't showing up in an EIN lookup database.  Are you sure
the number is correct and current?  Is there anything more you can
tell us about the company?

Any additional information may help, here.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by bobinflorida-ga on 30 Nov 2004 12:55 PST
The EIN is correct, it is a private company called "Hot Springs Health
Partners, LLC" which is 50% owned by USAble Corporation - EIN
71-0246079.  I'm curious who owns the other 50% and any other
information that I can find.  NOTE: because they're not publicly
traded, most EIN reference resources will probably not list them.  One
more thing - the company is probably located in Arkansas and is
somehow related to a physician or provider network associated with
Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue Shield.  Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue
Shield owns USAble Corporation who in turn appears to own 50% of EIN
71-0788726 (i.e. Hot Springs Health Partners.  I suspect the physician
/ hospital ownership because I looked up a similarly situated company
and it appears to be owned by either a hospital or physician group.

The company might be listed with the Arkansas Department of Insurance or the like.

Good Luck!

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 30 Nov 2004 14:23 PST
I'm curious...why did you ask us to search on the EIN rather than the
company name?  The name is a far easier identifier to search on.

Anyway, I checked the online state records for HOT SPRINGS HEALTH
PARTNERS, LLC, and it is, indeed, registered in Arkansas.

The records list the names of the company President, Treasurer and
Secretary, but do not show any ownership information.

Would the names of the executives be of interest to you as an answer
to your question?  If not, what other sorts of information are you in
need of?

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by bobinflorida-ga on 01 Dec 2004 12:05 PST
I would really like to know the ownership of the company - it appears
to be 50% owned by either AHIM (Arkansas Health Information Network)
or USAble Corporation - it's the other 50% owner that I'm interested
in learning their identity.

At any rate, I've probably exhausted $10 worth of answer so I would
settle for the following two things: (1) the identities that you
describe in your most recent post - i.e. the officers of the
corporation; (2) most importantly - the location of the Arkansas
website where you looked up the corporate information.

Again, these two data items will satisfy my need - good work!

Thanks,

BobInFlorida

Finally, I was using the EIN number because it is the most
un-ambiguous identifier for companies - there is no confusion between
companies with similar names and most importantly, the EIN appears to
survive through name changes.
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Subject: Re: EIN lookup and additional information - Employer Identification Number
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 03 Dec 2004 17:29 PST
 
Bobinflorida-ga,

Thanks for giving me the go-ahead on this.

You can search for information about Arkansas companies at the
Secretary of State's "Business and Commercial Services" site:


http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_all.php


Searching for Hot Springs Health Partners brings up the following record:

=====
Corporation Name HOT SPRINGS HEALTH PARTNERS, LLC  
Fictitious Names N/A  
Filing # 100129142  
Filing Type Limited Liability Company  
Filed under Act Domestic LLC; 1003 of 1993  
Status Good Standing  
Principal Address 
 
Reg. Agent STEVE SPAULDING
 
Agent Address 100 GREENWOOD AVENUE
HOT SPRINGS, AR 71913  
Date Filed 02/01/1996  

Officers STEVE SPAULDING, President
VACANT, Vice-President
SAM PARTIN, Secretary
OLEN PEARSON, Treasurer
 
Foreign Name N/A  
Foreign Address 
 
State of Origin N/A  
=====


Many Secretary of State offices will make available a company's
Articles of Incorporation/Organization upon request (sometimes for
free, sometimes for a fee).

These documents often contain ownership and shareholder information of
the sort you're looking for.  I did not see instructions at the site
for making such a request, but you may want to contact their office
for additional information:


State Capitol, Rm 256
Little Rock, AR 72201
501-682-1010
General_info@sosmail.state.ar.us



I trust this information is what you needed, but let me know if
there's anything else I can do for you.  Just post a Request for
Clarification, and I'm at your service.


pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 03 Dec 2004 18:34 PST
By the way, I came across a revealing newspaper article from 1996 that
talks about part-ownership by St. Joseph's Regional and Blue Cross,
but bear in mind, the info may no longer be current:


Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (Little Rock, AR)

October 16, 1996

Blue Cross joint venture  expects to serve 21 counties


Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue Shield has signed a preliminary agreement
with eight Arkansas hospitals to form a new health-care network
serving 21 counties in and around Hot Springs, Fort Smith and
Northwest Arkansas...The proposed joint venture would create a new
Blue Cross subsidiary, half-owned by Blue Cross, the state's largest
insurer. The remaining 50 percent would be owned by Washington
Regional Medical Center -- a private nonprofit 294-bed hospital in
Fayetteville -- and St. Louis-based Sisters of Mercy Health System,
which owns seven of the eight hospitals...

Sisters of Mercy officials said the new joint venture evolved out of
Blue Cross' relationship with St. Joseph's Regional. The Hot Springs
hospital last year became a 50 percent owner in Hot Springs Health
Partners, a Blue Cross subsidiary whose operations are similar to the
larger joint venture now being discussed...

"This relationship just kind of grew from that existing partnership we
have with Blue Cross," said Barbara Meyer, a Sisters of Mercy
spokesman. "The Hot Springs partnership will be rolled into this joint
venture. That's the intention."

=======

I can't reproduce the full article, since it is copyrighted, but you
may want to have a librarian track down the full article for you,
since it contains some worthwhile additional information.

Cheers,

pafalafa-ga
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