Qestion: How can I get my web unblocked by China?
Background: I'm using Yahoo web hosting service to post my web site.
People in China cannot access my web.
Yahoo web hosting technical support's response is unacceptable.
* They insisted that there is nothing they can do about it.
* They provide no specific recommendation or help. for exmaple, ask me to
contact China.
However, by checking information from Google searchh, there seem to be
some way to get aorund it (IP proxy, keyword, etc).
My web site is about technical training. Currently it has only 2 pages
and a small demo. It does not contain any words that associated to
politics or culture context. |
Request for Question Clarification by
fons-ga
on
08 Dec 2004 05:52 PST
Hi,
I'm living in Shanghai where I work intensively on the internet. As
far as I know no Yahoo-sites are being blocked in China, although for
some services Yahoo might refrain from offering them to Chinese
customers (and gets a lot of heat for doing that).
What can I do for you?
1. When you tell me the url or IP address of your pages I can check
whether they are really blocked or whether there might be another
problem;
2. When your site is blocked, I can suggest a few methods to go
around. Most people in China know the tricks; suggesting it to your
clients only works when you have a limited number of customers that is
really motivated to watch your website.
Please let me know if that is what you are looking for.
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Clarification of Question by
ibc-ga
on
08 Dec 2004 07:18 PST
This is to respond to fons-ga response on 08 Dec 2004
1) my web site is learningocean.com.
I use Yahoo's small business hosting to post my web site. People in China
cannot acces my web site. I studied trace route issues from Shanghai. it is
blocked.
2) get around tricks
The get around trikcs will be useful.
At this time, I have no customers. The purpose of my wen site now is to
let interested people to see our eLearning demo. I use it to get feedback and
as a tool to hire people. Using a few steps to get aorund blocking is
acceptable.
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Thanks for your clarification!
Your website is indeed blocked in China, but that should not be a real
problem. Next Wednesday I'm actually teaching a free class for my
colleagues in Shanghai on new media tools and proxies is one of the
subjects. There are still a few seats open and you can suggest your
clients to join that class if they are interested.
http://www.chinaherald.net/2004/12/blogging-geek-speak-and-other-blogger.html
There are three ways to circumvent the IP-blocks.
1. You can change the settings of your browser program and point them
to an 'open' IP-address you can find at lists like this:
http://www.stayinvisible.com/index.pl/proxy_list
You do have to change them regularly and switch them off after you use
them. It takes you about 30 seconds, when you are familiar with the
system. Sometimes IP addresses do not work and you have to test new
ones.
2. Webbased proxies like
http://anonymouse.ws/anonwww.html
Here you have to fill in the url you want to see; this might take you
about ten seconds. They sometimes get blocked too and do not work
then.
3. I'm using now a software-based tool that puts some software on your
computer and picks a free IP-address automatically. It also codes and
decodes traffic so key word filters can be avoided. Two companies
provide this free tool:
Ultrareach: https://www.wujie.net/
DynaWeb: https://www1.zhonghua999.com/ https://www2.zhonghua999.com/
https://www3.zhonghua999.com/
The urls should be available in China too.
I'm using Ultrareach myself and quite happy about its performance.
Usage is quite common: when I'm surfing from a Starbucks in Shanghai
people recognize the little icon that displays in the right bottom
corner.
Please let me know if you have any additional problems.
Regards,
Fons |
Request for Answer Clarification by
ibc-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 07:48 PST
Dear Fons: The asnwers are clear.and specific. I may need a few das to
verify them belfore clos this q&a. i may have additiona questions when
verify these methods.
thank you very much.
-ib
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Clarification of Answer by
fons-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 18:00 PST
That is no problem: moving your site to a non-blocked IP address is in
the end the most solid solution, but these round-abouts can help for a
smaller number of people.
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Clarification of Answer by
fons-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 18:06 PST
In the end moving to a non-blocked IP address is the more solid
solution, but I guess you first want to see whether it is worth the
trouble.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ibc-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 20:27 PST
Dear Fons: I verified the Ultrareach method with Ms Wang in Shanghai
tonigth. it worked. Thanks.
However, there are still some problems to get through:
1) ultrareach and server speed
she found from http://www.8cx.net/ttdl/ from a friedn to try different
server ports. some did not show naviagtion buttons. some did display
buttons but when click, animation did not come up. finally, she found one
that was showing animation.
Q1: is there an easier way to find faster server? in my case, the most
important thing is to allow users to see eLearning animation to get ideas of
the course.
Q2: Can Ms wang contact you in Shanghai directly? we spent one hour on
the phone to get it working. i hope we can find a more consistent way
to have good access with reasonable speed. her email is
techgrace@vip.sina.com.
2) reach a PC in China from California
the goal is to netmeeting to her PC so i can see what's going one. however,
tracert shows that my access to her PC is blocked.
Q3: is there a way that i can ping her PC in shanghai from Californoa?
3) you mentioned that "In the end moving to a non-blocked IP address is the
more solid solution"
Q4: how can i find out a web hosting service that provide IP addressed
that are not blocked by China?
currently, I'm using Yahooo web hosting. changing web hosting service
provider is fine if i am certain that it is not blcoked by china.
thanks a lot
-ib
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Clarification of Answer by
fons-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 20:59 PST
Q1: I use the option where the software automatically finds the best
server, but then I never have to deal with blocked sites that deal
with high volume of data. You can set your own IP-address; server but
that seems so troublesome that changing to another provider might be a
better option.
Q2: Under the Google Answers regulations I cannot provide you with
contact detail, but I might drop Ms Wang an email.
Q3: I'm not an engineer myself, but you can ping only IP addresses, so
I estimate you can ping her when her PC has a designated IP address.
Q4: While nobody can give you a guarantee, best choice is to avoid the
larger providers. What happens is that when on site offers information
that is eligible for a url-block, the whole service gets blocked. That
happened to Google services, weblog hosts and also universities. For
that reason I host my weblog with a service in the US.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ibc-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 21:44 PST
It's amzaing to get your response in one hour.
my eLearning animations are smalllish files (2k, 10k, 15k files). i
think it is the serve speed, not the data size. i'll ask Ms wang to
try it again.
now i'm ready to change web hosting company. tw more questions:
Q1: can you tell me whihc U.S. company do you use to host your wenlog?
"For that reason I host my weblog with a service in the US."
Q2: what is your weblog web address?
i'd lbe interested to view your blog.
thanks
-ib
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Clarification of Answer by
fons-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 23:04 PST
No problem,
I use Ipowerweb: indeed, www.ipowerweb.com
My weblog is at www.chinaherald.net
You might find there some discussions about the proxies too
Fons
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Clarification of Answer by
fons-ga
on
09 Dec 2004 23:06 PST
Well, this is the age of the internet where distance,time and also
costs have a different dimension.
My weblog www.chinaherald.net is hosted by www.ipowerweb.com
At my weblog you will find some additional stories on url-blocks and proxies.
Fons
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